Nope. HTFU.

Considering this is a game, perhaps CCP should lock districts when it is a national holiday for 500M people or greater? No production, no attacks, no defenses, just days off for RL to come first. People shouldn't be losing a year of progress for not being available on a mass scale for 2 days in a row.

You really want to log on to DUST on christmas? If your RL job asked that of you it tends to be AT LEAST double pay.

Nope. HTFU.

Make up your mind, is it a game or is it real life?

Make up your mind, is it a game or is it real life?

Did you know in WWI there was a cease-fire during christmas day. The opposing forces came into 'no man's land' and played soccer. I honestly wouldn't care for a cease fire on christmas. The only problem i see with that is that other countries have different holidays.

Did you know in WWI there was a cease-fire during christmas day. The opposing forces came into 'no man's land' and played soccer. I honestly wouldn't care for a cease fire on christmas. The only problem i see with that is that other countries have different holidays.

Which is why I threw out the number of 500M. At the very least, if it affects over 5-10% of all humans, we shouldn't have the game try and compete with ti.

This is entertainment, not a real war (if that starts to blur in your mind, seek help). Some people celebrate holidays with their families. Some play games. Some do both. I'm not going to tell others what they should do with their free time and I'd like to think that attitude is prevalent amongst most adults.

does eve stop on christmas? There's your answer, we are mercenaries, we don't get time off, we set our own hours and accept the consequences of deciding to take time off.

You really want to log on to DUST on christmas? If your RL job asked that of you it tends to be AT LEAST double pay.

This is a game where players can lose years of progress in 2 days. By not pushing pause, you ARE telling them what to do (at least if they want to play the "important" part of the game).

This is entertainment, not a real war (if that starts to blur in your mind, seek help). Some people celebrate holidays with their families. Some play games. Some do both. I'm not going to tell others what they should do with their free time and I'd like to think that attitude is prevalent amongst most adults.

Two years in two days? Maybe. If another corp has to wait until you're not there to take your district(s), chances are they're not good enough to actually defend it when you come back. Besides, think of all the fun you'll have finding out

In the end it doesn't matter, when CCP turns the servers off (at some stage in the future it will happen) everyone will lose everything anyway

1 pilot can't flip sov in 2 days. Different f**king games

same universe, same rules. you want time off? stop playing and deal with the consequences.

My mind is very clear, sir. That's is exactly what i was referring to. In a REAL war there was a break on a holiday. So why does it matter there is a break in a Non-real war?

Did you go to a special school? The rules aren't even close to the same.

It doesn't matter. It takes days for us to take a planet from a corp that only fields 7 in defense. If it is a real rival, it's just not fun.

Did you know in WWI there was a cease-fire during christmas day. The opposing forces came into 'no man's land' and played soccer. I honestly wouldn't care for a cease fire on christmas. The only problem i see with that is that other countries have different holidays.

Considering this is a game, perhaps CCP should lock districts when it is a national holiday for 500M people or greater? No production, no attacks, no defenses, just days off for RL to come first. People shouldn't be losing a year of progress for not being available on a mass scale for 2 days in a row.

And ww2 there was only killing in christmas and any other holidays,you dont have to log in game,people has holidays when they are not in game.Use that in your advantage

Are you seriously suggesting we should take DUST more seriously than WW2?

You really want to log on to DUST on christmas? If your RL job asked that of you it tends to be AT LEAST double pay.

This ain't WoW where you dance and set off fireworks during christmas in game and hug everyone. THIS IS WAR!

Actually eve has fireworks.

Actually eve has fireworks.

Eve also takes a few weeks to flip ownership of something. DUST you can do it in 1 day with an AWOXer or 2 days with a single unopposed person. Everywhere can be flipped in one day by one character. No one sees this as a problem?

not up to date with lingo what's htfu mean?

not up to date with lingo what's htfu mean? and I don't do holidays as in im the Antichrist so meh :)

not up to date with lingo what's htfu mean? and I don't do holidays as in im the Antichrist so meh :)

Aren't holidays the best days to play games? everyone is away from work and has ample free time for pew.

Fun Fun Fun

Do they do that for sov in EvE?

Sov doesn't flip in a day. Take nearly a week iirc.

Next you'll be asking for all of Iceland to close up shop for practically the whole month of December.

Oh, wait...

I think the solution to this is to give corps a sort of shield device that basically equates to a small number of blackout days that they can use at their leisure.

Cant you just pay the price to have an alt corp attack your interests if you really want a guaranteed day of rest?

Everyone else faces the same risk and currently has the same option.

Still need someone logging on to do that. And that assumes someone is giving you respite from attack. Honestly, it's the other corps that should be worried, we're a bunch of friendless no lifers. It's a public service we provide to make taking your districts fair to you

Good points on the under siege situation.

