DUST Search - Lav's need a buff

KOBLAKA1 wrote:

Syther Shadows wrote:

KOBLAKA1 wrote:

Syther Shadows wrote:

RKKR wrote:

If my suits takes damage from a 0,3m drop then a driver of a vehicle should take damage too when he crashes into something.

Byebye bumpercars!

if you can jump out of a air ships almost 1km up in the air and have technology that allows you to hit the ground without splattering all over the ground in a cute little picture

i think its safe to say a fast moving heavy object with a shield that collides into a stationary light weight object should be able to pass through the object with little challenge

My heavies run 1200hp+ that like running into a boulder of steel. If you run into rocks on the map you take damage. Therefore if you run into me you should take damage. Yay for fysix! \o/

Correction
the heavy is not moving at 30mph

also your heavy weight is not based on his shield and Armour its based on small modules attached to him
my car is still heavier but i will notify ccp of this over powered severity of a heavy suit with more hp the a LAV

Lmao run a car into non-moving rock and let me know what happens.

The reason armor plates make me go slower is because they add weight. Go pick up an uparmored humvee door...oh right you can't because it weighs 300+ lbs because it's made of armor plates

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Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 80	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:02:00 - [1] - Quote I know I know CALM DOWN I HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR THIS don't you find it funny how in the last build people did not have this much complaining about the lav's ? back then core skills like shield and Armour pg and cpu where linked with vehicles (so as you level your merch you level ALL vehicles you could possibly use) but now with the nerf on vehicles forcing you to actually spec into the class if you want to use it effectively it just become OP ? and needs to be removed ? if anything now its easier to deal with vehicles since there are less off them not to mention the tank nerf leave feedback and discussion out of this post please no one will notice this here lol im not being serious just want to see how people will handle this wall of text and if my opinion will get taken seriously lol no the real problem is people did not spec into av since no one wanted to pilot the UP tanks so there was no point right ? now no one has av people just drive around in lav's racking up road kills ~ this is how things are going to be until more people get av for a mere 600k sp they would be set for the game then Free Lav fits would be in trouble that's why they need to be buffed sooner or later they will literally become ticking time bombs you want fast safe transportation ? to bad ! TLDR; Kids will get angry and spec into av and make the free fit av useless so buff it before its to late ccp If you have anything to say on this issue please leave a reply stating your opinion
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4764	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:03:00 - [2] - Quote Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1129	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:04:00 - [3] - Quote Buff free AV? lolno if anything it should 50% less damage than it does now so it gets ppl to skill into proper AV
XiBravo TeamPlayers EoN. 65	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:06:00 - [4] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper. This x1million. Make bumper do less damage than turret and lavs are fixed.
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 80	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:07:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper. Fly with a good drop ship pilot that's where the turret kills are at this is just a occupational safety hazard that can easily be avoided with hand eye coordination and motor skills
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 80	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:08:00 - [6] - Quote XiBravo wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper. This x1million. Make bumper do less damage than turret and lavs are fixed. you do know that a missile turret on a lav can one shot almost any none heavy in one shot if you can hit them (splash damage does 50% of there hp...)
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4765	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:10:00 - [7] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: XiBravo wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper. This x1million. Make bumper do less damage than turret and lavs are fixed. you do know that a missile turret on a lav can one shot almost any none heavy in one shot if you can hit them (splash damage does 50% of there hp...) Yes whole reason why I install the chained launcher one increases chances of hitting with more shots. So far out of the 4 types its seems to have the best kill rate. However... it also is very prone to me running into the missiles as I drive around causing them to not even leave the tube ><.
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 80	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:15:00 - [8] - Quote Fun fact firing a proto missile launcher while in a proto drop ship can make the pilot VERY unhappy should you miss and hit his ship causing him to flip and crash into the ground it was a VERY exiting experiment (same story for lav's)
RKKR The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:15:00 - [9] - Quote If my suits takes damage from a 0,3m drop then a driver of a vehicle should take damage too when he crashes into something. Byebye bumpercars!
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 80	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:17:00 - [10] - Quote RKKR wrote: If my suits takes damage from a 0,3m drop then a driver of a vehicle should take damage too when he crashes into something. Byebye bumpercars! if you can jump out of a air ships almost 1km up in the air and have technology that allows you to hit the ground without splattering all over the ground in a cute little picture i think its safe to say a fast moving heavy object with a shield that collides into a stationary light weight object should be able to pass through the object with little challenge

