Any AR can kill you in .5 if all shots hit you. You are just lucky the dude wasnt using a scrambler pistol. 1-2 head shots and you are done-zo.

Correct all TARs are overpowered hence why it's the only gun anybody is using

Go ahead try and argue its not

You shouldn't restrict the gear people can wear because they don't meet your SP requirements. I've got 7mil SP and I've got proto gear, NVM can only wear ADV gear what a waste.

Yeah, skills and certain armor modules provide much more of an advantage than weapons. Weapon balance is something that is over-rated in these forums. Look at the difference in damage between militia and proto weapons, it isnt much. You dont gain THAT much from upgrading to a duvoulle at all.

Certain advantages are big though, upgrading the mass driver or forge to increase splash is huge, upgrading to the TAR or the Duvoule TAR for added range is huge. But the damage? Its relatively negliable. In a lot of cases it doesnt even change the time to kill at all.

Now, being able to increase tank, or speed, or reduce kick etc all actually make a much bigger impact then doing 5-10% more damage since most guns kill very quickly if your shots land.

jesus christ...

use militia ar. kill nerds. they whine. guns nerfed.


use glue gun. kill nerds. they whine. incoming nerf.


you guys want PvE so bad just so you don't get killed and i swear to god...

the AI is gonna redline you.

and you're gonna ask for nerfs

Peace
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CQC I'll take a MD over a TAR any day of the week.

It's only overpowered because the hipfire accuracy is too high. it should really have close to zero accuracy when hipfired.

I would also suggest lowering the ammo per magazine, upping the reload time, an ADS delay on par with the HMG or sniper rifle, and applying a hard refire time to prevent exploitation.

I don't know why I bother making reasonable suggestions when I know full well they're just going to nerf the thing into the ground and make it completely useless.

I'm sorry that you feel that way. Why not try it out yourself? If it is so OP why are you not using it? The kick from it at base level skills to use it is still significant and the supporting skills that can be trained up to level 5 also give the weapon a good advantage over a standard assault rifle but if you play a few matches where everyone seems to be using scrambler rifles and hitting people at the same ranges of a TAC you will see it is by far not OP. It could also use a bit more range on it as the scope can pick people out at a good distance but often if you are trying to hit them the red dot will not show up until they are already hitting you. This is because there are now quite a few people using scrambler rifles the way they were using the TAR. It has a much higher ROF and can very quickly get the best of most TAR users from outside their range.

I'm starting to get weirded out by how reasonable most of the Imps are regarding this issue.

It's because, although you are all trash players who should probably just delete dust from your PS3 before you chain it to your car and drag it through the street, we still want the illusion that the game is fun and competitive for everyone before we take everything you hold dear and ruin the experience for you.

You shouldn't restrict the gear people can wear because they don't meet your SP requirements. I've got 7mil SP and I've got proto gear, NVM can only wear ADV gear what a waste.

Correct all TARs are overpowered hence why it's the only gun anybody is using

Go ahead try and argue its not

refer to post #5

EDIT: After referring to post #5 go back and read the entire OP.

I'm sorry that you feel that way. Why not try it out yourself? If it is so OP why are you not using it? The kick from it at base level skills to use it is still significant and the supporting skills that can be trained up to level 5 also give the weapon a good advantage over a standard assault rifle but if you play a few matches where everyone seems to be using scrambler rifles and hitting people at the same ranges of a TAC you will see it is by far not OP. It could also use a bit more range on it as the scope can pick people out at a good distance but often if you are trying to hit them the red dot will not show up until they are already hitting you. This is because there are now quite a few people using scrambler rifles the way they were using the TAR. It has a much higher ROF and can very quickly get the best of most TAR users from outside their range.

No. I refuse...

Ok, I did. and you're sort of right but sort of wrong. The tac rifle is supposed to be a sniper/AR hybrid, not a high capacity pistol.
It should have a unique place on the battle field that caters to a certain playstyle and you do that by keeping the thing that makes it great, Long range/high damage, and getting rid of everything else.

I would agree when it is used against players of a comparable SP and Gear level.

The problem I'm noticing is that when these higher tier weapons are used against lower tier players, the lower tier players feel like they are OP and need to be nerfed because they are not equipped with the core skills and the gear to defend against/counter the higher tier players and their better equipment.

Maybe you shouldn't have used the most obviously OP weapon currently in the game as your example, then. I can OHK militia suits with my Flaylock, but there aren't a lot of 'ZOMG Flaylock is OP' threads because those deaths are a drop in the bucket by comparison. (It's not just that Tacs are OP; they are also crazy popular on the battlefield.)