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DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:21:00 -
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Scan Sweep wrote:I feel exactly the same right now. I just dropped out of the academy yesterday. Until that time those battles were fun, extremely well balanced and constantly waving back and forth. I really liked it. But this changed immediatly after dropping out of the academy and jumping into any of the public matches. Protos, Protos, Protos. One slaughter party after another. Six matches and not one single kill! Even though I really had taken care of choosing the right skills in order to get better equipment, by the time I joined the public matches DUST just wasn't fun any longer. If my friends asked me if DUST was worth being played I had to say: Absolutely no! This has nothing to do with the game itself but with the fact that it's completely overrun by all the veterans who are now hunting the random goups. The only way to avoid that: AFKing! Seriously. With the current state of the game there is literally no other chance to compete against all those Protos than hiding or AFKing. Right now there is absolutely no point in fighting or even investing in anything else than Militia or Proto gear. Everything else in between is a complete waste of ISK. There are already three of my friends who guit after they were constantly being farmed for two days by the veterans. CCP tried to transfer the idea of personal skill being more important than equipment and skills from EVE to DUST but this just doesn't seem to work at all for a FPS shooter. Never the less, until a matchmaking system is implemented and working this game will lose a lot of new and potential players due to being one of the worst new player experiences out there so far. And until that hiding & AFKing will be king for new players. To be clear: I don't have anything against the veterans and their proto gear in person. They also can't choose their opponents. They are also restricted by the actual game mechanics. I'm against the current status quo of the game and the fact that these problems even exist after the game was launched. But unfortunately this game is very very far from being finished.
this is true for noobs we veterans should strive to stick to FW and Domination we should let the noobs play Ambush, OMS and Skirmish
All pub stomping does is prevent new people from enjoying this game. I love this game and the more people play this game the more successful this game can become so if you truly like this game and want it to be here ten years from now running on playstation 5 so stop pub stomping and for the record I am not a noob |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:23:00 -
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Creating a thread about it will only bring replies like "delicious tears" or "HTFU".
This is an internet forum. Kindness has no place here. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
319
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:24:00 -
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I have read enough CPM posts to conclude how'd they respond: It's a part of the game get used to it. As long as CCP has done nothing to stop it there is no reason to cry about it. All broken aspects of the game should be considered META and not just terrible planning by CCP. |
General John Ripper
187. Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:25:00 -
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I kinda like pubstomping noobs. |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:26:00 -
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I still die to militia suits in my proto :\ |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:27:00 -
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I don't know why people thought a new mode would instantly stop pubstomping. The only way to stop pubstomping is to fix the pub matches themselves. |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:28:00 -
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I am personally not crying about it i have read enough forums to know that if ccp cant or wont fix something we as gamers should have a gentleman's agreement to do this. I am not stupid I know i am looking and asking for something that won't happen but hey I have to try. After all a closed mouth doesn't get fed |
General John Ripper
187. Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:29:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I still die to militia suits in my proto :\
I do too. Sometimes 2-3 militia suits surround me and purposely try to shoot me from two directions so I could only really see one of them at a time. Strategy can really get the better of a protosuit. |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
172
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:31:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:All broken aspects of the game should be considered META and not just terrible planning by CCP.
Love it... that is exactly what the fanbois are saying. I wish this forum had a signature feature... |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:31:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:I don't know why people thought a new mode would instantly stop pubstomping. The only way to stop pubstomping is to fix the pub matches themselves. You know what the sad thing is?
We'll see QQ and rage threads if they implement more matchmaking restrictions. How do you think the pubstompers will react when their mostly risk-free source of income and tears is taken away from them? |
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Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:32:00 -
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I made a new toon and I gotta say, those Academy battle was by far the most fun I had in awhile. |
Boxoffire
Lost-Legion Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:33:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:I kinda like pubstomping noobs. I think it makes the game boring and dull. What's he fun of just waiting by the redline for them to spawn. I wanna run around hack things, heal and revive teammates. |
Mobias Wyvern
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:21:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:27:00 -
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Mobias Wyvern wrote:Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year DUST |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:59:00 -
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How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind. |
GLiMPSE X
Internal Error. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:03:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind.
Same could be said for these complaining. it doesnt take a lot of sp to get into adv gear and it's not that expensive to run.