XiBravo TeamPlayers EoN. 65	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:28:00 - [11] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: XiBravo wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper. This x1million. Make bumper do less damage than turret and lavs are fixed. you do know that a missile turret on a lav can one shot almost any none heavy in one shot if you can hit them (splash damage does 50% of there hp...) What is your point? In other words I'm saying have the LAV bumper be as useful to the turret as a Melee attack is to a dropsuit... If the missiles are that great, than why does no one use them? Oh yea, it's because the laughable mechanic of "touch player = instant death" is infinitely more viable, which is a complete joke honestly.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4766	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:31:00 - [12] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: Fun fact firing a proto missile launcher while in a proto drop ship can make the pilot VERY unhappy should you miss and hit his ship causing him to flip and crash into the ground it was a VERY exiting experiment (same story for lav's) Funner fact, when the dropship angles just right forcing the aiming limitations of the turret, The turret automatically snaps into a position where it CAN fire on the dropship.
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 81	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:32:00 - [13] - Quote XiBravo wrote: Syther Shadows wrote: XiBravo wrote: [quote=Iron Wolf Saber] you do know that a missile turret on a lav can one shot almost any none heavy in one shot if you can hit them (splash damage does 50% of there hp...) What is your point? In other words I'm saying have the LAV bumper be as useful to the turret as a Melee attack is to a dropsuit... If the missiles are that great, than why does no one use them? Oh yea, it's because the laughable mechanic of "touch player = instant death" is infinitely more viable, which is a complete joke honestly. I use my missile turrets all the time but if im in a hurray i just take a nice little drive to the object and if i hit a merc or 7 on the way so be it
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 81	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:33:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Syther Shadows wrote: Fun fact firing a proto missile launcher while in a proto drop ship can make the pilot VERY unhappy should you miss and hit his ship causing him to flip and crash into the ground it was a VERY exiting experiment (same story for lav's) Funner fact, when the dropship angles just right forcing the aiming limitations of the turret, The turret automatically snaps into a position where it CAN fire on the dropship. my experiments... have just become ever so fun.... we should do tests together you and i... it will be fun.... (glados voice)
RKKR The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:34:00 - [15] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: RKKR wrote: If my suits takes damage from a 0,3m drop then a driver of a vehicle should take damage too when he crashes into something. Byebye bumpercars! if you can jump out of a air ships almost 1km up in the air and have technology that allows you to hit the ground without splattering all over the ground in a cute little picture i think its safe to say a fast moving heavy object with a shield that collides into a stationary light weight object should be able to pass through the object with little challenge I just said I take damage from a 0,3M drop and you ignore it. Can't my technology save me from a bumpercars? A LAV that just made a U-turn is not on full speed and thus not a fast moving object. If should just push me away. If said LAV is fast moving and crashes into something: shouldn't it lose its grip and flip over? But if I play along with your statement...then a dropsuit would lose its shield and armor while the LAV stays full on said shields/armor with no friction of the shields colliding or something like that whatever...?
