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Vavilia Lysenko
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.05.23 16:52:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:EVE has fireworks, we use them in jita to try and get people to concord themselves.
there are no breaks, no off time, wars begin, and end, you don't want to fight on Christmas, then organize the players for a ceasefire, CCP won't enforce one, in fact they will probably have events to try and get us to kill more people.
Indeed. So I propose instead of some ceasefire we have "Christmas Carnage" |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
296
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:03:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Setaceous Prime wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:Setaceous Prime wrote:Nope. HTFU. Did you know in WWI there was a cease-fire during christmas day. The opposing forces came into 'no man's land' and played soccer. I honestly wouldn't care for a cease fire on christmas. The only problem i see with that is that other countries have different holidays. This is entertainment, not a real war (if that starts to blur in your mind, seek help). Some people celebrate holidays with their families. Some play games. Some do both. I'm not going to tell others what they should do with their free time and I'd like to think that attitude is prevalent amongst most adults. My mind is very clear, sir. That's is exactly what i was referring to. In a REAL war there was a break on a holiday. So why does it matter there is a break in a Non-real war?
It wasn't an officially sanctioned ceasefire. The officers and NCOs involved were also punished and measures were taken to prevent something like that from happening again. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1631
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:14:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:The best way to do this is offer a general tool that cost high amounts of isk to block out the district for a day. To limit any possible abuse, have a cool down period. Story wise it could be paying Concord to protect that district for 24hrs? CCP could expand that functionality then to offer a cheaper rate on world wide holiday / holiday that the community votes on. #justideas
Thread is now full of win. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1632
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:25:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:jenza aranda wrote:just no. Do you EVER have any thought process or do you just always go around declaring things and expect people to listen to you?
Got an answer on IRC, full of unintentional irony: [12:46] <+jenza> i don't see why i should waste my time replying to a stupid idea from someone too blockheaded to see beyond their own selfish idea.
Good job CPM0 Jenza. Good job. |
Natu Nobilis
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
307
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:26:00 -
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Choices have consequences.
If you want a puppy, you got to take care, feed, and clean the poop.
Whenever it is needed.
If you don-¦t want the consequences, don-¦t make the choice. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1632
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:28:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Choices have consequences.
If you want a puppy, you got to take care, feed, and clean the poop.
Whenever it is needed.
If you don-¦t want the consequences, don-¦t make the choice.
I get now. None of you have real lives, therefore EVE/DUST is REAL. |
Natu Nobilis
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
308
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:44:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Natu Nobilis wrote:Choices have consequences.
If you want a puppy, you got to take care, feed, and clean the poop.
Whenever it is needed.
If you don-¦t want the consequences, don-¦t make the choice. I get now. None of you have real lives, therefore EVE/DUST is REAL.
Nope.
The game you chose to play is a persistent one.
Being persistent, there-¦s no pause nor resume.
It happens 23.5 / 7
That-¦s the mechanic of the game you chose to play.
Certain features of the game you chose to play, involve a degree of commitment.
This degree of commitment, appears to be unwanted by you.
Instead of forfeiting said mechanic, you chose to come to the forums to ask for a change in the mechanic.
Several people disagree with proposed change.
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Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
610
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Posted - 2013.05.23 18:20:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Brush Master wrote:The best way to do this is offer a general tool that cost high amounts of isk to block out the district for a day. To limit any possible abuse, have a cool down period. Story wise it could be paying Concord to protect that district for 24hrs? CCP could expand that functionality then to offer a cheaper rate on world wide holiday / holiday that the community votes on. #justideas Thread is now full of win.
VR"s birthday as a sanctioned NEW EDEN HOLIDAY? best tribute i can think of |
Biven Gumbo
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2013.05.23 18:26:00 -
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If given the opportunity, I'd schedule a battle for New Year's Eve, a kid's birthday party or your grandma's funeral. Seems that anything goes in New Eden.
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Geirskoegul
Soul-Strike
136
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Posted - 2013.05.23 18:57:00 -
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Just another post saying absolutely NO to this idiotic, carebare bullshit.
Don't wanna play? That's your choice; take it back in the morning, if you can. Timing your assaults is very much part of the metagame, and that's why things like RF timers and strontium clathrates exist: to help get you a fight when you can defend, but not guarantee everything on your terms.
