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DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
7
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:21:00 -
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Scan Sweep wrote:I feel exactly the same right now. I just dropped out of the academy yesterday. Until that time those battles were fun, extremely well balanced and constantly waving back and forth. I really liked it. But this changed immediatly after dropping out of the academy and jumping into any of the public matches. Protos, Protos, Protos. One slaughter party after another. Six matches and not one single kill! Even though I really had taken care of choosing the right skills in order to get better equipment, by the time I joined the public matches DUST just wasn't fun any longer. If my friends asked me if DUST was worth being played I had to say: Absolutely no! This has nothing to do with the game itself but with the fact that it's completely overrun by all the veterans who are now hunting the random goups. The only way to avoid that: AFKing! Seriously. With the current state of the game there is literally no other chance to compete against all those Protos than hiding or AFKing. Right now there is absolutely no point in fighting or even investing in anything else than Militia or Proto gear. Everything else in between is a complete waste of ISK. There are already three of my friends who guit after they were constantly being farmed for two days by the veterans. CCP tried to transfer the idea of personal skill being more important than equipment and skills from EVE to DUST but this just doesn't seem to work at all for a FPS shooter. Never the less, until a matchmaking system is implemented and working this game will lose a lot of new and potential players due to being one of the worst new player experiences out there so far. And until that hiding & AFKing will be king for new players. To be clear: I don't have anything against the veterans and their proto gear in person. They also can't choose their opponents. They are also restricted by the actual game mechanics. I'm against the current status quo of the game and the fact that these problems even exist after the game was launched. But unfortunately this game is very very far from being finished.
this is true for noobs we veterans should strive to stick to FW and Domination we should let the noobs play Ambush, OMS and Skirmish
All pub stomping does is prevent new people from enjoying this game. I love this game and the more people play this game the more successful this game can become so if you truly like this game and want it to be here ten years from now running on playstation 5 so stop pub stomping and for the record I am not a noob |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
328
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:23:00 -
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Creating a thread about it will only bring replies like "delicious tears" or "HTFU".
This is an internet forum. Kindness has no place here. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
319
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:24:00 -
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I have read enough CPM posts to conclude how'd they respond: It's a part of the game get used to it. As long as CCP has done nothing to stop it there is no reason to cry about it. All broken aspects of the game should be considered META and not just terrible planning by CCP. |
General John Ripper
187. Unclaimed.
250
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:25:00 -
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I kinda like pubstomping noobs. |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
293
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:26:00 -
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I still die to militia suits in my proto :\ |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:27:00 -
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I don't know why people thought a new mode would instantly stop pubstomping. The only way to stop pubstomping is to fix the pub matches themselves. |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
7
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:28:00 -
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I am personally not crying about it i have read enough forums to know that if ccp cant or wont fix something we as gamers should have a gentleman's agreement to do this. I am not stupid I know i am looking and asking for something that won't happen but hey I have to try. After all a closed mouth doesn't get fed |
General John Ripper
187. Unclaimed.
251
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:29:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I still die to militia suits in my proto :\
I do too. Sometimes 2-3 militia suits surround me and purposely try to shoot me from two directions so I could only really see one of them at a time. Strategy can really get the better of a protosuit. |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
172
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:31:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:All broken aspects of the game should be considered META and not just terrible planning by CCP.
Love it... that is exactly what the fanbois are saying. I wish this forum had a signature feature... |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1578
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:31:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:I don't know why people thought a new mode would instantly stop pubstomping. The only way to stop pubstomping is to fix the pub matches themselves. You know what the sad thing is?
We'll see QQ and rage threads if they implement more matchmaking restrictions. How do you think the pubstompers will react when their mostly risk-free source of income and tears is taken away from them? |
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Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
281
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:32:00 -
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I made a new toon and I gotta say, those Academy battle was by far the most fun I had in awhile. |
Boxoffire
Lost-Legion Orion Empire
62
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:33:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:I kinda like pubstomping noobs. I think it makes the game boring and dull. What's he fun of just waiting by the redline for them to spawn. I wanna run around hack things, heal and revive teammates. |
Mobias Wyvern
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:21:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
204
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:27:00 -
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Mobias Wyvern wrote:Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year DUST |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
25
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Posted - 2013.07.06 05:59:00 -
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How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind. |
GLiMPSE X
Internal Error. League of Infamy
208
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:03:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind.
Same could be said for these complaining. it doesnt take a lot of sp to get into adv gear and it's not that expensive to run.