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 81	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:41:00 - [16] - Quote RKKR wrote: Syther Shadows wrote: RKKR wrote: If my suits takes damage from a 0,3m drop then a driver of a vehicle should take damage too when he crashes into something. Byebye bumpercars! if you can jump out of a air ships almost 1km up in the air and have technology that allows you to hit the ground without splattering all over the ground in a cute little picture i think its safe to say a fast moving heavy object with a shield that collides into a stationary light weight object should be able to pass through the object with little challenge I just said I take damage from a 0,3M drop and you ignore it. Can't my technology save me from a bumpercars? A LAV that just made a U-turn is not on full speed and thus not a fast moving object. If should just push me away. If said LAV is fast moving and crashes into something: shouldn't it lose its grip and flip over? But if I play along with your statement...then a dropsuit would lose its shield and armor while the LAV stays full on said shields/armor with no friction of the shields colliding or something like that whatever...? I don't know who showed you the technology of neweden but i can assure you that is not how it works 1. Lav is not a bumpercar Bumpercar's are powered by friction (therefore making all your accusations actual solid reasons as to why i should run you over) 2. Shielding works in a special way look up melee combat in dune to understand properly how shields work 3. im sorry are you a pilot ? me and wolf and highly trained and highly qualified lav experts and we know our lav's well fun fact if you believe hard enough the lav will never leave the ground and be unaffected by gravity another fun fact this does not work on planets with low gravity but let's sit and talk for a moment about gravity you know the think that stops bullets from flying in a straight forward motion and pulls down missiles reducing there flight duration do to the over whelming pressure that the planetary pull has on it oh and av grenades ye ive seen what they said about gravity behinds its back.... they are not very nice.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 66	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:52:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper. LAVs have turrets?
RKKR The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.05.30 11:06:00 - [18] - Quote 1. I'm calling them bumpercars because everyone is just using to bump into other players instead of actually trying to cap objectives, I'm sorry that I don't followed the rules of the dictionairy, I can see you have some brainpower and should be able to understand the "wordplay" but used it instead to prove me wrong. 2. Summary? 3. What does it matter if I'm a pilot or not? I know you can keep the LAV steady in game, I'm just questionning if it's realistic after you crash into something with full speed and you still not lose control over your LAV? The answer might be in 2. But you decided to give me a lesson in gravity instead....
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 85	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:50:00 - [19] - Quote RKKR wrote: 1. I'm calling them bumpercars because everyone is just using to bump into other players instead of actually trying to cap objectives, I'm sorry that I don't followed the rules of the dictionairy, I can see you have some brainpower and should be able to understand the "wordplay" but used it instead to prove me wrong. 2. Summary? 3. What does it matter if I'm a pilot or not? I know you can keep the LAV steady in game, I'm just questionning if it's realistic after you crash into something with full speed and you still not lose control over your LAV? The answer might be in 2. But you decided to give me a lesson in gravity instead.... 1. you can cap objectives while your in a lav ? CCP has not buffed the lav yet :P 2. shield block objects that approach at speed that are considered lethal so crashing into some one shield flare kills them rolling onto the ground (no shield flair) slow motion knife fighting no shield flair 3. if you are not a good pilot then you don't know our pains don't act like you know what it is to be a lav user
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 139	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:41:00 - [20] - Quote I was thinking since infantry has a vast amount of stuff to spec into and they made it easy to specialize by making racial variants and stuff, I was thinking they might divide vehicle upgrade skills into vehicle size, small / light medium and heavy / large further making vehicles something you must specialize in but idk.

Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 318	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:47:00 - [21] - Quote LAV trouble is the same trouble as all Vehicles, we only have Militia and standard level, we can't buff vehicles anymore until we tried out the higher level ones.
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Orion Empire 12	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:53:00 - [22] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: RKKR wrote: If my suits takes damage from a 0,3m drop then a driver of a vehicle should take damage too when he crashes into something. Byebye bumpercars! if you can jump out of a air ships almost 1km up in the air and have technology that allows you to hit the ground without splattering all over the ground in a cute little picture i think its safe to say a fast moving heavy object with a shield that collides into a stationary light weight object should be able to pass through the object with little challenge My heavies run 1200hp+ that like running into a boulder of steel. If you run into rocks on the map you take damage. Therefore if you run into me you should take damage. Yay for fysix! \o/
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 86	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:43:00 - [23] - Quote KOBLAKA1 wrote: Syther Shadows wrote: RKKR wrote: If my suits takes damage from a 0,3m drop then a driver of a vehicle should take damage too when he crashes into something. Byebye bumpercars! if you can jump out of a air ships almost 1km up in the air and have technology that allows you to hit the ground without splattering all over the ground in a cute little picture i think its safe to say a fast moving heavy object with a shield that collides into a stationary light weight object should be able to pass through the object with little challenge My heavies run 1200hp+ that like running into a boulder of steel. If you run into rocks on the map you take damage. Therefore if you run into me you should take damage. Yay for fysix! \o/ Correction the heavy is not moving at 30mph also your heavy weight is not based on his shield and Armour its based on small modules attached to him my car is still heavier but i will notify ccp of this over powered severity of a heavy suit with more hp the a LAV
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 86	Posted - 2013.05.31 08:12:00 - [24] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: LAV trouble is the same trouble as all Vehicles, we only have Militia and standard level, we can't buff vehicles anymore until we tried out the higher level ones. if you get two equally skilled players to fight with the same fits suits but slightly different guns for example militia Assault rifle vs Gek Assault rifle at the end of the day the only difference is that one does a few points more damage (literally look it up)
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Orion Empire 16	Posted - 2013.05.31 08:15:00 - [25] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: KOBLAKA1 wrote: Syther Shadows wrote: RKKR wrote: If my suits takes damage from a 0,3m drop then a driver of a vehicle should take damage too when he crashes into something. Byebye bumpercars! if you can jump out of a air ships almost 1km up in the air and have technology that allows you to hit the ground without splattering all over the ground in a cute little picture i think its safe to say a fast moving heavy object with a shield that collides into a stationary light weight object should be able to pass through the object with little challenge My heavies run 1200hp+ that like running into a boulder of steel. If you run into rocks on the map you take damage. Therefore if you run into me you should take damage. Yay for fysix! \o/ Correction the heavy is not moving at 30mph also your heavy weight is not based on his shield and Armour its based on small modules attached to him my car is still heavier but i will notify ccp of this over powered severity of a heavy suit with more hp the a LAV Lmao run a car into non-moving rock and let me know what happens.
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 86	Posted - 2013.05.31 08:25:00 - [26] - Quote KOBLAKA1 wrote: Syther Shadows wrote: KOBLAKA1 wrote: Syther Shadows wrote: RKKR wrote: If my suits takes damage from a 0,3m drop then a driver of a vehicle should take damage too when he crashes into something. Byebye bumpercars! if you can jump out of a air ships almost 1km up in the air and have technology that allows you to hit the ground without splattering all over the ground in a cute little picture i think its safe to say a fast moving heavy object with a shield that collides into a stationary light weight object should be able to pass through the object with little challenge My heavies run 1200hp+ that like running into a boulder of steel. If you run into rocks on the map you take damage. Therefore if you run into me you should take damage. Yay for fysix! \o/ Correction the heavy is not moving at 30mph also your heavy weight is not based on his shield and Armour its based on small modules attached to him my car is still heavier but i will notify ccp of this over powered severity of a heavy suit with more hp the a LAV Lmao run a car into non-moving rock and let me know what happens. The reason armor plates make me go slower is because they add weight. Go pick up an uparmored humvee door...oh right you can't because it weighs 300+ lbs because it's made of armor plates Gooby plz rocks are solid and there "Attached" the the ground Mercs have Armour made from very fine Tritanium but if a merc replaced his Armour with rock let me tell you he would not be moving very far
Superluminal Replicant Planetary Response Organization 73	Posted - 2013.05.31 08:27:00 - [27] - Quote Im proto forge and pretty good with it, but lately im finding it harder to kill LAV's than any tank. That's wrong I think.
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 86	Posted - 2013.05.31 08:30:00 - [28] - Quote Superluminal Replicant wrote: Im proto forge and pretty good with it, but lately im finding it harder to kill LAV's than any tank. That's wrong I think. your aim ?
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Orion Empire 17	Posted - 2013.05.31 08:34:00 - [29] - Quote Quote: Correction the heavy is not moving at 30mph also your heavy weight is not based on his shield and Armour its based on small modules attached to him my car is still heavier but i will notify ccp of this over powered severity of a heavy suit with more hp the a LAV Lmao run a car into non-moving rock and let me know what happens. The reason armor plates make me go slower is because they add weight. Go pick up an uparmored humvee door...oh right you can't because it weighs 300+ lbs because it's made of armor plates[/quote] Gooby plz rocks are solid and there "Attached" the the ground Mercs have Armour made from very fine Tritanium but if a merc replaced his Armour with rock let me tell you he would not be moving very far[/quote] I shall feed the troll....more An easier example for your hillbilly brain: when you are driving around in your Beatdown ford all liquored up and hit a deer (which is not attached to the ground), besides feeding your family for a week with venison you also have to buy s new front end for your truck...because it caused damage
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 512	Posted - 2013.05.31 08:38:00 - [30] - Quote From this. Thread, I have concluded Syther has no idea what he's talking about.



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