Fear of the TAC Is a result of crap players who are carried by their SP/gear and fear that newer players have a weapon that can match them.

My vote is no NERF....work on content instead CCP

The nerf threads are starting to calm down a bit now that the initial panic is wearing off. Some folks are actually adapting.

Weren't you one of the people QQing about the removal of SS? Now you're clutching onto another game breaking toy while pointing the finger at player skill? That thing needs to be rebalanced and if you don't like how they do rebalance it, you got 3 other ARs to choose from. Right now, the TAR does what all the other ones do, and it shouldn't be like that.

Have you ever used a Tac AR? Have you ever used other weaponry outside of the AR family tree?

If you can answer both questions with "yes", you must think they need to be re-balanced or you're clearly insane.


Are you even aware that the Tac AR used to have a cap on its rate of fire AND far less damage in the last build and that's why it was probably never used in Chromosome? But yes, they should be working on content. And placing a simple cap (not as extreme as in the last build to make it useless compared to other ARs) on the firing rate of Tac ARs.

The irony is that the TAC always existed. It only came into peoples view after the AR range was nerfed. Are the "carried" going to cry about every weapon until they are all nerfed? Learn to take cover scrubs.....a crate has infinite health...far more then your 500 shields and 300 armor.

TAR is fine.
Take a look at Semi-Auto SR, its just tears up shields for 160+ dmg/shot.
Modded controllers - that should be changed (speed cap).

Yet 90% of tac AR players are the "leet" players like the imps and the bunnies.

Like people aren't using modded controllers for the TAR? I smell double standards...
Also, the SR has a damage bonus to shields, so it's working as intended.

Like people aren't using modded controllers for the TAR? I smell double standards...
Also, the SR has a damage bonus to shields, so it's working as intended.

I don't use a TAC i use a standard Gek.

And as a new player i have sh*t for armor and get killed by everything. The fear i am talking about is a weapon that kill you regardless of what armor you have....regardless if you are use to being carried by your 700 health.

That s why people want it nerfed. Not for balance, not for mmo, not for "oh noz a CoD clone.

It is ***** ass fear of being beat by a better player.

running mid field screaming "i am here, headshotmeplease".

I don't use a TAC i use a standard Gek.

And as a new player i have sh*t for armor and get killed by everything. The fear i am talking about is a weapon that kill you regardless of what armor you have....regardless if you are use to being carried by your 700 health.

That s why people want it nerfed. Not for balance, not for mmo, not for "oh noz a CoD clone.

It is ***** ass fear of being beat by a better player.

Have you ever used a Tac AR? Have you ever used other weaponry outside of the AR family tree?

If you can answer both questions with "yes", you must think they need to be re-balanced or you're clearly insane.


Are you even aware that the Tac AR used to have a cap on its rate of fire AND far less damage in the last build and that's why it was probably never used in Chromosome? But yes, they should be working on content. And placing a simple cap (not as extreme as in the last build to make it useless compared to other ARs) on the firing rate of Tac ARs.

Thats what i am talking about, modded controller has to be fixed.
SR working as intended - killing proto shield tank in 2-3 shots, i'm fine with that, TAR is also fine - killing anyone with 4-5 shots.
There should be more options for Assault Rifle tbh, like Gallente/Matari ones - Gauss Assault Rifle / Precission Assault Rifle (spelling?).
I am pretty sure many people will switch to other variants when they are out, like they did with SR.
Also, FA and SA variants of rifles are equal to me, TAR/SR is not that versatile as FA variants, just hold a button & win.

the gun is broken, the guy that balanced this gun is fcuking dodo bird.

there is not a gun that competes with it, and dont say the CSR, because youre in fcuking denial.
the only time a CSR stands a chance vs a TAR is at Op range(mid-range) with cover. which is an EVEN run.

out in the open(which is 90% of the maps) or CQC, CSR user is slayed. TAR users can continue firing 30 round while a CSR has to stop firing after 9 rounds, or 3 if you attempted a charge shot( unless your a vet Amarr assault.) if you mess up and overheat, guess what? "Vin Vicious has committed suicide". TAR users also have a far greater zoom over a CSR.

currently the TAR has NO drawback and NO disadvantage the recoil is a joke the only time it gives you trouble is during movement but is controllable with aim assist on

EVERY GUN HAS A DISADVANTAGE BUT THIS ONE,
End of discussion.

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lol people still defending this gun.

Nothing wrong with a Semi Auto with a ROF faster than a fully auto AR right?

Nothing wrong with hip fire being more accurate than the fully auto AR right?

Nothing wrong that it out DPS an HMG right?

Nah man, the gun is fine

I say keep the damage, lower the ROF to ~the same as the breach, add 15% more zoom on the scope, lower the max ammunition to half of the standard AR, and give it hipfire accuracy comparable to a sniper rifle. It's not a nerf, just a rebalance.

rebalancing the gun is tricky.

Your suggestion is basically making it a Battle Rifle, or a semi auto sniper rifle.

The gun should be balanced in a way where players have to choose range or damage..Tact. AR or fully auto AR. Currently the gun has range and DMG.

How CCP should go about this is debatable, but one thing is for sure, the gun is stupidly balanced atm.

This is why I've been saying it needs to have it's own weapon line like the Caldari gauss rifle. Fixing it to fit into a mid range, high damage category makes things too complicated.

That s why people want it nerfed. Not for balance, not for mmo, not for "oh noz a CoD clone.

It is ***** ass fear of being beat by a better player.