In either case, I think there's options, and while it may not be convenient for some it doesn't mean that it's a problem that the devs need to intervene in ;-)

"Don't get attacked" isn't a reasonable mechanic to avoid making this game unfun. Do I need a certain Jew quota in my corp to defend on Christmas?

Yes, or some of them middle easterners. I don't think they worship the christian gods... alternatively some of them people from asia that haven't been converted by the christian missionaries that traveled east during the great crusades.

Seriously though. Don't get attacked isnt the solution. The solution is 'have people there to defend'. You have to make sacrifices to have a smaller tighter knit team. One of those sacrifices is not having a solid c,d team that can fill the ranks when some wanna take a break for the holidays.

I say all this with the utmost respect and to add to the context... i have an app in to impswarm sitting and waiting for acknowledgement.

Not my call, but I do like your style. We are only accepting proven AWOXERs at this time though so competition is tight.

AWOX'ing is not something I have the time nor desire

In real life noone stop you to start a war in christmas only reuptation or bad press. Why shoud CCP play "god" in the game and stop this. I hope ppl will be polite enough to not do it.

But in real life they DO stop wars on high holidays quite often. It's a game where they made it cake to take away what could cost years to acquire, that's why CCP needs to change something.

But in real life they DO stop wars on high holidays quite often. It's a game where they made it cake to take away what could cost years to acquire, that's why CCP needs to change something.

Just to be snarky... if it only takes a day to take it... and one holds rightful claim to it... couldn't they then take it back the next day?

If they've got the muscle to hold it the other 364 days a year why do we need dev intervention for that 'one day'.

Otoky makes another point though as well that you may have skipped over. The reasons for it in the real world is 'pr' related and has nothing to do with a magical barrier preventing us from assassinating kim jong on christmas.

Do I have to show the examples from the 20. century when someone started to attack (or war) when the enemy celebrated something religious?
Nah, google it. You will be suprised

It only takes a day to do it if no one is around. That's why it's silly. Even the druge like walmart have to pay an arm and a leg to force people to work holidays, and this is just a game.

But it's also a an attempt at a 'sandbox' mmo. And by design, in a sandbox, you want to give the players as much freedom as possible.

If someone attacks on a holiday, this could be spun on the forums to ignite a 'holy war' and have them wiped off the face of the game.

The other part of dust that will immerse and has been for a long time in eve is the politics.

Some would argue that most major swings in EVE were due to political mishandling..

That goes right out the window when you accept the PC mechanics are 100% arbitrary.

the corp will live :p there'll always be someone on :p

If someone attacks on a holiday, this could be spun on the forums to ignite a 'holy war' and have them wiped off the face of the game.

Considering this is a game, perhaps CCP should lock districts when it is a national holiday for 500M people or greater? No production, no attacks, no defenses, just days off for RL to come first. People shouldn't be losing a year of progress for not being available on a mass scale for 2 days in a row.

Agreed. As much as we love playing this game. We do have families and friends.

Considering this is a game, perhaps CCP should lock districts when it is a national holiday for 500M people or greater? No production, no attacks, no defenses, just days off for RL to come first. People shouldn't be losing a year of progress for not being available on a mass scale for 2 days in a row.

People also have jobs, school, sleep... In essence, everyone has other commitments. Can't cater to people who only want to play on their free time. Just because you choose to go on holiday, or spend time with others, shouldn't detract from other people wanting to play the game.

Well i know, it does get stressful after a day or two. But don't mistake me for the ones who would only show up weekends. If i had to think for myself, i'd do so and keep playing with 3 alarm clocks on. But this isnt about me or just one person. The op has a good suggestion. He is only asking for PC battles to be on seize. Not the entire. most posters here sound like, they play PC only, all day, every day

Well i know, it does get stressful after a day or two. But don't mistake me for the ones who would only show up weekends. If i had to think for myself, i'd do so and keep playing with 3 alarm clocks on. But this isnt about me or just one person. The op has a good suggestion. He is only asking for PC battles to be on seize. Not the entire. most posters here sound like, they play PC only, all day, every day

Again no. It's a terrible idea. PC is the nullsec of Dust currently. If someone else has the balls and capability to attack on a holiday, then suck it up buttercup.

HTFU or get out of PC.

PC isn't supposed to be some gentlemen's club. Dust, and PC in particular, should be as sandboxy as possible. This means the players make the rules, not CCP.

Even better then, players can decide not to attack each other on certain days. Or not!!! Let the QQ threads begin after that.

To be absolutely fair, you do have 24 hours notice on a PC battle. If you see the timer, and realise that there'll be a battle on the holiday, but still choose to go on holiday (the better decision imo), then that's entirely your choice. It's a case of priorities. However, allow the teenagers and young adults who don't have plans (or plans for the full day) to play PC if they want to.

