My heavies run 1200hp+ that like running into a boulder of steel. If you run into rocks on the map you take damage. Therefore if you run into me you should take damage. Yay for fysix! \o/

@KOBLAKA1
> I shall feed the troll....more

An easier example for your hillbilly brain: when you are driving around in your Beatdown ford all liquored up and hit a deer (which is not attached to the ground), besides feeding your family for a week with venison you also have to buy s new front end for your truck...because it caused damage

(do you understand the concept of shield)
My lav's primary tank is located in the shield i can assure you
any damage you think my car takes is a trick that you people tell you to keep the fact lav's need a buff a secret

@Tectonious Falcon
> From this. Thread, I have concluded Syther has no idea what he's talking about

Ill have you know im a expert LAV driver and i have wasted hundreds of noobs in my lav
im assuming your some scrub who drives around all day in the free fit

@KOBLAKA1
> I shall feed the troll....more

An easier example for your hillbilly brain: when you are driving around in your Beatdown ford all liquored up and hit a deer (which is not attached to the ground), besides feeding your family for a week with venison you also have to buy s new front end for your truck...because it caused damage

(do you understand the concept of shield)
My lav's primary tank is located in the shield i can assure you
any damage you think my car takes is a trick that you people tell you to keep the fact lav's need a buff a secret

@Tectonious Falcon
> From this. Thread, I have concluded Syther has no idea what he's talking about

Ill have you know im a expert LAV driver and i have wasted hundreds of noobs in my lav
im assuming your some scrub who drives around all day in the free fit

That rock has infinitely more HP than you.

More seriously though, CCP have said they're looking into making LAVs susceptible to collision damage when hitting Dropsuits. Presumably (hopefully) that will be based on a sane combination of collision speed and weight.

If you run into a Scout who's running the other way, he's going splat, and will probably have very little impact on your LAV. If he's running at you, it'll put a dent in your shields, but not too much of one. If it's a Heavy, you'll be hurting. And stopping. And he might not instantly die.

Heavies should act as low-tier rocks. Rock = LAV stops and takes damage. Heavy = LAV slows massively and both take damage.

@Garrett Blacknova
>Heavies should act as low-tier rocks. Rock = LAV stops and takes damage. Heavy = LAV slows massively and both take damage.

if 1M tall infantry in a fat suit counts as a Low-tier rock

then my LAV that is flying through the air at 30MPH should count as a Low-tier statue of justice and freedom

(and as it stand now i hit a scout i stop dead in my tracks due to "collision physics" if i was allowed to keep going at a cost of 400 shield id be fine with that)

LAVs are more then fine.

I am running around with proto swarm launcher with one damage mod and it cant kill militia fit lavs with one full salvo anymore and it cant even one shot the free caldari lav with zero modules fitted. a shield tanked logi lav is impossible to kill for my proto swarm launcher with proto damage mod unless the driver stands still for 10 seconds doing nothing (aka ******** monkey playing). armor tanked LAVs are managable but if the driver is not stupid I wont get him neither.

and the best part about it, LAVs can dodge swarm missiles because the missiles tend to fly into the ground when the LAV driver makes a turn.

in short: a single proto swarm cant take out a well fitted LAV driven by someone that is not a monkey, LAVs dont need a buff.

I've seen LAVs take down Heavies without slowing.

I've seen them get stuck on Scouts.

BOTH are wrong. BOTH need fixing.

Hitting a lightweight Dropsuit should cost you a SMALL amount of shields, and maybe knock your speed down by 1 or 2 kph if they're running at you. If you're trying to splatter a dual-tanked Prototype Heavy across the front of your free LAV, you should be the one who comes out worse.

+1 to you.

I know I know CALM DOWN I HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR THIS

don't you find it funny how in the last build people did not have this much complaining about the lav's ?

back then core skills like shield and Armour pg and cpu
where linked with vehicles (so as you level your merch you level ALL vehicles you could possibly use)

but now with the nerf on vehicles forcing you to actually spec into the class if you want to use it effectively it just become OP ?
and needs to be removed ?

if anything now its easier to deal with vehicles since there are less off them
not to mention the tank nerf

leave feedback and discussion out of this post please no one will notice this here lol
im not being serious just want to see how people will handle this wall of text and if my opinion will get taken seriously lol

no the real problem is people did not spec into av since no one wanted to pilot the UP tanks so there was no point right ?

now no one has av people just drive around in lav's racking up road kills ~

this is how things are going to be until more people get av for a mere 600k sp they would be set for the game
then Free Lav fits would be in trouble that's why they need to be buffed

sooner or later they will literally become ticking time bombs
you want fast safe transportation ?

to bad !

TLDR; Kids will get angry and spec into av and make the free fit av useless so buff it before its to late ccp
If you have anything to say on this issue please leave a reply stating your opinion

lol your the first person who has actually fought me on my original points

but i bet you did not read the whole thing due to the fact your taking this semi seriously

Can i ask you to do yourself a favor and read my original post btw

(the fact people just went on to argue about how lav's shouldn't be able to run over people just goes to show how mad they are at it)

but considering the fact that this whole post is based on what would happen if i make up some random nonsense and see what happens i guess it does not matter

fought you? you were defeated before you even posted your own posts cleary shows that you have no clue about this topic.

i don't think

that is right, you dont have enough brainpower :)

this is a game and should be fair for everyone which you do not grasp. as long you do not need atleast 2 people to drive a vehicle a single person should have a decent chance to atleast scare the LAV driver off which currently works perfectly fine.

in short: as already mentioned, it is futile to argue with someone like you (with no clue and a biased invalid opinion)

Fail-trolls.

Turret needs to get more kills than the bumper.