I've decided not to go for a respec. I've held onto my laser skills, but don't use the weapon anymore. If they ever fix it, I'll probably use it again, but not like I used too. At the moment, I have found it so far gone, that CCP will probably make it the next TAC AR out of typical CCP over-correction.

I was a major laser user in Chromosome, enjoyed it, and did quite well despite being a big, slow heavy (since ti was the only Amarrian suit). Even the Basic and ELM-7 (advanced) LRs were reapers of no-man's land.

When Uprising came out on the 6th, I hung onto a majority of my SP (investing only in core skills such as +25% armor and +25% shields) and waited for the new weapons to come out on the 14th before deciding which weapon to go with between the Scrambler Rifle and the Laser Rifle. During that week long time I read plenty of complaints about the LR that led me to hesitate and eventually choose the SR over the LR.

I haven't used the LR yet, but I certainly wouldn't hesitate to invest SP into it if it returned to a state similar to what it was in Chromosome.

Also, an extra +1 to OP for his name. Made me smile.

I browse this forum every day to see if anyone is seriously talking about lasers. The threads exist, but they are few and far between. I fear that with the optional respecs coming through this week, that the few holdouts will abandon lasers for good.

I have 11 milllon SP, with lasers nearly maxed out. I run proto amarr suits with viziams and I simply cannot compete. Out of frustration, and for an experiment, I threw a whopping 300k into AR...I clean up with a GEK with almost no skills. This is crazy.

Please please please give me some indication that lasers will be tweaked soon, or even that the bonuses on my amarr suits will be made worthwhile, or I will have to abandon this class and throw all my SP into something else. Every other person still trying to use lasers (I've met like 3) is thinking this way. I don't really want to play AR, but with my stupid lasers, my corp doesn't even want me in PC battles (I don't blame them).

Lasers are cool right? We want them in this game? Better do something quick. Once the respec comes through, I'm only going to be able to stand playing militia suits and murder taxi for so long. I doubt I'm alone on this.

You know what's really hilarious?

They're going to fix the Tac AR.

But not before Monday, when everyone and their mother will spec into it, just like Heavy Missiles in EVE.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm gonna be trolling the hell out of all those tryhards when the balance changes for the Tac AR come in and the "I WIN" crutch is yanked out from under them.

How many respec threads you think we'll see? I'm betting at least the first two pages of GD.


As far as the Laser Rifle, I used to love that weapon. After watching Pyrex and lowratehitman use them, I decided not to try them when I logged in for the first time since the new build last night. I really want to see them be useful again.

This is probably the smart way to go, but I just don't have the patience. I wanna play PC dammit.

I find this hilarious.

Everyone said Lasers were OP and the rest of us were saying: "Nah, it's not. It's Damage Mods that are OP."

Lasers get nerfed, now they're useless and everyone's crying.

Reap what you sow, won't have any sympathy from me here - fix your own monster.

So level your laser skill up to 5 and 1 to use the proto lasers and then spec into somethign else untill it's fixxed.

I browse this forum every day to see if anyone is seriously talking about lasers. The threads exist, but they are few and far between. I fear that with the optional respecs coming through this week, that the few holdouts will abandon lasers for good.

I have 11 milllon SP, with lasers nearly maxed out. I run proto amarr suits with viziams and I simply cannot compete. Out of frustration, and for an experiment, I threw a whopping 300k into AR...I clean up with a GEK with almost no skills. This is crazy.

Please please please give me some indication that lasers will be tweaked soon, or even that the bonuses on my amarr suits will be made worthwhile, or I will have to abandon this class and throw all my SP into something else. Every other person still trying to use lasers (I've met like 3) is thinking this way. I don't really want to play AR, but with my stupid lasers, my corp doesn't even want me in PC battles (I don't blame them).

Lasers are cool right? We want them in this game? Better do something quick. Once the respec comes through, I'm only going to be able to stand playing militia suits and murder taxi for so long. I doubt I'm alone on this.

Stick with what you like. Flavor of the month will only make you sad when it's nerfed.
Could you point me toward the laser feedback thread you're mentionning ?

Could you point me toward the laser feedback thread you're mentionning ?

Cannot answer for him but there is this one.

I've decided not to go for a respec. I've held onto my laser skills, but don't use the weapon anymore. If they ever fix it, I'll probably use it again, but not like I used too. At the moment, I have found it so far gone, that CCP will probably make it the next TAC AR out of typical CCP over-correction.

I'm glad Lasers got nerfed. It's refreshing not to see 3+ instant death beams cascading back and forth from out of the cradle in Manus Peak, or off the raised platform in Line Harvest.

I feel for you guys, I really do. I used to be an HMG heavy in Chromosome, but now I just can't take the range. I just hope CCP doesn't overcompensate the **** out of the laser. We all know deep down that the viziam was OP, but they didn't need to nerf it into the ground. And hopefully they won't bring it back up by making it the ultimate win button again.

Yeah, because the TAC nightmare is so much more fun.

Yeah, because the TAC nightmare is so much more fun.

I specced everything into the SCR,
my only real love is the lasers, but with this lack of informations we get, the respec is nearly useless, the only reason I skilled into SCR and not AR is because I keep up the hope for the return of the laser, but to be honest I don't see this in the near future.

Edit:

The real problem with the laser for me was the range, it could reach so far and kill so quick.
But I think the range was the only thing which was OP.

All this qq threats about lasers came from people who never tried to use the laser.
If my PROTO laser is close to explosion, and you are in my optimal range, FOR SURE this weapon should melt faces. And yeah we had players doing so good they could take this 1 second where the laser was this strong to wipe out 2-3 people. But this had nothing to do with the laser being OP, this had something to do with the laser working fine and a qualified laser user.

I would not go under 18 for the base damage of the viziam. It is a proto weapon and it is made to kill, with the huge flaws one have in CQC with this weapon this is absolutely fair, and wayyyyyyyyy better balanced than the "optimum in all ranges" TAC.


Th problem is CCP did not even try to balance the laser. They just wanted to see it dead because they nerfed every single stat on this weapon. Not just range, not just damge, no freaking everything, I mean c'mon what fdid you expect CCP? It would have made more sense t just erase the weapon from the game, because this way it might return as a bug and be more effective than the LR right now.

It's sad that when I take fire from a laser I just think "Oh boy, I'm sorry for you" and then just make him pop, in no matter which range with nearly every weapon available.

right now Everything>LR

I remember the days when the laser rifle, mass driver, and HMG were actually feared in Dust and moderately as effective as the assault rifle. I miss the days when we at least closer to weapon balance. Chromosome, Chromosome, where art thou Chromosome?

I remember the days when the laser rifle, mass driver, and HMG were actually feared in Dust and moderately as effective as the assault rifle. I miss the days when we at least closer to weapon balance. Chromosome, Chromosome, where art thou Chromosome?

Lone Laser Rifle user just spotted in Ambush match today. Potentially the last of his kind. How do we go about keeping the Laser Rifle Guy from going extinct?