Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper.

Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper.

This x1million.
Make bumper do less damage than turret and lavs are fixed.

you do know that a missile turret on a lav can one shot almost any none heavy in one shot if you can hit them
(splash damage does 50% of there hp...)

If my suits takes damage from a 0,3m drop then a driver of a vehicle should take damage too when he crashes into something.

Byebye bumpercars!

you do know that a missile turret on a lav can one shot almost any none heavy in one shot if you can hit them
(splash damage does 50% of there hp...)

Fun fact

firing a proto missile launcher while in a proto drop ship can make the pilot VERY unhappy should you miss and hit his ship causing him to flip and crash into the ground

it was a VERY exiting experiment

(same story for lav's)

What is your point? In other words I'm saying have the LAV bumper be as useful to the turret as a Melee attack is to a dropsuit... If the missiles are that great, than why does no one use them? Oh yea, it's because the laughable mechanic of "touch player = instant death" is infinitely more viable, which is a complete joke honestly.

Funner fact, when the dropship angles just right forcing the aiming limitations of the turret, The turret automatically snaps into a position where it CAN fire on the dropship.

if you can jump out of a air ships almost 1km up in the air and have technology that allows you to hit the ground without splattering all over the ground in a cute little picture

i think its safe to say a fast moving heavy object with a shield that collides into a stationary light weight object should be able to pass through the object with little challenge

I just said I take damage from a 0,3M drop and you ignore it. Can't my technology save me from a bumpercars?
A LAV that just made a U-turn is not on full speed and thus not a fast moving object. If should just push me away.

If said LAV is fast moving and crashes into something: shouldn't it lose its grip and flip over?

But if I play along with your statement...then a dropsuit would lose its shield and armor while the LAV stays full on said shields/armor with no friction of the shields colliding or something like that whatever...?

Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper.

1. I'm calling them bumpercars because everyone is just using to bump into other players instead of actually trying to cap objectives, I'm sorry that I don't followed the rules of the dictionairy, I can see you have some brainpower and should be able to understand the "wordplay" but used it instead to prove me wrong.

2. Summary?

3. What does it matter if I'm a pilot or not? I know you can keep the LAV steady in game, I'm just questionning if it's realistic after you crash into something with full speed and you still not lose control over your LAV? The answer might be in 2. But you decided to give me a lesson in gravity instead....

if you can jump out of a air ships almost 1km up in the air and have technology that allows you to hit the ground without splattering all over the ground in a cute little picture

i think its safe to say a fast moving heavy object with a shield that collides into a stationary light weight object should be able to pass through the object with little challenge

My heavies run 1200hp+ that like running into a boulder of steel. If you run into rocks on the map you take damage. Therefore if you run into me you should take damage. Yay for fysix! \o/

LAV trouble is the same trouble as all Vehicles, we only have Militia and standard level, we can't buff vehicles anymore until we tried out the higher level ones.

Correction
the heavy is not moving at 30mph

also your heavy weight is not based on his shield and Armour its based on small modules attached to him
my car is still heavier but i will notify ccp of this over powered severity of a heavy suit with more hp the a LAV

Lmao run a car into non-moving rock and let me know what happens.

The reason armor plates make me go slower is because they add weight. Go pick up an uparmored humvee door...oh right you can't because it weighs 300+ lbs because it's made of armor plates

Im proto forge and pretty good with it, but lately im finding it harder to kill LAV's than any tank. That's wrong I think.

Correction
the heavy is not moving at 30mph

also your heavy weight is not based on his shield and Armour its based on small modules attached to him
my car is still heavier but i will notify ccp of this over powered severity of a heavy suit with more hp the a LAV

My heavies run 1200hp+ that like running into a boulder of steel. If you run into rocks on the map you take damage. Therefore if you run into me you should take damage. Yay for fysix! \o/

@KOBLAKA1
> I shall feed the troll....more

An easier example for your hillbilly brain: when you are driving around in your Beatdown ford all liquored up and hit a deer (which is not attached to the ground), besides feeding your family for a week with venison you also have to buy s new front end for your truck...because it caused damage

(do you understand the concept of shield)
My lav's primary tank is located in the shield i can assure you
any damage you think my car takes is a trick that you people tell you to keep the fact lav's need a buff a secret

@Tectonious Falcon
> From this. Thread, I have concluded Syther has no idea what he's talking about

Ill have you know im a expert LAV driver and i have wasted hundreds of noobs in my lav
im assuming your some scrub who drives around all day in the free fit

@KOBLAKA1
> I shall feed the troll....more

An easier example for your hillbilly brain: when you are driving around in your Beatdown ford all liquored up and hit a deer (which is not attached to the ground), besides feeding your family for a week with venison you also have to buy s new front end for your truck...because it caused damage

(do you understand the concept of shield)
My lav's primary tank is located in the shield i can assure you
any damage you think my car takes is a trick that you people tell you to keep the fact lav's need a buff a secret

@Tectonious Falcon
> From this. Thread, I have concluded Syther has no idea what he's talking about

Ill have you know im a expert LAV driver and i have wasted hundreds of noobs in my lav
im assuming your some scrub who drives around all day in the free fit

That rock has infinitely more HP than you.