I compete just fine against proto fits in an adv suit. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
155
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:14:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind. I run pub games with adv suits, the only proto mods are shields and those don't take too long to get. If I run into proto squads when solo, just stick with teammates and focus fire
it's not the suits is the player and their tactics IMO |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:18:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:hackerzilla wrote:How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind. I run pub games with adv suits, the only proto mods are shields and those don't take too long to get. If I run into proto squads when solo, just stick with teammates and focus fire it's not the suits is the player and their tactics IMO Wait that would mean he would have to use team work. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
88
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:20:00 -
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Protos and Murder Taxis in pub matches. It is even more so now because of the triple SP bonus. If noobs organized and actually used the Warbarge as it is intended to, then maybe the problem would lessen. I think the Academy should be extended. Jumping out of the academy hasn't taught the noob anything by the time he's ready to go to pub matches. he is highly disorganized, don't squad up, don't know what a precision strike is, and still doesn't wait for a medic to be revived-the noob needs more information as to be prepared for the possible onslaught that awaits them. It's only mentioned once in that training video ("As good as you are, you will die").
We have to keep in mind that these are people coming from other shooters so they are approaching it with tactics of another shooter. Meanwhile the other team has better equipment but the real problem is that they are highly organized. Noobs are all spread out trying to fight wars on their own. Just from my own experience when I was noobing, it took myself and my love of the lore, to convince myself to return. I was getting my armored buttocks handed to me in pub matches. And you know what was crazy about all of that? I was ignorant to fittings, squads, precision strikes and how to use them, squad leader commands, and so forth. By the time I got to the pub match, I still had no clue compared to the wealth of information I learned over time. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
156
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:21:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:dustwaffle wrote:hackerzilla wrote:How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind. I run pub games with adv suits, the only proto mods are shields and those don't take too long to get. If I run into proto squads when solo, just stick with teammates and focus fire it's not the suits is the player and their tactics IMO Wait that would mean he would have to use team work. WHAT IS THIS TEAMWORK YOU SPEAK OF? |
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1826
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:28:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I still die to militia suits in my proto :\ 1v1? Heck no. 1v2? Heck no. 1v3? Sometimes. 1v4? Most of the times.
That's me in a proto suit vs militia suits. One or two won't drop me.
So yeah, proto suits are powerful. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:32:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Killar-12 wrote:dustwaffle wrote:hackerzilla wrote:How come everyone has to oppose this guy. Step out of the proto gear for a sec and try on some ADV or dare I say militia. Seriously keep an open mind. I run pub games with adv suits, the only proto mods are shields and those don't take too long to get. If I run into proto squads when solo, just stick with teammates and focus fire it's not the suits is the player and their tactics IMO Wait that would mean he would have to use team work. WHAT IS THIS TEAMWORK YOU SPEAK OF? It must be something people in real corps understand |
Imp Smash
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
153
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:35:00 -
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I run std gear in pub matches personally. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I still die to militia suits in my proto :\ 1v1? Heck no. 1v2? Heck no. 1v3? Sometimes. 1v4? Most of the times. That's me in a proto suit vs militia suits. One or two won't drop me. I always run advanced basic gallente basic suits with either a EXO-5, GLU-5, GEK-38, or CBR-7's with a Toxin SMG,x1 Enhanced Plate, x2 Militia Armor Repper BPO's x2 Militia Shield Extender BPO's and can usually 1v1 good players1v2 average players or 1v3 bad players it's more about outsmarting your enemies. |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
247
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:50:00 -
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I play skirmish, Dom, FW. The only hope where you could get a good battle is in FW.
Instant battles have terrible matchmaking. I have never seen a good battle in IB since Uprising 1.0 |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:56:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:I play skirmish, Dom, FW. The only hope where you could get a good battle is in FW.
Instant battles have terrible matchmaking. I have never seen a good battle in IB since Uprising 1.0 Good old Corp battles were good in regards with teamwork and so are the few PC matches that occur. |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
94
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:28:00 -
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it doesn't matter what gear you run if you have certain proficiencies you have the advantage when engaging anyone with 4 million less sp than you |
A B Ablabab
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
84
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:42:00 -
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Academy is not safe. My alt was gunned down by a duvolle... In academy. It's less frequent but those people who need to absolutely have the best gear to get hard are spending their time gaming the Academy system now too. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
179
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:48:00 -
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If Faction Warfare battles populated constantly for me I would only play that. I dont like sitting there twiddling my thumbs watching "no available battles"
Besides I am a scout and not all that good so no pubstomping for me. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
151
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:59:00 -
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I think people should stop noob spamming pubs.
