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Malicae Destroinen
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:07:00 -
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Here's the situation, CCP assigns 180k give or take weekly that you can get Bonus wise if you pay for the active booster, however you can easily get all 180k in 1-2 days. Leaving the rest of the week only giving you crap for SP from battles.
Basically while the 180k is available you get 5-9k SP a match. However once it Exhasts itself, you only get about 412 - 1k per match. Making the Active Booster nothing but a money scam and useless.
DO NOT buy them.
It is currently set up to where you are paying for nothing basically. It's called a racket. You pay for 7 days of extra SP boost but you only get 2 days maybe 3 worth at most if you play continuously for about 6 hours a day. The rest of the week you get nothing for your trouble.
And I really feel sorry for those that paid for 30 days of bonus SP. You all really got screwed.
This needs to be fixed ASAP. |
Saki Seto
DUST University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:09:00 -
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I dont think the sp from the booster take from the weekly pool. atlest that was my impression. |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
168
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:11:00 -
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lol wut?
active boosters are pretty sweet, its an extra 100k SP per week. If you play alot, buy 3 day boosters. |
Malicae Destroinen
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:14:00 -
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It does,
I had 7k or so left in that pool (the one where it says Bonus SP)
I played 2 games in which I got about 2k-5k each in, It then read "Bonus SP exhausted!!!"
I then played 2 more games
It only gave me 412 SP total.
How do you go from 5-9k a match
to
412 a match
When you have both an Active and a passive Booster and get about 10 kills+ each match?
Answer:
When the booster you purchased is a racket design to get your money without actually giving you anything. |
Malicae Destroinen
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:15:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:lol wut?
active boosters are pretty sweet, its an extra 100k SP per week. If you play alot, buy 3 day boosters.
The point is when you pay for something, you should get it. If you pay for a 7 day booster then you should get 7 days worth of SP boosting. Not 2 days. Not 3 days.
Otherwise you are paying for a service to which you are not receiving. |
MASS DR1V3R
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:17:00 -
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It's called bonus sp for a reason. It's because it's more than you would get normally. The active and passive boosters both give you more sp per week than you would normally get. |
Malicae Destroinen
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:20:00 -
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MASS DR1V3R wrote:It's called bonus sp for a reason. It's because it's more than you would get normally. The active and passive boosters both give you more sp per week than you would normally get.
You are paying for 7 days worth of SP boosting.
Quote:So why am I not getting 7 days worth of SP boosting is my question , If you only get 5 or 2 or 3, or however long it takes you to run that 180k out if it is under "7" days. and you PAID for "7" days. You need to RECIEVE "7" days worth of SP boosting,
I don't give a **** about How "MUCH" SP I get. I care about paying for a service I am not receiving. |
Malicae Destroinen
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:23:00 -
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I mean if you paid for 30 days Subscription to Eve online, and then after 15 days they turned off your account would you say:
Hey you got extra SP for 15 days!
No you wouldn't, you'd be lit. Because you PAID FOR A SERVICE YOU ARE NOT RECEIVING.
Get the point? |
xp3ll3d dust
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
58
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:23:00 -
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Not sure if troll, or if he is just not mentally able enough to grasp the concept of "an extra 50% SP per week". |
Dust HaHakoke
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:28:00 -
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There is a weekly sp pool you can get each week once you hit the the limit you have to wait till next wed for it to reset the boosters give *extra* sp on top of the pool you can get each week |
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MASS DR1V3R
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:28:00 -
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After you are capped, you do still continue to gain 50% more sp. It's just capped sp instead of uncapped. I think he needs to read up on why there's a cap.
You're complaining about the wrong thing OP. You want to create another thread complaining about the cap. |
Malicae Destroinen
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:29:00 -
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xp3ll3d dust wrote:Not sure if troll, or if he is just not mentally able enough to grasp the concept of "an extra 50% SP per week".
Ok first off 180k is not an extra 50% SP per week. It's 50% extra SP per battle until the 180k runs out. then you get next to nothing until the weekly total resets.
If you can't understand that you are not recieving 50% extra SP all week, you can't do simple math.
50% of 9000 is not 412.
Going from 9000 per game to 412 per game, is not 50% extra SP.
My Booster is still active, yet I am not receiving the same SP I was 2 games ago.
This is wrong.
The question that you still havn't answered is:
Quote:Why would you pay for a 7 day booster, if you know your going to use all the bonus SP in the first 3 days? And then get nothing for the other 4 your paying for?