More seriously though, CCP have said they're looking into making LAVs susceptible to collision damage when hitting Dropsuits. Presumably (hopefully) that will be based on a sane combination of collision speed and weight.

If you run into a Scout who's running the other way, he's going splat, and will probably have very little impact on your LAV. If he's running at you, it'll put a dent in your shields, but not too much of one. If it's a Heavy, you'll be hurting. And stopping. And he might not instantly die.

Heavies should act as low-tier rocks. Rock = LAV stops and takes damage. Heavy = LAV slows massively and both take damage.

@Garrett Blacknova
>Heavies should act as low-tier rocks. Rock = LAV stops and takes damage. Heavy = LAV slows massively and both take damage.

if 1M tall infantry in a fat suit counts as a Low-tier rock

then my LAV that is flying through the air at 30MPH should count as a Low-tier statue of justice and freedom

(and as it stand now i hit a scout i stop dead in my tracks due to "collision physics" if i was allowed to keep going at a cost of 400 shield id be fine with that)

LAVs are more then fine.

I am running around with proto swarm launcher with one damage mod and it cant kill militia fit lavs with one full salvo anymore and it cant even one shot the free caldari lav with zero modules fitted. a shield tanked logi lav is impossible to kill for my proto swarm launcher with proto damage mod unless the driver stands still for 10 seconds doing nothing (aka ******** monkey playing). armor tanked LAVs are managable but if the driver is not stupid I wont get him neither.

and the best part about it, LAVs can dodge swarm missiles because the missiles tend to fly into the ground when the LAV driver makes a turn.

in short: a single proto swarm cant take out a well fitted LAV driven by someone that is not a monkey, LAVs dont need a buff.

I've seen LAVs take down Heavies without slowing.

I've seen them get stuck on Scouts.

BOTH are wrong. BOTH need fixing.

Hitting a lightweight Dropsuit should cost you a SMALL amount of shields, and maybe knock your speed down by 1 or 2 kph if they're running at you. If you're trying to splatter a dual-tanked Prototype Heavy across the front of your free LAV, you should be the one who comes out worse.

+1 to you.

I know I know CALM DOWN I HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR THIS

don't you find it funny how in the last build people did not have this much complaining about the lav's ?

back then core skills like shield and Armour pg and cpu
where linked with vehicles (so as you level your merch you level ALL vehicles you could possibly use)

but now with the nerf on vehicles forcing you to actually spec into the class if you want to use it effectively it just become OP ?
and needs to be removed ?

if anything now its easier to deal with vehicles since there are less off them
not to mention the tank nerf

leave feedback and discussion out of this post please no one will notice this here lol
im not being serious just want to see how people will handle this wall of text and if my opinion will get taken seriously lol

no the real problem is people did not spec into av since no one wanted to pilot the UP tanks so there was no point right ?

now no one has av people just drive around in lav's racking up road kills ~

this is how things are going to be until more people get av for a mere 600k sp they would be set for the game
then Free Lav fits would be in trouble that's why they need to be buffed

sooner or later they will literally become ticking time bombs
you want fast safe transportation ?

to bad !

TLDR; Kids will get angry and spec into av and make the free fit av useless so buff it before its to late ccp
If you have anything to say on this issue please leave a reply stating your opinion

lol your the first person who has actually fought me on my original points

but i bet you did not read the whole thing due to the fact your taking this semi seriously

Can i ask you to do yourself a favor and read my original post btw

(the fact people just went on to argue about how lav's shouldn't be able to run over people just goes to show how mad they are at it)

but considering the fact that this whole post is based on what would happen if i make up some random nonsense and see what happens i guess it does not matter

fought you? you were defeated before you even posted your own posts cleary shows that you have no clue about this topic.

i don't think

that is right, you dont have enough brainpower :)

this is a game and should be fair for everyone which you do not grasp. as long you do not need atleast 2 people to drive a vehicle a single person should have a decent chance to atleast scare the LAV driver off which currently works perfectly fine.

in short: as already mentioned, it is futile to argue with someone like you (with no clue and a biased invalid opinion)

Fail-trolls.

Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper.