Dust will never be ready for prime time until CCP puts dust in the hands of experienced and capable and tested FPS designers

Instead CCP will continue to let this game slide by on its potential rather then hard work and ability. Its the rich talented kid in school, no matter how much money and time daddy feeds it it wont do anything till it gets off its ass and proves itself

And why would ccp fix a broken game that is probably making a nice chunk of change while being broken

CCP devs have 0 incentive to fix the game or make it better, from a dev standpoint they can keep dragging the game along while they suckle at their mothers teat

They need incentive and deadlines and the like, rather then the circle jerk of hand holding CCP currently uses as a business model

This game has gone from standing on its own merit to standing on EVE's merit

Not that it could really stand on either

Its like making a game sequel but not having to worry about messing it up

Dust is a mini game for EVE.

Dust is a mini game for EVE.

Both games would have to have a valid, meaningful connection for Dust to even be a mini game for EVE. They already screwed the pooch on FW by making it no better than a pub match and PC is a giant middle finger to Dust/EVE alliances since you can just use a NPC orbital. Dust is more like a pilot spinoff to a EVE right now. Maybe it'll get better in the future, maybe it won't, but I'm tired of seeing placeholders for stuff that's still on the drawing board.

Iv sadly burned out I'm tired of hearing what the devs are working on rather than seeing. All the new content only 10% of the player base will ever see. I played black ops 2 yesterday and had a lot of fun can't remember the last time I said that about dust :-(

Is it really as bad as you make it sound?

Iv sadly burned out I'm tired of hearing what the devs are working on rather than seeing. All the new content only 10% of the player base will ever see. I played black ops 2 yesterday and had a lot of fun can't remember the last time I said that about dust :-(

*Depends on how you want to look at it

CCP is has a dev team of only 70 ppl trying to build a "AAA game" so they say no company in the history of modern FPS development has ever used such a small dev team.

Even Bohemia interactive has 200 employees, bungie had 350 and other companies use far far larger dev teams.

Really we cant say how good or bad they are doing with 70 guys but judging from turnaround and content output as well as QA of the builds itself I would say they are struggling yes.

But I am not a gaming consultant or a industry expert, they would be very good at telling you how a company was doing based of information gathered and analyzing the relevant data.

But I do know there team is not experienced in FPS production, and they have been working on this game since 2005 indicating many periods of development hell.

But I have no idea as to management inside the dev team or experience levels or moral.

But CCP has never struck me as a hard charging company.

It is clear that their prioritization needs work, and/or their dev team is stretched too thin. I'm working on a post on this.

Iv sadly burned out I'm tired of hearing what the devs are working on rather than seeing. All the new content only 10% of the player base will ever see. I played black ops 2 yesterday and had a lot of fun can't remember the last time I said that about dust :-(

*Depends on how you want to look at it

CCP is has a dev team of only 70 ppl trying to build a "AAA game" so they say no company in the history of modern FPS development has ever used such a small dev team.

Even Bohemia interactive has 200 employees, bungie had 350 and other companies use far far larger dev teams.

Really we cant say how good or bad they are doing with 70 guys but judging from turnaround and content output as well as QA of the builds itself I would say they are struggling yes.

But I am not a gaming consultant or a industry expert, they would be very good at telling you how a company was doing based of information gathered and analyzing the relevant data.

But I do know there team is not experienced in FPS production, and they have been working on this game since 2005 indicating many periods of development hell.

But I have no idea as to management inside the dev team or experience levels or moral.

But CCP has never struck me as a hard charging company.

I would be interested in helping you with any information gathering I could that you might need to flush out the details. contact me in game and we will find a decent way to link up.

I dont really have issue with the overall FPS side

yes it has balance issues, damage and range needs to be addressed on most weapons, we should not have weapons as OP as the tar, its not that hard to bring them inline it was quite obvious looking at the stats how silly that weapons was going to be

The basic gun combat makes no sense though.

I admit I've only just started playing but there seems to be very limited ballistics modelling (bullet drop, damage degradation, very basic cones of fires etc etc).

The range of weapons is also ridiculous compared to any other FPS. It becomes a binary situation, you can see guys half way across the map but can only fight at knife fight ranges, you're usually either out of range or bunny-hopping around a guy at ranges where you can look up his nostrils. We don't want assault rifles that can act like sniper rifles but most other FPSs have a more smoothed out ballistics model where your gun's effectiveness degrades in a more complex and rational manner (and usually over longer distances).

IMO optimal ranges could use a good 50% increase on almost every non-sniper weapon and max ranges could be doubled (heck even maybe tripled). Your mileage may vary.

Yeah I was being a little generous.

Everyone knows about the problem with the mechanics.
No one denies it.
It will be tweaked, adjusted, improved every expansion.

If you-¦re not satisfied with the current gameplay, return when it-¦s better. It may take a long time.
If you-¦re not satisfied with the current features, return when it-¦s better. It may take a long time.
If you eventually return, don-¦t complain about SP gap between players.

Everyone knows about the problem with the mechanics.
No one denies it.
It will be tweaked, adjusted, improved every expansion.

If you-¦re not satisfied with the current gameplay, return when it-¦s better. It may take a long time.
If you-¦re not satisfied with the current features, return when it-¦s better. It may take a long time.
If you eventually return, don-¦t complain about SP gap between players.

Ranges were longer in Chromosome (build prior to launch), and those made the gameplay worse. Everyone was mid-range sniping, you couldn't cover any open areas in a scout suit without getting torn to shreds, and Heavies mowed everyone down from 50+ meters. Current ranges are fine, they have brought the confrontations to shorter ranges so you're not shooting at pinkie-sized toons on the screen.

But I agree on the weapon damage drop. It's supposed to work so that the weapon does max damage up to optimal range, with drop off to max range, and some minimal damage beyond that. Currently there's a hard clip at max range, ie. you do zero damage at max range plus 1 meter. This is supposed to be fixed soon, if not already fixed (haven't checked).

Tell us something we don't know. The MMORPG side is fine, it's the FPS mechanics that need work. I could've told you that without citing biased game reviewers. But I guess you want to feel special.