It is a legitimate question. |
Malicae Destroinen
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:31:00 -
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On the cap, yes that may very well be the issue, you are correct, however it still makes the 7 day booster useless and you should not buy it or the 30 day one. |
Dust HaHakoke
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
0
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:33:00 -
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then dont buy it the booster gives extra sp even after you hit the weekly soft cap.... also this a sp cap problem not a booster issue |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
464
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:34:00 -
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Malicae Destroinen wrote:xp3ll3d dust wrote:Not sure if troll, or if he is just not mentally able enough to grasp the concept of "an extra 50% SP per week". Ok first off 180k is not an extra 50% SP per week. It's 50% extra SP per battle until the 180k runs out. then you get next to nothing until the weekly total resets. If you can't understand that you are not recieving 50% extra SP all week, you can't do simple math. 50% of 9000 is not 412. Going from 9000 per game to 412 per game, is not 50% extra SP. My Booster is still active, yet I am not receiving the same SP I was 2 games ago. This is wrong. The question that you still havn't answered is: Quote:Why would you pay for a 7 day booster, if you know your going to use all the bonus SP in the first 3 days? And then get nothing for the other 4 your paying for? It is a legitimate question.
Actually, you are totally wrong. You do get an extra 50%. You do not hit your cap faster due to the booster. In effect, you end up with a cap that is 1.5x your unboosted cap.
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MASS DR1V3R
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
21
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:34:00 -
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Malicae Destroinen wrote:On the cap, yes that may very well be the issue, you are correct, however it still makes the 7 day booster useless and you should not buy it or the 30 day one.
Dude, the booster still gives you more sp per week than you would normally get. It doesn't get you to your cap faster. It adds on to what your weekly pool would normally be and gives it to you in increments after battles. |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
156
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:37:00 -
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Malicae Destroinen wrote:Ok first off 180k is not an extra 50% SP per week. It's 50% extra SP per battle until the 180k runs out. then you get next to nothing until the weekly total resets.
Here's how Active boosters work:
Without a booster, you can get a total of about 180k per week. With an active booster, you can get a total of about 280k per week. You earn an additional 50% more SP per battle, and the SP Cap is raised by 50% as well. So yes, you do get more total SP with a booster
After you hit the cap, you get 1 WP = 1 SP in a battle. If you have a booster still active, then you get 1 WP = 1.5 SP (with a maximum of 1500 SP per battle).
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Wojciak
Soldiers Of One Network
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:38:00 -
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Read this. |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
308
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:41:00 -
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Even if they did cause you to cap out sooner they'd still be useful to those of us who can't play often enough to hit the cap. |
Malicae Destroinen
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:45:00 -
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* I am not saying they make you cap out faster.
* I am not saying you don;t get more then you would.
* I am not talking about PASSIVE BOOSTERS
I AM SAYING:
And I am talking about: ACTIVE BOOSTERS
You don;t get what you paid for. Which is a 7 or 30 day boost.
You mine as well ONLY BUY a 1 - 3 day boost, or 3 1 day boosts. Because after that your not going to be getting Jack for SP after the battles anyway.
All you get is an extra 180k per week (Active Boosting), Period. Whether you have a 1 day, a 3 day a 7 day or a 30 day boost 180 k extra SP per week is ALL you will ever get.
SO
Buying a 7 day or a 30 day Boost IS a WASTE of money because you can simply buy 3 1 day boosts (per week) for half the price and get the exact same amount of SP as you would if you had a 7 day boost or a 30 day boost. Making the 7 day and the 30 day Useless and pointless to buy.
Get it now? |
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Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
158
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:53:00 -
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Maybe it's a waste for you. If you cap out in two or three days, then just by the three day booster (I'm assuming they still exist). For a lot of people it takes them the full week, because they don't have as much time to play, in which case it's fair value for them. |
Wojciak
Soldiers Of One Network
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:54:00 -
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Malicae Destroinen wrote:* I am not saying they make you cap out faster.
* I am not saying you don;t get more then you would.
I AM SAYING:
You don;t get what you paid for. Which is a 7 or 30 day boost.
You mine as well ONLY BUY a 1 - 3 day boost, or 3 1 day boosts. Because after that your not going to be getting Jack for SP after the battles anyway.
SO
Buying a 7 day or a 30 day Boost IS a WASTE of money because you can simply buy 3 1 day boosts (per week) for half the price and get the exact same amount of SP as you would if you had a 7 day boost or a 30 day boost. Making the 7 day and the 30 day Useless and pointless to buy.
Get it now?
Ye get it but we do not care. I am a good player and when i had the booster before uprising I would get 1000+ Sp wen caped out. i have a 30 day ( from a merc pack) and will use it when they do another #x event.
The caped sp atm might be different from open beta, but you are still getting 1.50*Sp. that is the service they provide and that is the service you get. if you always cap out do not by the long active, if you do not have 4+ hours a day for video games then get what you want.
