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Atikali Havendoorr
HERBGROWERS
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:31:00 -
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kevlar waffles
Art of Assassination
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:19:00 -
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dont you think you are expecting too much from a free game? I thought this was just an experiment to see if p2p type games would work on psn so i personally think they did well |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
214
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:33:00 -
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Okay OP.. I'm going to stay as neutral as possible in this response, and I want you to understand that I am not attacking you or disagreeing with you or anything else. I'm just going to ask a simple question from the sideline.
If you hate the game so much, if you proclaimed the downfall of this game years ago, if you don't enjoy it, as your post seems to convey that you indeed don't... why are you still here, on the forums, spreading a toxic environment and circle jerking likes with all the other malcontents?
I get it, you're not having fun and you think by raising these issues you're somehow doing us and CCP a favor. You think, however incorrect and ill informed you may be, that this post will change something. Anything. And that CCP will laud you as a hero for your most insightful post... they won't. The only people who will agree positively with this thread will be other unhappy players. The 'Fanbois' as you eloquently put it, will continue to rage against you and any point you want to make, no matter how valid they may be, perceive or otherwise.
The point of this thread is a typical post from an Imperfect, i'm afraid. Chest-Thumping and bragging going "I SAID SO" from anyone with that tag under their name causes 90% of the player base to roll their eyes now. Being good at the game does not make you an expert in game development.
Of course CCP are not blameless. They themselves have made broken promises and we're all aware of how far behind DUST has fallen in development. But you're still here. Probably still playing, certainly still posting and probably still using Aurum based gear and items. So they're doing something right.
To touch on your posts about costs... CCP are not a no-mark company. They can very easily bankroll this game from the (Monumental) profits they make from EVE. Of course the game might prove too much of a sink, but 50K Concurrent in EVE and 9K Concurrent in Dust (Assuming 4-5K pay) is MORE than enough to keep this game alive.
Again, I reiterate, what was the point in this post? |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
189
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:38:00 -
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kevlar waffles wrote:dont you think you are expecting too much from a free game? I thought this was just an experiment to see if p2p type games would work on psn so i personally think they did well Well, CCP has this thing to hype games to extents way over their heads. |
Avallo Kantor
DUST University Ivy League
56
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:47:00 -
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JonnyAugust wrote:ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:outside of the mega hits 9k is pretty large number for multiplayer. You obviously have not played any other games besides mega-hits and dust. Pretty sure 9k population is at the level of "We are about to go out of business" If everyone bought the elite pack @ $100 = $900,000. The team working on dust is at least 40 people large with varying pay grades, though maybe the chinese employed work for significantly less (just sayin). That gives an mean salary of 22,500 per employee. Some make more and some make less - the game is a losing battle at this point unless they do something drastic. Edit: forgot about overhead like the 8 chefs CCP has or material costs for computer software, renting the Unreal Engine, having an office building, elecricity, water, etc. By some rough estimations, this game is hemoraging money and sucking the life out of CCPs EVE wallet. How long will this game stay afloat? The money we are sinking into it now has the risk of never paying off because the game is about to shutoff in 1 year.
I think you are making a rather small oversimplification in your math. You are assuming that there is a total player base of 9000, and that is not the case. For example right now the game is weighting in at ~ 5k players. The thing you neglect however is that it is maintaining those numbers (from my experience logging on at various odd hours) all day. Because of that you can't just assume the player base is 5k, because it keeps that number 23.5/7 (minus unexpected downtime) which tells at a player count in much higher numbers. Let us assume that the average player plays for Six hours a day. (which probably isn't the case, but it's safer to over estimate such numbers) That would put the actual player count at closer to 20k players. (which would probably mean it is even higher since most players probably play for FAR less time)
Not to mention that you have to consider the fact that many players payed money for this game who currently are no longer playing, and others have made repeat purchases. (Like some posters on this forum who claim to have put over $200 into this game) Furthermore, F2P models normally see increase in players playing money for the game the longer they play (i.e somebody who has played 1 yr is more likely to play than one who has played 1 Mo)
In that respect, the game should still be able to maintain a profitable margin for a good period of time, and if they can manage to release something that would draw in huge player counts, like closer to 10k online at once. Then you'll be looking at an even higher profit margin.
Also keep in mind that CCP normally builds games from the ground up for a more specialized (read small) market so they keep that in mind when considering costs. |
Devil Music
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:53:00 -
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Laheon wrote:So... You predicted something that was actually fairly obvious?
It was also kind of obvious that this game wasn't going to attract a lot of the CoD/BF crowd, as they're so busy playing those games itself, and the fact that no advertising was actually DONE for this game all kind of points to low player count. Despite all this, 8.5k on opening weekend is not bad at all. Almost a 5k jump from peak times before Uprising.
I'm sure they were aiming for such a small player base. Atleast they did not waste money improving the servers. We will play a broken game so why bother. Turbo nerds keep this game afloat.
That there is a gap says new players exist. I hope they bring in some new money.
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1636
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:59:00 -
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The "skill gap" isn't a problem. The problem is the terrible gameplay, poor team organization tools and match making, utter lack of game modes and maps, memory leaks, unbalanced gear, and numerous bugs and glitches.
With as bad as the game itself is, the so called "skill gap" isn't even worth mentioning. |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
344
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Posted - 2013.06.16 21:49:00 -
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Vallud Eadesso wrote:Okay OP.. I'm going to stay as neutral as possible in this response, and I want you to understand that I am not attacking you or disagreeing with you or anything else. I'm just going to ask a simple question from the sideline.
If you hate the game so much, if you proclaimed the downfall of this game years ago, if you don't enjoy it, as your post seems to convey that you indeed don't... why are you still here, on the forums, spreading a toxic environment and circle jerking likes with all the other malcontents?
I get it, you're not having fun and you think by raising these issues you're somehow doing us and CCP a favor. You think, however incorrect and ill informed you may be, that this post will change something. Anything. And that CCP will laud you as a hero for your most insightful post... they won't. The only people who will agree positively with this thread will be other unhappy players. The 'Fanbois' as you eloquently put it, will continue to rage against you and any point you want to make, no matter how valid they may be, perceive or otherwise, while all the other 'haters' will stand behind you simply going "Yeah!~" like something from a primary school playground.
The point of this thread is a typical post from an Imperfect, i'm afraid. Chest-Thumping and bragging going "I SAID SO" from anyone with that tag under their name causes 90% of the player base to roll their eyes now. Being good at the game does not make you an expert in game development.
Of course CCP are not blameless. They themselves have made broken promises and we're all aware of how far behind DUST has fallen in development. But you're still here. Probably still playing, certainly still posting and probably still using Aurum based gear and items. So they're doing something right.
To touch on your posts about costs... CCP are not a no-mark company. They can very easily bankroll this game from the (Monumental) profits they make from EVE. Of course the game might prove too much of a sink, but 50K Concurrent in EVE and 9K Concurrent in Dust (Assuming 4-5K pay) is MORE than enough to keep this game alive.
Again, I reiterate, what was the point in this post?
You couldn't be anymore wrong. It's the players such as yourself that have contributed to DUST being in the position it's in.
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Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
207
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Posted - 2013.06.16 22:13:00 -
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@Moejoe Omnipotent
Finally... FINALLY! Someone intelligent enough to see this BS. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
105
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Posted - 2013.06.16 22:18:00 -
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moe joe has taken on more of a 'BOOOOOOGER' role in dust, now hasn't he?
anytime you quote yourself... you're setting yourself up to look stupid. |
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Planetside2 FreeonPS4
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.06.18 00:49:00 -
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Planetside 2 free on PS4 this year |
FoxFour FailedPC
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.06.18 01:11:00 -
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Planetside 2 free on PS4 this year |
Greg FREESEr
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:48:00 -
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What you think 15 mill sp is an advantage? |
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