Contrary to what's asked for hear, holidays tend to be PEAKS for gaming, because we have the free time TO game (especially in the US, known for almost no holidays that get you out of work, and where two weeks vacation per year is seen as insanely awesome; compare with the rest of the developed world where almost a month per year is standard).
There's nothing more to see here, folks; if you want safety, go play some Call of Halo or whatever the piece of **** shooter du jour is; this is New Eden. If you want in on the part of the game with consequences involved, accept the consequences. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4589
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:11:00 -
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I think its rather funny that there are people who are dellusional enough thinking that a steep price is going to prevent abuse and help the 'smaller corp' out when it will only be uitliitzed by the far more organized and larger corp to prevent smaller corps from EVER getting it.
As it stands now what would you spend your excessive isk on? |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
610
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:15:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote:Just another post saying absolutely NO to this idiotic, carebare bullshit.
Don't wanna play? That's your choice; take it back in the morning, if you can. Timing your assaults is very much part of the metagame, and that's why things like RF timers and strontium clathrates exist: to help get you a fight when you can defend, but not guarantee everything on your terms.
Contrary to what's asked for hear, holidays tend to be PEAKS for gaming, because we have the free time TO game (especially in the US, known for almost no holidays that get you out of work, and where two weeks vacation per year is seen as insanely awesome; compare with the rest of the developed world where almost a month per year is standard).
There's nothing more to see here, folks; if you want safety, go play some Call of Halo or whatever the piece of **** shooter du jour is; this is New Eden. If you want in on the part of the game with consequences involved, accept the consequences.
I want my gaming life to be my Life, RAWR eff u real world how dare you get in the way. How dare you try to get me to step out out of my basement and welp take a shower.
Yea on reflection i simply decided while the idea is a nice one you dont need a mechanic to do it for u the gameplay already allows for it.
Simply use an alt or an alliance corp to lock down ur territories or change the timers to limit attack. OR if it is a small break of less than 2 days simply switch the infrastructure to a cargo hold so the district cant flip without 3 attacks.
So while i understand Nocs point i dont think anyone should be able to take a month away from game and still have their stuff, the mechanic you propose also agree with my notion since -80 clones/day or whatever would still bleed the district just at a slower pace. (i know you liken it to autocannon defenses and perhaps thats a future infrastructure you can change it to that limits clone losses from a MCC destruction but lowers the number of clone reserves on the planet) But the methods to make it happen are already in the game just requires a bit of forethought and some isk commitment to make it happen. |
Geirskoegul
Soul-Strike
137
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I think its rather funny that there are people who are dellusional enough thinking that a steep price is going to prevent abuse and help the 'smaller corp' out when it will only be uitliitzed by the far more organized and larger corp to prevent smaller corps from EVER getting it.
As it stands now what would you spend your excessive isk on? Never mind the fact that once the economies are completely linked (EVE indies build the **** bought on Dust, ISK transfers between games are enabled; AS IS PLANNED) then isk costs go out the window in terms of importance. Do I give a **** when I lose my faction-fit megathron? No. Do I give a **** when I lose my officer-fit mothership? NO! Why? Because I have indie alts to pay for my pew. Money will never be a limiting factor, it's simply too easy to acquire. Even Dust itself will be getting PvE content to farm to your heart's content. |
Talryn Vilneram
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
27
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:19:00 -
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One of the best things I had experienced in EVE is when we (Pandemic Legion) forced Against All Authorities to rep thier POSes on Christmas eve.
HTFU |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
319
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:24:00 -
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Good idea. For all the EVE players whining... Dust is it's own game, it might have the same plot, though game play is definitely different.
Different game, different rules. |
Natu Nobilis
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
312
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:28:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Good idea. For all the EVE players whining... Dust is it's own game, it might have the same plot, though game play is definitely different.
Different game, different rules.
Different rules like non-persistent universe, non-perishable equipment, no skilltree, and things like that?
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Geirskoegul
Soul-Strike
138
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:30:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Good idea. For all the EVE players whining... Dust is it's own game, it might have the same plot, though game play is definitely different.
Different game, different rules. One Universe: One War. HTFU.
Stick to Call of Halo or whatever if you want safety, or just don't involve yourself in Planetary Conquest, the primarily EVE Online aspect of this EVE Universe game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
Scan Sweep
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
14
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:34:00 -
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To OP: NO!
Just deal with the consequences of the decisions you make. That's how the Universe of New Eden has been working ever since and will be until the end. New Eden is real.