My advice for you try to seem less hostile. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
90
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:55:00 -
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So you can't get ~1000 wp a game? damn, and I thought I had it bad with HAV's being **** an all.... |
Tankin Tarkus
Quafe Runners
15
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:58:00 -
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even once u cap u still get your 50% extra sp based on what u earn that match if your capped and u get 1000 wp normally u only get 1000 sp but with the active u get 1500 thats 500 free sure its no 2-3k free a match but its still 50% more than u would have got without it
if u play alot its worth it end of story if u play say 100 matches a week past your cap and get 1k+ wp each match thats an extra 50k sp u would have never got without the booster |
Malicae Destroinen
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.19 03:04:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:So you can't get ~1000 wp a game? damn, and I thought I had it bad with HAV's being **** an all....
I get over 2k wp per game thats not the issue, the different map types score you diferently SP and ISK wise. Also seems to depend on specifically what you killed or did in the match, havn't figured out the full breakdown of what equals what yet. |
I-Shayz-I
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
240
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Posted - 2013.05.19 09:41:00 -
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An active booster is defined to be an enhancement that gives you 50% more sp from battles.
It does exactly what it says it does, except that CCP has created a cap to prevent players from just grinding sp all week long to keep them from advancing too far.
Even after you hit the cap, it still does what you paid for: give you 50% more sp from battles. Sure, you aren't earning as much after you hit your cap, but you still get 50% more sp from battles for the time that the booster gives you.
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I think what you want CCP to do is change the cap, not change the boosters, so that you can keep earning the same amount of sp no matter if you play 100+ hours a week or 5 hours.
The problem with this is...well it's unfair to the casual players. The cap allows casuals to hit the cap gradually over the course of a week (or not at all), and the hardcore to hit the cap after a few days and still get sp for the amount of warpoints they earn in battle up to 1000.
If there wasn't a cap, a player could get over a million sp per week with a booster, and have a huge advantage over players who are only about to get around 200k. Over the course of 6 months, the hardcore player could be at 24 million whereas the casual would be at only 5 million. With this cap, the hardcore player is at 7.2 million after 6 months, and the casual at 5. This is a much smaller difference. |
J'Hiera
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.05.19 10:53:00 -
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Is there anywhere within the game, CCP tells you about the weekly cap?
Because I am guessing a lot of people who buy active boosters, do it under the impression that you get 2-3000 (or more) each game until the booster runs out.
I havent seen any ingame info on that, but if they did, that cluld make for some happier customers who bjy a 3 day and think this game is awesome, instead of building up a negative impression. |
Chilled Pill
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
67
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Posted - 2013.05.19 10:56:00 -
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Reading this made me sad for the future of humanity. |
Saoa Scum
Judge Mercenaries
9
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Posted - 2013.05.19 11:27:00 -
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Chilled Pill wrote:Reading this made me sad for the future of humanity.
+1 :D
It's kind of scary to see how stupid some people are..
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Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
League of Infamy
989
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Posted - 2013.05.19 13:19:00 -
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Malicae Destroinen wrote:Here's the situation, CCP assigns 180k give or take weekly that you can get Bonus wise if you pay for the active booster, however you can easily get all 180k in 1-2 days. Leaving the rest of the week only giving you crap for SP from battles.
Basically while the 180k is available you get 5-9k SP a match. However once it Exhasts itself, you only get about 412 - 1k per match. Making the Active Booster nothing but a money scam and useless.
DO NOT buy them.
It is currently set up to where you are paying for nothing basically. It's called a racket. You pay for 7 days of extra SP boost but you only get 2 days maybe 3 worth at most if you play continuously for about 6 hours a day. The rest of the week you get nothing for your trouble.
And I really feel sorry for those that paid for 30 days of bonus SP. You all really got screwed.
This needs to be fixed ASAP.
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Listen up, mercenaries! There's been some confusion in the community about how active skill boosters are supposed to work. Below is a description on how active skill boosters work.
- Active skill boosters do not increase skill point cap - this is by design.
- The extra SP earned from the active skill boosters do not count towards your skill point cap.
- For example: with the active skill booster, you earned 10K skill points (raw) in a match and received an extra 10K skill points from the active skill booster. Only the raw 10K skill points are counted towards your skill cap. The additional 10K skill points you gained from the booster does not count towards your skill point cap.
We hope that clears things up about how the active skill point booster is supposed to work. We will also be revealing more info about plans to address various issues on the Uprising build on the forums soon, so stay tuned. Thank you!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unread
Added bold to quoted text for emphasis on the important information.
Also Active Boosters add +50% to all soft cap awards.
Cheers,
Cross |
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