Easy: you don't catch up. Just as new players to EVE will never catch up.

Thankfully, the skill and equipment systems work beautifully to level the playing field: a two month old player can match a ten year vet IN ONE THING. The fit your bring to the fight is the only thing your skills affect, and so only those relevant skills come into play. The older player can do more things, but still only one at a time, just like you. You're on equal footing if you choose to specialize (like you should; this is a squad-based game, talk to your mates, find what you all like, and build a TEAM, not a clump of jack-of-all/master-of-nones.)

This is simply how it works, and there's nothing you can (let alone should) do to "fix" this wonderfully functional dynamic without breaking everything and making it all pointless.

Thankfully, this is an FPS, and so your SP and how fancy your gear is matters even less than it doea in EVE; YOUR skill matters far more than anything else (just ask the protofits I spank with militia gear).

Yes, unlike in EVE where a majority of your chance to hit anything stems from your in-game skills making your guns track faster and fire faster and all that jazz, in DUST it's all about how quickly you can mouse/stick the targeting reticule over the enemy and keep it there. Player skill instead of "ctrl+click and f1."

You're greatly underestimating the skill factor in EVE (tell an interceptor pilot his job is just to click approach, then orbit, and start shooting; better yet, ask the proteus pilot that hit approach on my sieged blaster moros lol).

That said, you're right where you're talking about dust :-)

Yes, I know that with manual flying you can reduce the rad/sec and such to get hits on smaller/faster targets (I can't do it for **** but I've seen it done) but that's why I said "mostly." Most of a ships damage application and aim comes from skills and not so much from the player's ability to keep a steady aim.

The other stuff you mentioned was damage evaison.

But yeah, to those who can manual fly to do great things, I salute you. o7

"players on the bottom start to understand they will not catch up ever"
GVGISDEAD

THIS^^

Hell no, that cap is the only thing keeping the people with massive free time from completely eclipsing EVERYONE else.

As it stands now, the cap limits how fast they can widen the gap between the passives.

EVE has been openly and widely praised for just how well the nature of this skill system balances the issue found in all the other games:

Umm.. you will have to check the other forums, but CCP held a vote and the players decided that we would just keep the skill cap while we are waiting for the rollover - So give them some time, we got what we wanted for now.

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And like I said in another post. All it takes is maxing 6 skills to be competitive in PC. Thats like 5 million skill points.

Proto Armor, Shields, Armor, Shield Extenders, Proto Weapon, Proto Damage Mod.

So yes.. you can catch up.

Stop complaining.

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The problem is game modes, throwing low SP teams against high SP stompers is the reason for QQ. CCP needs to balance the pub matches to be SP driven so people don't roflstomped every match.

I don't get time to play much. I'm not addicted to video games. I have this thing called a full time job and kids and a wife and responsibility.

And I also don't care about KDR. I run cheap fits instead of protogear and have no problem suiciding into the enemy. Mostly beacuse I play games to vent stress rather then to stroke my Epeen. But I'm glad you found something in your life that you can be proud of.

I don't get time to play much. I'm not addicted to video games. I have this thing called a full time job and kids and a wife and responsibility.

And I also don't care about KDR. I run cheap fits instead of protogear and have no problem suiciding into the enemy. Mostly beacuse I play games to vent stress rather then to stroke my Epeen. But I'm glad you found something in your life that you can be proud of.

I've got a full time job, kid, girlfriend, and responsibilities, and I've still got more than a couple hundred kills. If you got 5 kills a game, you'd be at 300 kills in 60 games. The game's been out for ~20 weeks. You can't play more than 3 games a week?

I'm single, and just from work alone generally can't get more than a few hours in per week these days. Dust also isn't the only game I play. There's also my earlier point about support; when you're busy keeping everyone else alive, your own kills aren't exactly high (never mind the matches with a bagillion assists and one kill; would be nice if they tracked assists as kills, like they do in EVE, since final blow, even if it did 1 damage, is all that matters right now.)

And with that being said, why do people who don't play much feel entitled to the same benefits as the people who do? Be glad this game gives you passive SP so you are still improving your character even when you don't play, but don't try and complain because you don't have as much SP as a player like me who caps out every week.

The problem is game modes, throwing low SP teams against high SP stompers is the reason for QQ. CCP needs to balance the pub matches to be SP driven so people don't roflstomped every match.

I wouldn't worry about it much, ad hom attacks, especially based on KB stats, are the best sign of someone who has no real argument. Not to mention that poor KDR is hardly anything new or surprising on someone that flies support the majority of the time.

And with that being said, why do people who don't play much feel entitled to the same benefits as the people who do? Be glad this game gives you passive SP so you are still improving your character even when you don't play, but don't try and complain because you don't have as much SP as a player like me who caps out every week.

I'm not going to send out a wall of text but I think if I could para phrase all of this it would be.

1. Allow a higher SP cap for lower end users to keep a healthy level of rewards going.

2. Players that are just starting out have a very difficult time finding the motivation to build SP.

3. It is demoralizing when players with 10 million SP are playing against players with 1.5 million SP like myself.

4. Most of the players in this game are over the age of 18, meaning we have real world obligations which keep us from being able to catch up to senior players.

This game IS NOT EVE. I know that is hard for some to swallow but that is the truth. We aren't asking this game to be unfair or noob friendly but let's make this game a play to win game not a sit on **** ton of sp game. Also please stop the arbitrary references to EVE key binds as many of us are to ignorant to have any frame of reference to what that actually means.

I'm not going to send out a wall of text but I think if I could para phrase all of this it would be.

1. Allow a higher SP cap for lower end users to keep a healthy level of rewards going.

2. Players that are just starting out have a very difficult time finding the motivation to build SP.

3. It is demoralizing when players with 10 million SP are playing against players with 1.5 million SP like myself.

4. Most of the players in this game are over the age of 18, meaning we have real world obligations which keep us from being able to catch up to senior players.

And with that being said, why do people who don't play much feel entitled to the same benefits as the people who do? Be glad this game gives you passive SP so you are still improving your character even when you don't play, but don't try and complain because you don't have as much SP as a player like me who caps out every week.

It doesn't matter if they have 10 million SP or 100 Million SP. There is only so much you can do with it. Once you get to like 5 million SP you are square.
I "could" see players getting SP boost to that 5 Mill mark. I could also see extending the Academy up to like 4 million SP or having matches where less geared players could compete.
But this "idea" that these super high SP players are gods and will stomp you is a myth. You don't have to catch up. That is the same as in EVE.

Have you even read the thread? I've been one of the most adamant, in this and others, about NOT lifting the cap, and the FACT that SP just isn't that important in the face of teamwork and skill. My point was that pointing to total kills and KDR as if those grant or remove credibility is about as legitimate as saying their gender matters.

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I agree that higher sp players are not gods, but this game rewards me more for putting the game down and building passive SP than it rewards me for actually playing the game. That is why I say this game isn't play to win, it is sit on wait to build sp to win. Why isn't the weekly active booster at least double what I could earn with passive sp gain?

1) Your argument is predicated on the idea that SP matters more than skill and experience, along with isk. None of the things that really matter are capped, and you can't gain any of them while logged out.