And NO - this is no game. According to CCP New Eden is a SciFi Simulation.
For most of us New Eden is a commitment. And we love this universe as it is and for what exactly it is. A living world where our actions aren't just switches for scripts and predefined algorithms but are meaningful and real.
Stick to this game for more than a couple of months, see it growing, feelt it evolving; stick to your corporation and experience losses and success alike live with your fellow battle buddies and as soon as you try to go back to other games you will most likely notice that all those other games out there have become meaningless and empty. |
Aeon Amadi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1364
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:35:00 -
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No.
I had to log on for my Birthday to fight a war in Eve Online. I had to log on for Christmas to fight a war in Eve Online. I had to log on for the Fourth of July to fight a war in Eve Online.
I EXPECT to have to log on for holidays to fight a war in Dust 514.
Why? Because the enemy does not give a flying **** about your holidays. You'll learn that if you ever fight any alliance with Russians.
And so help me god if CCP caters to this kind of bullshit, I will personally start the Jita Riot to tear Dust 514 down. |
Aeon Amadi
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1364
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I think its rather funny that there are people who are dellusional enough thinking that a steep price is going to prevent abuse and help the 'smaller corp' out when it will only be uitliitzed by the far more organized and larger corp to prevent smaller corps from EVER getting it.
As it stands now what would you spend your excessive isk on?
ISK isn't a problem for me, atm. I'm stable running the best gear I can field.
Now, if I had stockpile of Aurum however... It'd be a different story... |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1639
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:40:00 -
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Setaceous Prime wrote:Nope. HTFU.
Looks like it's 2:1 against your callousness. Perhaps you should HTFU and accept players want lives outside of the game. |
Xender17
Murderz for hire
92
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:42:00 -
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Haa doesn't affect me! |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
437
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:43:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I think its rather funny that there are people who are dellusional enough thinking that a steep price is going to prevent abuse and help the 'smaller corp' out when it will only be uitliitzed by the far more organized and larger corp to prevent smaller corps from EVER getting it.
As it stands now what would you spend your excessive isk on?
I spend my extra Isk on booze, drugs and prosti... umm.. I mean I generously donate my extra funds to my corp mates to help them stay equipped with the best gear. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4590
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:44:00 -
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Except if you use aurum, it would then turn it into true pay to win.
The best solution for this is merc marketplace where people can sell themselves available and corps can build a roster of trusted and untrusted clients. Then use collateral to help prevent 'throwing' the match costing the failure more than the territory is worth. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
504
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:44:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Setaceous Prime wrote:Nope. HTFU. Looks like it's 2:1 against your callousness. Perhaps you should HTFU and accept players want lives outside of the game.
I beg to differ.
perhaps you shouldn't play a game you don't want to play. Or at least don't jump in the deep end and complain that it's deep. |
Talryn Vilneram
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
29
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:05:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Setaceous Prime wrote:Nope. HTFU. Looks like it's 2:1 against your callousness. Perhaps you should HTFU and accept players want lives outside of the game.
Nope. Go play CoD or HTFU. This is DUST and having stuff vulnerable on holidays is part of what makes this game the most ruthless, hardcore FPS game on the market. Just like EVE is for an MMO. |
hydraSlav's
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
150
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:07:00 -
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Welcome to New Eden
Played EvE and POS warfare? |
bill the noon
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:19:00 -
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Since holidays are different around the world.... and why have less to do in a video game when people have free time sewms like the opposite of what should happen. |
Furrow33
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:26:00 -
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Back in my day ccp shut down dust every day except Friday Saturday and sunday or something like that Im too old to remember. But I remember we didn't like it very much. Then they opened it up to 7 days a week and we said
Also we had to walk uphill to school, both ways, in a blizzard. In the desert. Raining. With no socks on. |
GLiMPSE X
Gigolos of the Interwebz
67
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Except if you use aurum, it would then turn it into true pay to win.
The best solution for this is merc marketplace where people can sell themselves available and corps can build a roster of trusted and untrusted clients. Then use collateral to help prevent 'throwing' the match costing the failure more than the territory is worth.
or you implement a contract system similar to eve but the payout is contingent on completing x (attacking and killing x clones, defending and only losing x clones). You'll need to pay well for this but for some the money would be worth it the risk on both sides.
This same system could carry over into mercenary contracts for other pieces of the game. |
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