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Synthetic Surrogate
Venilen Eugenics Agency
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Posted - 2013.05.23 00:29:00 -
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My point is that the overall value of a scout is a tough thing to see when you are focused on winning matches. If a scout's entire resume is "I get you orbital strikes 11% faster, while dying if someone breathes on me firmly.", many squad leaders are going to wish they just had another solid logi with hacking boosters getting those points for them. Plus, if you go back and read my response, you'll see that I am not actually slamming on scouts, but asking for clarification on how an orbital getting lets say 5 to 10 kills per match is somehow better than a good gunner of any stripe.
I am joining WAY late in the conversation, but here is my analysis of the above.
More specifically this point below.
Quote:asking for clarification on how an orbital getting lets say 5 to 10 kills per match is somehow better than a good gunner of any stripe
In its most basic form an orbital = War Points.
In matches such as Skirmish, the more WP the team gets the "better" they are doing. Even more so when it comes to such things as protecting/hacking objectives.
So perhaps it is not the 5 to 10 kills per match that the orbital provides that we should be looking at, but simply the "fact" that they are gaining WP 11% faster by doing their job properly.
If we assume the team with the most WP will win the match on a whole, the team being able to gain those WP at a rate that is 11% faster than the other team "should" give them a better chance of winning that match.
Even more so if we assume those points were gained from hacking objectives (etc), because of how impotant damage over time is in those game modes; as opposed to blowing up cars, getting kills, or healing people.
Just another way of looking at it.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.23 00:33:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:*cough*cloaking!*cough*
Cloaking will be an all suit thing, not just scouts. |
Delirium Inferno
Edoras Corporation
360
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Posted - 2013.05.23 01:13:00 -
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Went half Scout and half Logi with Uprising, but pretty set on going full out Scout with the respec. Like the OP I know I can do better with the logi, but I choose scout anyways. I guess since I know this is the last respec we'll likely ever get I'm just hopeful that the scout will one day be a viable option in competitive play.
Liu Kaizong wrote:I miss the two equipment slots on my Scout suit :(
Same. I always carry uplinks with my scout, that's not debatable for me, however I'd like to carry just one more item like in Chromosome. I'd gladly trade a weapon too, since at the moment I run a Shotgun/Flaylock combo but hardly ever use the shotgun. |
SoCal Ninja
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
28
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Posted - 2013.05.23 04:20:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Went half Scout and half Logi with Uprising, but pretty set on going full out Scout with the respec. Like the OP I know I can do better with the logi, but I choose scout anyways. I guess since I know this is the last respec we'll likely ever get I'm just hopeful that the scout will one day be a viable option in competitive play. Liu Kaizong wrote:I miss the two equipment slots on my Scout suit :( Same. I always carry uplinks with my scout, that's not debatable for me, however I'd like to carry just one more item like in Chromosome. I'd gladly trade a weapon too, since at the moment I run a Shotgun/Flaylock combo but hardly ever use the shotgun.
Yup, until the scout has its day I'll keep smacking my head against a wall fighting shield stacked logis with TARs that rip me apart as a logi speeds past me with extra HP and equipment, using quad catalyzers. |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.23 05:06:00 -
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I ,too, chose to be a scout (well, a Minmatar light frame, as I have no SP, having only been around for under a week). But I chose it due to the fact that the minmatar medium-style frame looks awful, and the light suit design looks quite nice. Terrible reason to pick the dropsuit, I know, but I do well enough (unless I'm up against a team full of vets, then I'm relegated to dying repeatedly).
My biggest gripe as of now is that my Advanced light frame is lacking in CPU&PG, and for some reason, it feels like I'm missing a low slot or something. Light dropsuits are definitely in need of some love. |
Exmaple Core
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.23 05:25:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Because I'm nuts.
Or hopeful.
Or just stupid.
Logi suits are better than scout in every conceivable way. I would do much better in a logi suit, yet I actively am choosing to not spec into FoTM. May the SG give me strength and I pray for all the brave souls who do as I do. I can only hope that one day scouts find a purpose.
Goodbye HP, I knew thee well.
its not a bad suit! enjoy it it gets results in pubs and PC with a shotty. but yeah i did scout cuz its not mainstream tooo
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SoCal Ninja
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.23 09:59:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:
its not a bad suit! enjoy it it gets results in pubs and PC with a shotty. but yeah i did scout cuz its not mainstream tooo
My thoughts are that it's not a bad suit. I mean I've been scout since I got my E3 closed beta invite, I don't have a problem putting up some numbers, but what I do have a problem with is that just by comparing the stats I could be far more effective as a Logi roleplaying as a Scout.
Alas... welcome to "ARLogi514 - One Playstyle // One Way" |
recons283
Tok'Ra.
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:26:00 -
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I am Consciously choosing Logi over Scout |
Nonya Bizznizz
DUST University
Ivy League
10
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:27:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Because I'm nuts.
Or hopeful.
Or just stupid.
Logi suits are better than scout in every conceivable way. I would do much better in a logi suit, yet I actively am choosing to not spec into FoTM. May the SG give me strength and I pray for all the brave souls who do as I do. I can only hope that one day scouts find a purpose.
Goodbye HP, I knew thee well.
FoTM? Try Flavor of The Past 5 Months.
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