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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.26 15:44:00 -
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_____________________________________________ Shotgunner Wonders, Often While Raging ... _____________________________________________
At 3 meters, why is this scoped weapon so much more effective than a shotgun?
_____________________________________________ Shotgunner Reflects, Enlightened by this Thread ... _____________________________________________
The TAR must attract only highly skilled players, and only highly skilled players use the TAR.
This talent paradigm explains the TAR-Wars observed in every PC match.
_____________________________________________ Shotgunner Sighs ... _____________________________________________
Someday, I'll too be talented enough to use a scoped weapon at 3 meters.
I just hope CCP lets me use this nifty controller. The box says its specifically modded to better support by "leet" CQC skills. |
TBdaBoss
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
5
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:17:00 -
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The hipfire accuracy is the only legitimate problem with this gun. It's easy to use in CQC, and it shouldn't be. Nerf the hipfire to the point of shooting sideways, for all I care; that's not what the gun is for. At range, it performs fine. Damage is to be expected form a TAC rifle. It takes 5-6 shots to take out an average soldier, more if they are tanking. RoF is fine because recoil gets difficult to control if you spam the trigger in scope, and hitting your target becomes a challenge. Either way, that can be decreased, too. The range could stand an increase. Ammo can be decreased by 15-20%.
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:rebalancing the gun is tricky.
Your suggestion is basically making it a Battle Rifle, or a semi auto sniper rifle.
The gun should be balanced in a way where players have to choose range or damage..Tact. AR or fully auto AR. Currently the gun has range and DMG.
How CCP should go about this is debatable, but one thing is for sure, the gun is stupidly balanced atm. It is a Battle Rifle. |
J'Hiera
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:58:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Full Metal Kitten wrote:The nerf threads are starting to calm down a bit now that the initial panic is wearing off. Some folks are actually adapting. The irony is that the TAC always existed. It only came into peoples view after the AR range was nerfed. Are the "carried" going to cry about every weapon until they are all nerfed? Learn to take cover scrubs.....a crate has infinite health...far more then your 500 shields and 300 armor.
I slightly remember a small delay per shot fired, while it seems to fire as fast as you can mash the button now. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2013.05.26 18:09:00 -
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F'ING CALLED IT!
When I first made a thread about it, when the build was still fresh, everyone said "nah, you're just a noob, this gun is fine". Now look at what's going on.
I'm starting to think I should be in charge of game balance. Or at least gun balance. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
597
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Posted - 2013.05.26 18:19:00 -
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I have TACaPhobia |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.26 18:26:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:I have TACaPhobia TACTIPhobia. TACTOPhobia. So many to choose from! |
Synthetic Perception
Venilen Eugenics Agency
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Posted - 2013.05.26 18:55:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Full Metal Kitten wrote:The nerf threads are starting to calm down a bit now that the initial panic is wearing off. Some folks are actually adapting. The irony is that the TAC always existed. It only came into peoples view after the AR range was nerfed.
It is even more ironic that actual ecoil and a slower ROF always exsisted prior to uprising but are no where to be seen now. Also the former "TAC AR" was not better then an SMG at CQC.
People are using the TAC like a normal assault rifle charging with it and then using like an SMG and hip fire when in close. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
476
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:13:00 -
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hooc order wrote:gbghg wrote:Yet 90% of tac AR players are the "leet" players like the imps and the bunnies. I see you put quotes around the "leet". Think about that...are they "leet" or are they "carried"? They're leet compared to you. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:14:00 -
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If anything they should make the cross hairs for he tac freaskly huge to discuorge it's useage CQC wise. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:48:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Full Metal Kitten wrote:The nerf threads are starting to calm down a bit now that the initial panic is wearing off. Some folks are actually adapting. The irony is that the TAC always existed. It only came into peoples view after the AR range was nerfed. Are the "carried" going to cry about every weapon until they are all nerfed? Learn to take cover scrubs.....a crate has infinite health...far more then your 500 shields and 300 armor. Didn't the TAC also recieve a massive damage boost and recoil reduction with Uprising?
Because I'm pretty sure that's what screwed everything up. |
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:50:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Yet 90% of tac AR players are the "leet" players like the imps and the bunnies.