Did you know that every time a bell rings a noob get its wings? |
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BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
144
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:11:00 -
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When I first made this character I quit a week after because of that reason. I left for about 2 months and found 2.5 mil SP and it gave me a fighting chance. It occurs to me that not everyone is going to come back like I did. I would definitely say it is a problem. Matchmaking needs to be a serious priority for CCP if they want to keep any new players they may attract. |
James-5955
Internal Error. League of Infamy
217
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:18:00 -
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That's how CCP plans to keep their small playerbase in Dust. Play our game, grind through it all, keep buying our boosters and you'll get a ton of SP. Then spam proto in pubs against already bad players and stomp them out of oblivion so you can feel like you're good, rinse and repeat, grind more SP.
I've said it since day 1, the SP system in this game doesn't belong in shooters. Terrible mechanic and it will always be pushing new players out the door. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
711
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:19:00 -
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I'm not going to go easy on anyone I meet because I can't tell if they are a vet or a newbie until after one of us is dead, so I play for keeps. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
294
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:21:00 -
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I would play FW more often if matches were readily available and deployment didn't take 5 minutes. |
Christian 1996
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:41:00 -
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Personally i think they need to make twitch shooter experience actually count in this game. IMO it feels like in a 1v1 situation Gear always trumps over shooter skills.
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Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
49
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:44:00 -
[36] - Quote
James-5955 wrote:That's how CCP plans to keep their small playerbase in Dust. Play our game, grind through it all, keep buying our boosters and you'll get a ton of SP. Then spam proto in pubs against already bad players and stomp them out of oblivion so you can feel like you're good, rinse and repeat, grind more SP.
I've said it since day 1, the SP system in this game doesn't belong in shooters. Terrible mechanic and it will always be pushing new players out the door.
Everyone who plays now was a new player at some point. I started in March. Still here. |
Ynned Ivanova
Decrepid Old Sods
16
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:46:00 -
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Its not all gear related. Last weekend I created 5 or 6 new toons and every single match I was 'stomping'.
Miliia equipment, only had the enhanced dmg mods.
New players need more help with setups and skills. |
Omen Astrul
Red Star. EoN.
87
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:47:00 -
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My char is less than 2 months old and I've never had a problem. 10+ KDR coming out of the academy, came down to about 2.5 once I graduated, now back up to around 3 since I started playing with squads.
Having said that, I do agree the jump from academy to full game is too big. You should be able to stay in the academy until 1 mil SP. And CCP should really stress the benefits of running with a squad to new players. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
192
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:57:00 -
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So protos will be in Domination, and adv will be in other game modes? idk how this works. I just won't play against them or with them. I'll never be on the same SP level as they. So, let me play with my brethren of 10mil through 13. |
JERRY-666
DOOM TEAM INC.
4
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:58:00 -
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I think new recruits should stay in academy until 100,000 WP are achieved. Then the next level up should be 300,000 WP that way everything is balanced out. After 300,000 WP you should have a decent clone to fight the level five prototypes, as well you should know how the game works by then. |
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Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
242
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:04:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:Scan Sweep wrote:I feel exactly the same right now. I just dropped out of the academy yesterday. Until that time those battles were fun, extremely well balanced and constantly waving back and forth. I really liked it. But this changed immediatly after dropping out of the academy and jumping into any of the public matches. Protos, Protos, Protos. One slaughter party after another. Six matches and not one single kill! Even though I really had taken care of choosing the right skills in order to get better equipment, by the time I joined the public matches DUST just wasn't fun any longer. If my friends asked me if DUST was worth being played I had to say: Absolutely no! This has nothing to do with the game itself but with the fact that it's completely overrun by all the veterans who are now hunting the random goups. The only way to avoid that: AFKing! Seriously. With the current state of the game there is literally no other chance to compete against all those Protos than hiding or AFKing. Right now there is absolutely no point in fighting or even investing in anything else than Militia or Proto gear. Everything else in between is a complete waste of ISK. There are already three of my friends who guit after they were constantly being farmed for two days by the veterans. CCP tried to transfer the idea of personal skill being more important than equipment and skills from EVE to DUST but this just doesn't seem to work at all for a FPS shooter. Never the less, until a matchmaking system is implemented and working this game will lose a lot of new and potential players due to being one of the worst new player experiences out there so far. And until that hiding & AFKing will be king for new players. To be clear: I don't have anything against the veterans and their proto gear in person. They also can't choose their opponents. They are also restricted by the actual game mechanics. I'm against the current status quo of the game and the fact that these problems even exist after the game was launched. But unfortunately this game is very very far from being finished. this is true for noobs we veterans should strive to stick to FW and Domination we should let the noobs play Ambush, OMS and Skirmish All pub stomping does is prevent new people from enjoying this game. I love this game and the more people play this game the more successful this game can become so if you truly like this game and want it to be here ten years from now running on playstation 5 so stop pub stomping and for the record I am not a noob
Nope. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:09:00 -
[42] - Quote
proto items are over rated, all other gear is under rated,
Takes no extra skill at FPS games to drop a proto suit with Milita gear, just shoot them,. /shrug
A milita shot gun has no bias, it drops all suits.