Nope. HTFU.

just no.

EVE has fireworks, we use them in jita to try and get people to concord themselves.

there are no breaks, no off time, wars begin, and end, you don't want to fight on Christmas, then organize the players for a ceasefire, CCP won't enforce one, in fact they will probably have events to try and get us to kill more people.

My mind is very clear, sir. That's is exactly what i was referring to. In a REAL war there was a break on a holiday. So why does it matter there is a break in a Non-real war?

The best way to do this is offer a general tool that cost high amounts of isk to block out the district for a day. To limit any possible abuse, have a cool down period. Story wise it could be paying Concord to protect that district for 24hrs? CCP could expand that functionality then to offer a cheaper rate on world wide holiday / holiday that the community votes on. #justideas

Do you EVER have any thought process or do you just always go around declaring things and expect people to listen to you?

Choices have consequences.

If you want a puppy, you got to take care, feed, and clean the poop.

Whenever it is needed.

If you don-¦t want the consequences, don-¦t make the choice.

I get now. None of you have real lives, therefore EVE/DUST is REAL.

Thread is now full of win.

Just another post saying absolutely NO to this idiotic, carebare bullshit.

Don't wanna play? That's your choice; take it back in the morning, if you can. Timing your assaults is very much part of the metagame, and that's why things like RF timers and strontium clathrates exist: to help get you a fight when you can defend, but not guarantee everything on your terms.

Contrary to what's asked for hear, holidays tend to be PEAKS for gaming, because we have the free time TO game (especially in the US, known for almost no holidays that get you out of work, and where two weeks vacation per year is seen as insanely awesome; compare with the rest of the developed world where almost a month per year is standard).

There's nothing more to see here, folks; if you want safety, go play some Call of Halo or whatever the piece of **** shooter du jour is; this is New Eden. If you want in on the part of the game with consequences involved, accept the consequences.

I think its rather funny that there are people who are dellusional enough thinking that a steep price is going to prevent abuse and help the 'smaller corp' out when it will only be uitliitzed by the far more organized and larger corp to prevent smaller corps from EVER getting it.

As it stands now what would you spend your excessive isk on?

Good idea. For all the EVE players whining... Dust is it's own game, it might have the same plot, though game play is definitely different.

Different game, different rules.

Good idea. For all the EVE players whining... Dust is it's own game, it might have the same plot, though game play is definitely different.

Different game, different rules.

I think its rather funny that there are people who are dellusional enough thinking that a steep price is going to prevent abuse and help the 'smaller corp' out when it will only be uitliitzed by the far more organized and larger corp to prevent smaller corps from EVER getting it.

As it stands now what would you spend your excessive isk on?

Nope. HTFU.

I think its rather funny that there are people who are dellusional enough thinking that a steep price is going to prevent abuse and help the 'smaller corp' out when it will only be uitliitzed by the far more organized and larger corp to prevent smaller corps from EVER getting it.

As it stands now what would you spend your excessive isk on?

Looks like it's 2:1 against your callousness. Perhaps you should HTFU and accept players want lives outside of the game.

Looks like it's 2:1 against your callousness. Perhaps you should HTFU and accept players want lives outside of the game.

Except if you use aurum, it would then turn it into true pay to win.

The best solution for this is merc marketplace where people can sell themselves available and corps can build a roster of trusted and untrusted clients. Then use collateral to help prevent 'throwing' the match costing the failure more than the territory is worth.

Looks like it's 2:1 against your callousness. Perhaps you should HTFU and accept players want lives outside of the game.

If you had a real life outside of the game you wouldn't be wanting them to shut down for a holiday. Wanting this means you care a little bit too much I think. Not every country or person has the same holidays or on the same day either.

I'm going on vacation this holiday weekend.

**** dust I'd rather have fun with my family, friend, and girlfriend at the shore.

And this is why I can't get too serious into any of CCP's games. I want a game to be a game sometimes, and not a full time job.

And this is why I can't get too serious into any of CCP's games. I want a game to be a game sometimes, and not a full time job.

Hence, you're a casual gamer. PC isn't intended for the casual crowd.

Looks like it's 2:1 against your callousness. Perhaps you should HTFU and accept players want lives outside of the game.

No, that's called someone who has a life and relationships in the real world... Hardcore gamers can have those too....

Did you know in WWI there was a cease-fire during christmas day. The opposing forces came into 'no man's land' and played soccer. I honestly wouldn't care for a cease fire on christmas. The only problem i see with that is that other countries have different holidays.

No, that's called someone who has a life and relationships in the real world... Hardcore gamers can have those too....