DUST Search - Remember When, A Year Ago, I Predicted That There'd Be A Skill Gap and the R...

Bucktooth Badger wrote:

I share some of the OP's disappointment with the pace of how things have progressed.
I've been playing Dust for nearly a year now, and in all honesty not much has really changed.
I used to convince myself that each new release was just a test of specific features & functions, which were then plugged into the all encompassing version that CCP were working on ready for release, which would be awesome, spectacular & exceed my dreams. Those dreams that were born from all the talk, ideas from CCP & more importantly, the 'actual' in game footage of huge battles involving everything we could think of related to a futuristic MMOFPS crossing platforms.

However, release date came and .... Meh. Same old games types, FW battles that don't really matter or have consequence, & a flawed Planetary Conquest model designed for only the largest, wealthiest, EVE based corps.
As with others on the forums, I do feel like I was sold a lie & they took my money for Merc Packs only to return broken promises.

BUT ... I do actually love this game, and still have hope that all those promises will be fulfilled.
CCP need to realise though that we, the console crowd, are a different crowd to the EVE/PC & our patience runs a lot thinner & we can easily be distracted by new shiny things...The Last of Us has a rather nice gleam to it & then when the South Park RPG is released ..... Big smile

Hopefully though with the CPM now instigated, we can actually get some idea on time scales & what is happening on the mysterious road map. Big smile

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Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 540	Posted - 2013.05.18 21:22:00 - [31] - Quote K9 Wez wrote: You dont seem to realise how devoted ccp fans can be, if ccp were to sell toilet paper bpo for 50k aurum, it would hit top sellers in no time. See the monocle scandal. You know nothing (Jon Snow).
Bucktooth Badger Buck's Intergalactic Pawn Shop 85	Posted - 2013.05.18 21:38:00 - [32] - Quote I share some of the OP's disappointment with the pace of how things have progressed. I've been playing Dust for nearly a year now, and in all honesty not much has really changed. I used to convince myself that each new release was just a test of specific features & functions, which were then plugged into the all encompassing version that CCP were working on ready for release, which would be awesome, spectacular & exceed my dreams. Those dreams that were born from all the talk, ideas from CCP & more importantly, the 'actual' in game footage of huge battles involving everything we could think of related to a futuristic MMOFPS crossing platforms. However, release date came and .... Meh. Same old games types, FW battles that don't really matter or have consequence, & a flawed Planetary Conquest model designed for only the largest, wealthiest, EVE based corps. As with others on the forums, I do feel like I was sold a lie & they took my money for Merc Packs only to return broken promises. BUT ... I do actually love this game, and still have hope that all those promises will be fulfilled. CCP need to realise though that we, the console crowd, are a different crowd to the EVE/PC & our patience runs a lot thinner & we can easily be distracted by new shiny things...The Last of Us has a rather nice gleam to it & then when the South Park RPG is released ..... Hopefully though with the CPM now instigated, we can actually get some idea on time scales & what is happening on the mysterious road map.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2348	Posted - 2013.05.18 21:42:00 - [33] - Quote Didn't Eve Online start with only 5,000 players or less and had graphics so bad that their old publisher thought CCP was joking with the graphics? Also, the gameplay was thought to be unfinished and had soooooooooo many things wrong at the time.
K9 Wez The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 41	Posted - 2013.05.18 21:45:00 - [34] - Quote Bucktooth Badger wrote: I share some of the OP's disappointment with the pace of how things have progressed. I've been playing Dust for nearly a year now, and in all honesty not much has really changed. I used to convince myself that each new release was just a test of specific features & functions, which were then plugged into the all encompassing version that CCP were working on ready for release, which would be awesome, spectacular & exceed my dreams. Those dreams that were born from all the talk, ideas from CCP & more importantly, the 'actual' in game footage of huge battles involving everything we could think of related to a futuristic MMOFPS crossing platforms. However, release date came and .... Meh. Same old games types, FW battles that don't really matter or have consequence, & a flawed Planetary Conquest model designed for only the largest, wealthiest, EVE based corps. As with others on the forums, I do feel like I was sold a lie & they took my money for Merc Packs only to return broken promises. BUT ... I do actually love this game, and still have hope that all those promises will be fulfilled. CCP need to realise though that we, the console crowd, are a different crowd to the EVE/PC & our patience runs a lot thinner & we can easily be distracted by new shiny things...The Last of Us has a rather nice gleam to it & then when the South Park RPG is released ..... Hopefully though with the CPM now instigated, we can actually get some idea on time scales & what is happening on the mysterious road map. Oh man have you seen the latest clips of The Last Of Us? Its looking amazing. When that game hits im going to be all over it like white on rice. Perhaps ill get in a few afk rounds in dust, not to sure.
K9 Wez The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 41	Posted - 2013.05.18 21:47:00 - [35] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Didn't Eve Online start with only 5,000 players or less and had graphics so bad that their old publisher thought CCP was joking with the graphics? Also, the gameplay was thought to be unfinished and had soooooooooo many things wrong at the time. You expect the console gamers to wait several years before it gets "good"? Please.
CrotchGrab 360 Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 54	Posted - 2013.05.18 22:15:00 - [36] - Quote it sounds like you are VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY MAD, bro.
THEx4THxSEAL Molon Labe. League of Infamy 17	Posted - 2013.05.18 22:22:00 - [37] - Quote Wow never seen so many people upset about aFREE game....
lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 35	Posted - 2013.05.18 22:27:00 - [38] - Quote I remember.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 1265	Posted - 2013.05.18 22:32:00 - [39] - Quote The skill gap isn't why the game doesn't have 50K members signed on at any given time. It is the gameplay and clunky feel to movement instead of everything being smooth and this aiming system that helps you to miss. If the gameplay and movement was awesome, then players will grind and level up. Especially, now that we have instant battle academy. You don't need 10M skill points to be competitive...maybe not even half that.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2351	Posted - 2013.05.18 22:38:00 - [40] - Quote K9 Wez wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Didn't Eve Online start with only 5,000 players or less and had graphics so bad that their old publisher thought CCP was joking with the graphics? Also, the gameplay was thought to be unfinished and had soooooooooo many things wrong at the time. You expect the console gamers to wait several years before it gets "good"? Please. I'm pretty sure not all of them are like that. Besides, Call of Duty never got better even after multiple iterations and yet I still see people play that game. The same goes for Halo.

Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 196	Posted - 2013.05.18 22:44:00 - [41] - Quote This is the first weekend of release, there are 8+k ppl on during early afternoon hours Pacific time zone. I'd wager that about a few hundred thousand ppl actually play the game regularly but are not on all at once. Most ppl who play are satisfied with the game after the latest patches that fixed some big problems. PC definitely is distracting some large corporations from pub stomping and assault games feature now fairly balanced teams. I really don't see where all this Doom and Gloom from the OP is coming from. I am not a fan boy and have been bithching at many things CCP have done but as I look at the game right now it's definitely afloat. I remember MAG at its height and there would be maybe a couple of thousand players on at once at the most - and that game was loved like none of those FPS dejoure like COD where every new week there is a new clone released.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 552	Posted - 2013.05.18 22:56:00 - [42] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: The skill gap isn't why the game doesn't have 50K members signed on at any given time. Disagree. I've had 500k (in March, two months after Chromosome release) and been competitive. Create an alt and go into battle academy and tell me how well you do. The reason is NOT the skill gap, people just tend to blame that because it's the most obvious thing. The true reason for the disparity is how long you've been playing the game, hence the terms "vet" and "newberry". Or "noob", when applied to any other shooter.
RoTTeN-1 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.05.18 23:00:00 - [43] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Hey, here's an idea, maybe the EVE folks have a bit of experience with how CCP works and the non-EVE FPS folks have a bit of experience with first person shooters. Hmm after playing and ghosting these forums for 1year I have seen the Evetarts ruin this game. They cried about movement speed because they couldnt hit crap with the DS3. Movement nerfed to a snails pace. Now they have KBM. They cried when Protoman tossed on a heavy and would slay the nubs. Heavy gets its first nerf. Evetarts argue with console players about what makes a good FPS on the PS3. Cry about ARs, Cry about SS. I could go on and on... CCP seem to have listened to them and now we have this mess. Not all consolers Like or play CoD. You all hate on the IMPS but atleast most of them know what makes a good FPS.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 293	Posted - 2013.05.18 23:03:00 - [44] - Quote LongLostLust wrote: The Imps may act Elitest for the most part, but when they are right they are right. This^ I don't like the Imp attitude, though, I give props where they are due. He predicted what would happen, it happened. People are in denial.
Sylwester Dziewiecki BetaMax. CRONOS. 67	Posted - 2013.05.18 23:06:00 - [45] - Quote I do not understand what purpose topics like that suppose to have on forums.. I'm coming here, on a forums and instead of doing something constructive I waste my time on reading drama like this(sorry OP), suche waste of time.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 293	Posted - 2013.05.18 23:12:00 - [46] - Quote THEx4THxSEAL wrote: Wow never seen so many people upset about aFREE game.... sigh You know, eventually CCP wants to make a profit off this game. It may be free but, it is meant to get people to spend money.
David Spd Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 22	Posted - 2013.05.19 00:01:00 - [47] - Quote CCP and Eve players thought that developing for console wouldn't be more difficult than developing for PC and they thought wrong. Devs sit around brainstorming "what-ifs" and "wouldn't it be cool..." but then reality kicks in and all their doodles go untouched while development time continues to be pushed into optimization and fixing the ** they did wrong. Meanwhile Dust's biggest innovation is a bunch of numbers uploading to a server that changes number values for Eve players. Eve players STILL don't give two * or a what Dust mercs are doing and rightly so. I was silent during closed and open beta because I know that a beta is a test build and doesn't represent the final product (most of the time) and here after "release" I'm playing the same piece of garbage I was with a prettier paintjob and redundant gamemodes and the same lifeless planet reskinned to look like a dozen and one with the same structures jumbled up to give an illusion of variety. Potential doesn't make a game good, and being free doesn't excuse or justify a game being bad. CCP has dropped the ball big time. They need to pull their heads out of the clouds (or their * in some cases) and focus on short-term issues that are plaguing the game. They need to set all the non-essential nonsense aside and really drive through the stuff that continues to be broken since beta and stop tellig how great the "idea" of Dust is and put that damn money where their mouth is. They hype the crap out of this game and then deliver nothing but disappointment and I don't know why I keep hoping that CCP will fix this damn thing. Don't like to see games fail, I really don't, but CCP needs to realize that this game isn't Eve and it isn't on PC. Eve sthe only game that does what it does. The only comparable thing is what, Star Trek Online? That game is garbage and can't hold a candle to Eve. Dust has plenty of competition that is well established in both community and platform, they can't afford to mess up like they have been. Tired ofcomplaining and having CCP ** make things worse instead of better (tac rifle). Gonna dosomething elsefor a while....
Salient0ne Jarn Drakar 9	Posted - 2013.05.19 00:11:00 - [48] - Quote CCP is only good at one thing, and its NOT making video games. Its stringing along its player base with false promises and outright lies. But they do it so well, everyone eats it up as the gospel truth.
Elrick Mercer Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 29	Posted - 2013.05.19 00:20:00 - [49] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: outside of the mega hits 9k is pretty large number for multiplayer. No it's not... 9k is actually poor for a only multiplayer game.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4336	Posted - 2013.05.19 00:22:00 - [50] - Quote Elrick Mercer wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: outside of the mega hits 9k is pretty large number for multiplayer. No it's not... 9k is actually poor for a only multiplayer game. No 24 people is poor for a multiplayer game. (cough* Jump Gate)

hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.05.19 00:33:00 - [51] - Quote PVE was always a post release update thing and do you want them to get this game working or do you want a stupid vita app??
fred orpaul The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 293	Posted - 2013.05.19 00:34:00 - [52] - Quote Are you going to offer some solutions or are just here to point fingers.
bumm baliste TTCorp 3	Posted - 2013.05.19 00:36:00 - [53] - Quote fred orpaul wrote: Are you going to offer some solutions or are just here to point fingers. Point fingers obviously. I love how so many console players call eve players stuck up assholes, and then they post **** like this.
Full Metal Kitten Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 377	Posted - 2013.05.19 00:39:00 - [54] - Quote Oh heh! Look! Another pointless thread on the Internet! Don't feed the animals, Timmy.
Moejoe Omnipotent Imperfects Negative-Feedback 426	Posted - 2013.05.19 03:54:00 - [55] - Quote Oh ya, and even 24 vs 24 hasn't happened despite CCP claiming that 128 vs 128 was possible for them back in March 2012.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3090	Posted - 2013.05.19 04:04:00 - [56] - Quote -free-to-play -unproven devs for FPS development -unkown dev for console gamers -not really ready for release, in spite of CCP's apparent belief otherwise ... And with playcount still rapidly increasing at present. Started at around 5k on release, and is now edging close to 10k in a matter of weeks, with even many of the haters sticking around to complain more (and hopefully when they have legit complaints, being listened to, because CCP actually do that sometimes).
David Spd Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 29	Posted - 2013.05.19 04:10:00 - [57] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Elrick Mercer wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: outside of the mega hits 9k is pretty large number for multiplayer. No it's not... 9k is actually poor for a only multiplayer game. No 24 people is poor for a multiplayer game. (cough* Jump Gate) Dust is the ONLY free to play first person shooter on PS3, Just because there are a lot of people doesn't mean much in this aspect imo. There is nothing to compare the numbers to, and no other free to play titles to compete with. DCUO and that other Sony MMO don't count; they're different genres. Dust is by default the best/worst free to play shooter on PSN, "We're the best because we're the only one!" Isn't really something to get excted over or brag about in my opinion.
PlanetsideTwo F2P2013PS4 Shining Flame Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.15 23:06:00 - [58] - Quote Planetside 2 day/night infantry battle
Kinky Burrito A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS 19	Posted - 2013.06.15 23:14:00 - [59] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: outside of the mega hits 9k is pretty large number for multiplayer. Outside of mega hit RETAIL games. This game is FREE, and not even 1% of PS3 users want to play it.
Charlotte O'Dell Molon Labe. League of Infamy 487	Posted - 2013.06.16 00:51:00 - [60] - Quote Free game for a console and nobody wants to play it. lol



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