I like watching people tell Sleepy what scouts are good at.

He definitely has no experience with scouts.

Or sniper rifles

Another equipment slot would make Scouts very valuable in PC... I wonder if we will ever get that equipment slot back :(

right now scouts are better off than heavies in pubs

I don't understand how heavies are so useless.

My alt is a heavy with only about 2 million SP and he is VERY effective in pubs. I have decent plates and the advanced HMG with better range. I also keep a militia forge build for AV and it works very well when someone calls in a dropship or to keep tanks at bay when needed.

I die much less with my heavy and get more kills, but my scout pimps and protects the objectives better with RE.

Even though they are fast and fun at first they hardly have any slots or CPU/PG compared to the other suits. Unless I'm missing something I don't see an advantage they have that balances them out in comparison to other classes.

I came against quite a few proto scouts in a game of domination the other day, unless they're super speed scouts with shotguns who can run rings around you even the proto ones go down easy and I was using a GEK at the time.

Yep, 2 - 3 shots from a Duvolle TAC and I'm dead.

It wouldn't bother me that much if Shotguns weren't so broken.

LOL, you'd never see anyone on a map...EVERYONE would spec into cloaky nova knife scouts. You'd just hear random slash noises without ever seeing anyone :D

@pseudosnipre Then the cloak would need a timer or how would you ever see the scout - look for the shimmer like Predator ?

when cloaking devices come ( big IF), i think they should be only available to scouts, and when u shoot cloaks wears off, same as sprinting and jumping and getting shot, flux nades could deactivate them, the faster u move the more visible u are, being crouched and still makes u nearly invisible close range and walking is much easier to see, and maybe special aims in certain weapons that can see through the cloaks, that way it exists balance in some lvl, and i hope some day we scouts could get silenced weapons

In summary,
proto Scout with shotgun needs 3 hits from a SG to kill a proto anything else
proto anything else needs 3 hits from an AR to kill proto scout

which do you think is easier?

Considering there is actual video evidence of some of the best players in the game (Imps) struggling to land those 3 shots on said scout, despite 3-4 players opening fire on them, I am not sure its as clear cut as you make it out to be :)

I just specced out of Scout. I loved it, its a lot of fun to play. I never did get into shotties with it though, because there is a certan reliance on luck/bad hit detection/bad aim, to be successful as one. I dont remotely understand how the best shotgun scouts do their thing, but trying to do the same felt like a crap shoot. Sometimes, nobody can hit you and you dance for hours, sometimes you get gunned down in an instant.

Ill have to watch that vid again, but Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane were using logis?

In which case, all their movements were sprint? If so, not sure I can replicate sprinting at the angles they do on the DS3...For my own ego, I hope they use KB/M.

Considering there is actual video evidence of some of the best players in the game (Imps) struggling to land those 3 shots on said scout, despite 3-4 players opening fire on them, I am not sure its as clear cut as you make it out to be :)

I just specced out of Scout. I loved it, its a lot of fun to play. I never did get into shotties with it though, because there is a certan reliance on luck/bad hit detection/bad aim, to be successful as one. I dont remotely understand how the best shotgun scouts do their thing, but trying to do the same felt like a crap shoot. Sometimes, nobody can hit you and you dance for hours, sometimes you get gunned down in an instant.

^^ QFT

Battles with AR users are just stupid. My advanced shotgun takes at least 2 shots to kill, that's if I get them perfect (unless they are standing still in advanced or less suits, which NEVER happens with a good player). And with proto suits im generally needing to dance every single shot from a person who is just backpedling spraying an AR so that they don't hit me with 3 shots, while I try to get MY 3 shots to land with 100% accuracy.

In summary,
proto Scout with shotgun needs 3 hits from a SG to kill a proto anything else
proto anything else needs 3 hits from an AR to kill proto scout

which do you think is easier?

The only reason to spec scout is for the nova knife damage bonus. That's literally it.

People like to bring up flanking and the speed bonuses, but medium frames can do those things practically just as well, with more HP, CPU, PG, and slots.

^ what he said

They also get a 10% P damp bonus on top of that KN AND Melee bonus of 25% at LV 5. I have M scout LV5 + P Damp Lv 5. I don't even have to use dampeners and no one ever knows where I am. It's pretty sweet. Now if only the darn knives worked 100% An dI wish the controls weren't so sluggish it was viable to throw punches along with knife slashes... but i have to break out the sports section while I wait for the transition to happen. if it even does