OHMYGODHEUSEDTHETWORD. Head for the hills!

In all seriousness, I just want to start some tank players and AV players chatting about the average speed of the HAV. I find it to be a bit fast, and if they decided to add some HitPoints to them in exchange for some speed, I'd like that. Thing is, I'm not a tank pilot anymore, nor am I the Forge Gunner I used to be, so I have no say in the matter beyond 'that guy that got gun down by a tank that one time' so lets get the ball rolling.

They don't actually move that fast, man. I was actually somewhat impressed that tanks in this game can move at a reasonable speed, unlike in so many other shooters that feature them.

The other factor is how long it takes them to accelerate. They aren't exactly nimble enough to evade your Plasma Cannon shot from point-blank, if that's what you're worried about.

Also, the last thing we need is any vehicle suffering a speed reduction while the Forge Gun is still practically instant-hit and capable of 2-3 shotting any HAV if you use the Breach.

I see you edited the OP, and I am ALL about some webs.

If they put in capacitors for vehicles, I'd love to see cap-drain grenades too.

Ewar would add a lot more spice to the combat.

Long long time ago well before the chomosome CCP Wolfman did mention a webifier mine.

I would like to see it implemented like the rep/transfer from a vehicle and small less powerful mine types. Vehicle drivers and infantry could work together and make it difficult for other vehicles.

You want your tank to have more HP at the cost of speed.

Have you heard of "Armour Plates" yet?

They're wonderful things, take up a low slot. They give you extra HP at the cost of speed. Check them out sometime.

You want your tank to have more HP at the cost of speed.

Have you heard of "Armour Plates" yet?

They're wonderful things, take up a low slot. They give you extra HP at the cost of speed. Check them out sometime.

You want your tank to have more HP at the cost of speed.

Have you heard of "Armour Plates" yet?

They're wonderful things, take up a low slot. They give you extra HP at the cost of speed. Check them out sometime.

They are still to fast compared to tanks today, that's ok but since tanks are so fast we need equipment that webs

I don't want 'my' tank to have more EHP in exchange for speed. How about you read the entire OP before you try to feed your like received e-peen?

Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't intending for that post to be taken seriously.

I'm kind of overdue on sleep right now. I'm sometimes a bit more stupid than usual in this state. I'll try and have a more sensible reply for you later. And yes, I did read the whole post, but I'll admit I'm a bit hazy on the details right now, which is why I didn't give you a sensible reply yet.

To add to the webbie discussion I think they would be great. I personally would like to see them in 2 flavors. The first being a deployable much like a (haven't played eve in forever so this may be wrong) warp scrambler. It would be destroyable but could beplaced ontop of a low building or behind an object preventing the tank from ppopping it. This one could be a low penalty, like 15% max speed debuf Iinside of its radius of say 10m, skilling into them could increase the radius maybe.The second would be a weapon slot variant. I would say light slot similar to a webbifier in eve. This version I would say max range 60 m with a massive 50% speed debuff. It should have an overheat type limiting factor. I would think 10 seconds worth of active time and a 15 second cooldown. If the target breaks range or los the effect breaks. Weapon must stay aimed at the hit box for effect to stay active

I'm a forge gunner. From my point of view tank speed is fine. I use a 9k330 most times which can take out tanks fairly well. Especially in combo with an av grenade or two. At range though tanks most times can duck and cover before I can pop the cherry. Unless they are mlt then they are toast. To me that is the right balance. As a tanker if you get close enough to get grenaded you are doing it wrong or you just got out played, learn from the loss. If you are at range and are fitted well you should survive long enough to find cover. If you can't you probably got out played. I still think tanks could use a slight buff to hp. Maybe not base but give them slightly better plates and extenders. I should not be chasing away a proto fit tank solo. It should take 2 av or 1 full protoav to scare a proto tank and 2 proto or 3+ av to destroy one.

OHMYGODHEUSEDTHETWORD. Head for the hills!

In all seriousness, I just want to start some tank players and AV players chatting about the average speed of the HAV. I find it to be a bit fast, and if they decided to add some HitPoints to them in exchange for some speed, I'd like that. Thing is, I'm not a tank pilot anymore, nor am I the Forge Gunner I used to be, so I have no say in the matter beyond 'that guy that got gun down by a tank that one time' so lets get the ball rolling.

Or at least, can we discuss the uses of Stasis Webbifiers in the context of DUST514? Maybe Equipment, maybe a vehicle module? A mine? A repair tool like device? A sidearm?

With speed governors removed, the M1A2 Abrams travels up to 100km/hr. Tanks on this game have less speed and armor than they should. Do not introduce webifiers BC that'll kill tanks ability to get away and with 6000HP, they'll be obsolete. Until we have tanks that can fit 10,000 HP and reppers/boosters, webifiers cannot be added; nor can speed be reduced AGAIN. Those of us whostill tank barely manage to keep our vehicles alive when there is ANY AV around. We need speed. We need more speed if we cacan't have HP.

Your argument against having webbifiers is that they'd get you killed? That's kinda the point. In EVE we have tacklers who are supposed to bum rush a target and put a 'point and web' on them, which means they need to put a point of Warp Scrambler on the target along with a Stasis Webbifier to prevent the target from warping out and flying freely. If the enemy is coordinated enough to do such, you deserve death, and you deserve it swiftly. To put it in DUST terms if you let an infantry guy stroll up to you and web you, you deserve to be shelled into the ground. This module probably won't even give any kind of WP if DShips are anything to go by so the only people using them will be the same that use DShips: those that want to win/have a deepseated hatred of tanks.

In short, we need these tools to help kill you. Saying we don't need them because they'd help kill you is mildly dumb.

At the moment, you DON'T need those tools to kill tanks.

That's the problem. If and when we get Webifiers, tanks will need something extra to balance them out.

Don't tanks have afterburners?

With speed governors removed, the M1A2 Abrams travels up to 100km/hr. Tanks on this game have less speed and armor than they should. Do not introduce webifiers BC that'll kill tanks ability to get away and with 6000HP, they'll be obsolete. Until we have tanks that can fit 10,000 HP and reppers/boosters, webifiers cannot be added; nor can speed be reduced AGAIN. Those of us whostill tank barely manage to keep our vehicles alive when there is ANY AV around. We need speed. We need more speed if we cacan't have HP.

Not if they want to survive more than one Forge Gunner.