people twink in this game, Yep I said it. Its not the same as staying low level, but backing up standard gear with max skills is a twink in dust .
ya cant really fix pubstomping, they just need to make the maps better.
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Christian 1996
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:27:00 -
[43] - Quote
The only way to really fix pubstomping is to add a no squad gamemode, this will give solo players a place to go. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
577
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:37:00 -
[44] - Quote
Knightshade Belladonna wrote:I still die to militia suits in my proto :\
Good game to you the other day.
Dude you run proto when I run militia?? Luck of the draw when I manage to kill ya. Well that and plenty of ADS. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
733
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:45:00 -
[45] - Quote
as a misanthrope i say stomp them harder |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. League of Infamy
4011
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:48:00 -
[46] - Quote
DoomLead wrote:Scan Sweep wrote:I feel exactly the same right now. I just dropped out of the academy yesterday. Until that time those battles were fun, extremely well balanced and constantly waving back and forth. I really liked it. But this changed immediatly after dropping out of the academy and jumping into any of the public matches. Protos, Protos, Protos. One slaughter party after another. Six matches and not one single kill! Even though I really had taken care of choosing the right skills in order to get better equipment, by the time I joined the public matches DUST just wasn't fun any longer. If my friends asked me if DUST was worth being played I had to say: Absolutely no! This has nothing to do with the game itself but with the fact that it's completely overrun by all the veterans who are now hunting the random goups. The only way to avoid that: AFKing! Seriously. With the current state of the game there is literally no other chance to compete against all those Protos than hiding or AFKing. Right now there is absolutely no point in fighting or even investing in anything else than Militia or Proto gear. Everything else in between is a complete waste of ISK. There are already three of my friends who guit after they were constantly being farmed for two days by the veterans. CCP tried to transfer the idea of personal skill being more important than equipment and skills from EVE to DUST but this just doesn't seem to work at all for a FPS shooter. Never the less, until a matchmaking system is implemented and working this game will lose a lot of new and potential players due to being one of the worst new player experiences out there so far. And until that hiding & AFKing will be king for new players. To be clear: I don't have anything against the veterans and their proto gear in person. They also can't choose their opponents. They are also restricted by the actual game mechanics. I'm against the current status quo of the game and the fact that these problems even exist after the game was launched. But unfortunately this game is very very far from being finished. this is true for noobs we veterans should strive to stick to FW and Domination we should let the noobs play Ambush, OMS and Skirmish All pub stomping does is prevent new people from enjoying this game. I love this game and the more people play this game the more successful this game can become so if you truly like this game and want it to be here ten years from now running on playstation 5 so stop pub stomping and for the record I am not a noob It all I have to do rite now or if you have someone looking for a heavy for PC |
James-5955
Internal Error. League of Infamy
217
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Posted - 2013.07.12 22:15:00 -
[47] - Quote
Zero Notion wrote:James-5955 wrote:That's how CCP plans to keep their small playerbase in Dust. Play our game, grind through it all, keep buying our boosters and you'll get a ton of SP. Then spam proto in pubs against already bad players and stomp them out of oblivion so you can feel like you're good, rinse and repeat, grind more SP.
I've said it since day 1, the SP system in this game doesn't belong in shooters. Terrible mechanic and it will always be pushing new players out the door. Everyone who plays now was a new player at some point. I started in March. Still here.
One case doesn't change anything, of course not every single new player will/has quit Dust. |
Billy7789
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.07.15 05:22:00 -
[48] - Quote
General John Ripper wrote:I kinda like pubstomping noobs.
Hey look whos killing the game.
Nice work |
Ghural
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
109
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Posted - 2013.07.15 05:31:00 -
[49] - Quote
CCP should hurry up and introduce PVE
At least that way players can pick whether they get stomped by drones or proto-squads. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
639
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:52:00 -
[50] - Quote
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1050070#post1050070 This would fix it because player skills and suit choices would matter more and mercs would progress at a pace that they feel more comfortable with. |
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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
132
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:54:00 -
[51] - Quote
Zero Notion wrote:James-5955 wrote:That's how CCP plans to keep their small playerbase in Dust. Play our game, grind through it all, keep buying our boosters and you'll get a ton of SP. Then spam proto in pubs against already bad players and stomp them out of oblivion so you can feel like you're good, rinse and repeat, grind more SP.
