I don't want 'my' tank to have more EHP in exchange for speed. How about you read the entire OP before you try to feed your like received e-peen?

OHMYGODHEUSEDTHETWORD. Head for the hills!

In all seriousness, I just want to start some tank players and AV players chatting about the average speed of the HAV. I find it to be a bit fast, and if they decided to add some HitPoints to them in exchange for some speed, I'd like that. Thing is, I'm not a tank pilot anymore, nor am I the Forge Gunner I used to be, so I have no say in the matter beyond 'that guy that got gun down by a tank that one time' so lets get the ball rolling.

Or at least, can we discuss the uses of Stasis Webbifiers in the context of DUST514? Maybe Equipment, maybe a vehicle module? A mine? A repair tool like device? A sidearm?

Your argument against having webbifiers is that they'd get you killed? That's kinda the point. In EVE we have tacklers who are supposed to bum rush a target and put a 'point and web' on them, which means they need to put a point of Warp Scrambler on the target along with a Stasis Webbifier to prevent the target from warping out and flying freely. If the enemy is coordinated enough to do such, you deserve death, and you deserve it swiftly. To put it in DUST terms if you let an infantry guy stroll up to you and web you, you deserve to be shelled into the ground. This module probably won't even give any kind of WP if DShips are anything to go by so the only people using them will be the same that use DShips: those that want to win/have a deepseated hatred of tanks.

In short, we need these tools to help kill you. Saying we don't need them because they'd help kill you is mildly dumb.

Don't tanks have afterburners?

I'm not quite getting it. They'd need the afterburner to counter stasis, but to nullify the possibility of being webbed they'd need to give up something, in this case armor. It seems fair enough to me. Tangentially related, how many Forge Gunners is a tank supposed to be able to survive?

Then what should tanks have to balance it out? I'd be fine with giving them more HP, but as I said before they'd better pay for their EHP with speed. As IWS stated, AV players are just not a credible threat to a tank because they can book-it back to redline sweet redline before they can be finished off unless you get two firing linked shots or more than two just firing at will. And honestly, two coordinated SuperSpaceRPGs ought to be enough to kill a tank.

This is the biggest problem I've noticed. Guy swaps to AV,scares the tank off, and the tank is back within a minute; less if he doesn't wait for cooldowns. The 'cowardly tank' as I've come to call them needs a counter in the form of webs. The AV guys I talk to get really steamed over not really getting anything for deterring vehicles while the vehicles get tons of kills from the nonAV guys or the AV guy himself if he gets too brazen. Too many 'big one that got away' stories, if you ask me.

Also, didn't there used to be a damage thing? I remember WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back in the first build you got points for damaging tanks, turrets, even the MCC. We need that back... except for the MCC one.

Can't count the number of times I've surfed a tank. As a shotgunner, this never ends well.

If he was a mildly braindamaged Minmatar Basic, then that was indeed me. Was running AV grenades to see what the whole OP fuss was about. Ran out way before the Tank ran low on shields and he was getting a bead on me, so jumping on top seemed the only sensible thing to do.

...WOW that sounds stupid when you say it out loud. Tried to jump a tank armed with grenades and ended up riding it.

Not sure. I remember things like that happening, but I can't read the neon names on my Lo-Def. BTW is it just me or do you need to lead the shotgun a tad, I swear I'm either missing or the bullets disappear into the ether when I'm too close.

On Webby topic, I hope they add them sooner than later, regardless of what speculation we make such a thing should have been tested during the beta period.