I compete just fine against proto fits in an adv suit. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:14:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind. I run pub games with adv suits, the only proto mods are shields and those don't take too long to get. If I run into proto squads when solo, just stick with teammates and focus fire
it's not the suits is the player and their tactics IMO |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:18:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:hackerzilla wrote:How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind. I run pub games with adv suits, the only proto mods are shields and those don't take too long to get. If I run into proto squads when solo, just stick with teammates and focus fire it's not the suits is the player and their tactics IMO Wait that would mean he would have to use team work. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:20:00 -
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Protos and Murder Taxis in pub matches. It is even more so now because of the triple SP bonus. If noobs organized and actually used the Warbarge as it is intended to, then maybe the problem would lessen. I think the Academy should be extended. Jumping out of the academy hasn't taught the noob anything by the time he's ready to go to pub matches. he is highly disorganized, don't squad up, don't know what a precision strike is, and still doesn't wait for a medic to be revived-the noob needs more information as to be prepared for the possible onslaught that awaits them. It's only mentioned once in that training video ("As good as you are, you will die").
We have to keep in mind that these are people coming from other shooters so they are approaching it with tactics of another shooter. Meanwhile the other team has better equipment but the real problem is that they are highly organized. Noobs are all spread out trying to fight wars on their own. Just from my own experience when I was noobing, it took myself and my love of the lore, to convince myself to return. I was getting my armored buttocks handed to me in pub matches. And you know what was crazy about all of that? I was ignorant to fittings, squads, precision strikes and how to use them, squad leader commands, and so forth. By the time I got to the pub match, I still had no clue compared to the wealth of information I learned over time. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:21:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:dustwaffle wrote:hackerzilla wrote:How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind. I run pub games with adv suits, the only proto mods are shields and those don't take too long to get. If I run into proto squads when solo, just stick with teammates and focus fire it's not the suits is the player and their tactics IMO Wait that would mean he would have to use team work. WHAT IS THIS TEAMWORK YOU SPEAK OF? |
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:28:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I still die to militia suits in my proto :\ 1v1? Heck no. 1v2? Heck no. 1v3? Sometimes. 1v4? Most of the times.
That's me in a proto suit vs militia suits. One or two won't drop me.
So yeah, proto suits are powerful. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:32:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Killar-12 wrote:dustwaffle wrote:hackerzilla wrote:How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind. I run pub games with adv suits, the only proto mods are shields and those don't take too long to get. If I run into proto squads when solo, just stick with teammates and focus fire it's not the suits is the player and their tactics IMO Wait that would mean he would have to use team work. WHAT IS THIS TEAMWORK YOU SPEAK OF? It must be something people in real corps understand |
Imp Smash
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:35:00 -
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I run std gear in pub matches personally. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I still die to militia suits in my proto :\ 1v1? Heck no. 1v2? Heck no. 1v3? Sometimes. 1v4? Most of the times. That's me in a proto suit vs militia suits. One or two won't drop me. I always run advanced basic gallente basic suits with either a EXO-5, GLU-5, GEK-38, or CBR-7's with a Toxin SMG,x1 Enhanced Plate, x2 Militia Armor Repper BPO's x2 Militia Shield Extender BPO's and can usually 1v1 good players1v2 average players or 1v3 bad players it's more about outsmarting your enemies. |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:50:00 -
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I play skirmish, Dom, FW. The only hope where you could get a good battle is in FW.
Instant battles have terrible matchmaking. I have never seen a good battle in IB since Uprising 1.0 |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:56:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:I play skirmish, Dom, FW. The only hope where you could get a good battle is in FW.
Instant battles have terrible matchmaking. I have never seen a good battle in IB since Uprising 1.0 Good old Corp battles were good in regards with teamwork and so are the few PC matches that occur. |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:28:00 -
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it doesn't matter what gear you run if you have certain proficiencies you have the advantage when engaging anyone with 4 million less sp than you |
A B Ablabab
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:42:00 -
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Academy is not safe. My alt was gunned down by a duvolle... In academy. It's less frequent but those people who need to absolutely have the best gear to get hard are spending their time gaming the Academy system now too. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
179
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:48:00 -
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If Faction Warfare battles populated constantly for me I would only play that. I dont like sitting there twiddling my thumbs watching "no available battles"
Besides I am a scout and not all that good so no pubstomping for me. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
151
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:59:00 -
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I think people should stop noob spamming pubs.
Did you know that every time a bell rings a noob get its wings? |
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