I've said it since day 1, the SP system in this game doesn't belong in shooters. Terrible mechanic and it will always be pushing new players out the door. Everyone who plays now was a new player at some point. I started in March. Still here.
Most everybody who plays all played together and didn't have to go through adversity cause everybody's stats got wiped. If they didn't get wiped I wouldn't of played this game. |
Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 17:37:00 -
[52] - Quote
As a noob who might as well be running all MLT gear, I can say that when I see 5+ people from the same corp on the other side, it's the not the proto gear I'm scared of - it is their tactics, organisation and knowledge of maps and weapons. I learned after a week that the guy in the that proto assault who just killed me with a duvolle AR, is not necessarily a good player - they still run into grenades, leave there flanks open and stare down their scope when someone is unloading an smg on their backs.
What I Learnt when I got out of academy was you need a corp to survive, not necessarily better gear than enemy. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
122
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:04:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:Scan Sweep wrote:I feel exactly the same right now. I just dropped out of the academy yesterday. Until that time those battles were fun, extremely well balanced and constantly waving back and forth. I really liked it. But this changed immediatly after dropping out of the academy and jumping into any of the public matches. Protos, Protos, Protos. One slaughter party after another. Six matches and not one single kill! Even though I really had taken care of choosing the right skills in order to get better equipment, by the time I joined the public matches DUST just wasn't fun any longer. If my friends asked me if DUST was worth being played I had to say: Absolutely no! This has nothing to do with the game itself but with the fact that it's completely overrun by all the veterans who are now hunting the random goups. The only way to avoid that: AFKing! Seriously. With the current state of the game there is literally no other chance to compete against all those Protos than hiding or AFKing. Right now there is absolutely no point in fighting or even investing in anything else than Militia or Proto gear. Everything else in between is a complete waste of ISK. There are already three of my friends who guit after they were constantly being farmed for two days by the veterans. CCP tried to transfer the idea of personal skill being more important than equipment and skills from EVE to DUST but this just doesn't seem to work at all for a FPS shooter. Never the less, until a matchmaking system is implemented and working this game will lose a lot of new and potential players due to being one of the worst new player experiences out there so far. And until that hiding & AFKing will be king for new players. To be clear: I don't have anything against the veterans and their proto gear in person. They also can't choose their opponents. They are also restricted by the actual game mechanics. I'm against the current status quo of the game and the fact that these problems even exist after the game was launched. But unfortunately this game is very very far from being finished. this is true for noobs we veterans should strive to stick to FW and Domination we should let the noobs play Ambush, OMS and Skirmish All pub stomping does is prevent new people from enjoying this game. I love this game and the more people play this game the more successful this game can become so if you truly like this game and want it to be here ten years from now running on playstation 5 so stop pub stomping and for the record I am not a noob
I dont feel sorry for him, vets in any FPS kick noobs rear ends. Mag had the same problem it's called initiation phase also squad up
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:08:00 -
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Pub stomping is amusing because rolling around with a squad in top gear is only "skillful" if it's against another team doing the same thing.
::Shrugs::
I've given up on increasing player retention anytime soon, go pad those KDRs you dusty warriors you. |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:11:00 -
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I have been pub stomping without proto gear. |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:18:00 -
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PVE and better matchmaking will make newcomers entering the game that much easier. But in the meantime....
HTFU |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
242
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:37:00 -
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Pub Stomping is great, just played 3 redline Domination's in a row, like, so redlined one of my squad literally hacked the supply depot over their redline, redlined. |
Poonmunch
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:39:00 -
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I think this should be handled by adding more tiers. Say, 1 million SP per tier.
Munch |
TerdY420
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:30:00 -
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Remember when ccp said they believed the proto stompers would be playing FW and PC so proto-pub-stomping would subside.
Those were great times, when hope still kept players here. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
671
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:40:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:I don't know why people thought a new mode would instantly stop pubstomping. The only way to stop pubstomping is to fix the pub matches themselves.
What new game mode did we get?
Oh, are you talking about the re-release of "One and Only"? I still don't consider that a "new game mode", it is simply the 1 objective version of Skirmish. It shouldn't even be a separate category in the Battle Finder, it should just be in the Skirmish shuffle. |
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