Just not me |
TBdaBoss
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:54:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:I have TACaPhobia TACTIPhobia. TACTOPhobia. So many to choose from! TACaPhobia -- TAC.a.Pho.bia noun : an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of moderately above average rifles |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:56:00 -
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TBdaBoss wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:I have TACaPhobia TACTIPhobia. TACTOPhobia. So many to choose from! TACaPhobia -- TAC.a.Pho.bia noun : an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of moderately above average rifles
Moderately above average? TAC AR is by far the best weapon in the game right now, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
463
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:00:00 -
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The blatant arrogance in your OP is astounding. |
limit rush
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:04:00 -
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It all really doesnt matter. When the tac gets nerfed all the elite players will move on to the next op weapon. And if it is a proto weapon it should destroy u and your adv and standard gear. Stop complaining and wanting instant fixes and run with a sqaud. The tac can only shoot 1 person at a time |
kenderr cillo
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
14
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:09:00 -
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10% less damage Less ROF more CPU and RA cost than a assault AR |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
463
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:14:00 -
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limit rush wrote:It all really doesnt matter. When the tac gets nerfed all the elite players will move on to the next op weapon. And if it is a proto weapon it should destroy u and your adv and standard gear. Stop complaining and wanting instant fixes and run with a sqaud. The tac can only shoot 1 person at a time See, the thing you're missing it that this isn't JUST about The Duovolle Tac, the GLU Tac is being used almost as much. The only Tac rifle that isn't being used (not that i've seen any way) is the Standard. |
limit rush
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:58:00 -
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They are its play style. Im full prof on ar. And prof 2 on sr. If it wasnt for heavies id use sr more. But u all can cry and complain all day and night. But ccp has seen your 80 threads and will make adjustment according to there plan. Whatever wespon is flavor of the build will get used. U can full spec into any weapon in 3 weeks. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:17:00 -
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pathetic trolling thread. OP using backward logic of saying that TAR is not OP it's just strong enough to dominate everything in the game and therefore favors ppl with skill as they would be the ones to dominate even more with it. it's funny how ppl are not embarrassed to post idiotic stuff like this. i guess it does not matter since it's all just for lols. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1788
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:50:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:gbghg wrote:Yet 90% of tac AR players are the "leet" players like the imps and the bunnies. Just not me
I think I may go AR when the reset happens |
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DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:59:00 -
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peepz who complain about guns and ask for nerfs are just too stupid or lazy to figure out a way to counter the weapon.
Stop being lazy and start thinking up of ways to counter the TACtics your enemy use against you. |
TBdaBoss
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:08:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:TBdaBoss wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:I have TACaPhobia TACTIPhobia. TACTOPhobia. So many to choose from! TACaPhobia -- TAC.a.Pho.bia noun : an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of moderately above average rifles Moderately above average? TAC AR is by far the best weapon in the game right now, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. You wanna know how to balance the TAC? Nerf the hipfire accuracy. Done. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1788
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:09:00 -
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DRE PrEaCh wrote:peepz who complain about guns and ask for nerfs are just too stupid or lazy to figure out a way to counter the weapon.
Stop being lazy and start thinking up of ways to counter the TACtics your enemy use against you.
Use a Tact to counter the Tact |
DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
0
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:46:00 -
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that's what i did :D |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:53:00 -
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Lack of disadvantage isn't a problem. A jack of all trades gun is a dece t weapon. Problem is it is jack of all, master of mid-long range. |
iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
68
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:56:00 -
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it is sad how OP these guns are
sad how many are using mod controllers with them
sad us Heavies can't get sharpshooter back to counter them
sad the top corp use these nooby guns just so they can get cheap kills and stay on top the leaderboard |
iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
68
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:57:00 -
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TBdaBoss wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:TBdaBoss wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:I have TACaPhobia TACTIPhobia. TACTOPhobia. So many to choose from! TACaPhobia -- TAC.a.Pho.bia noun : an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of moderately above average rifles Moderately above average? TAC AR is by far the best weapon in the game right now, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. You wanna know how to balance the TAC? Nerf the hipfire accuracy. Done.
AMEN 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% agree with this
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1790
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Posted - 2013.05.27 03:27:00 -
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iLLMaTiC619 wrote:it is sad how OP these guns are
sad how many are using mod controllers with them
sad us Heavies can't get sharpshooter back to counter them
sad the top corp use these nooby guns just so they can get cheap kills and stay on top the leaderboard
Your a heavy I like you, I'm staying heavy |
jin foxdale
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.27 03:31:00 -
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I've been singing the thread title to the tune of Iron Maidens "Fear of the Dark" for about an hour now - I have a constant fear the TAC is always near! |
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