Nice reports, very interesting. How could I sponsor the next?

Well, this pretty much confirms hellstorm is poaching. Thanks in advance for helping corps weed out disloyal children

Those hellstorm recruiting powers are mine :D

Took a few weeks but I picked up everyone I wanted before PC.

First off its not poaching if the players aproached me.

Secondly proof? Because im pretty sure I never sent a single person who joined recently a message.

They joined hellstorm because they wanted to not because I used a jedi mind trick and coerced them into joining.

Check your facts before calling people or corps poachers and also irs a video game you cant blame people for wanting to play with people that they actually like.

I'm not blaming anyone for anything, I'm telling you to please keep doing what you're doing. It's kinda like a free janitor service for various corporations.

Janitor service lol.

And I suppose exmaple zbroadway getshotup spyder apyra gem cutyer squagga and a hand full of other vwry good players are trash? Lol what ever floats your boat bro.

Lol even their allies don't trust em. Betamax players where (maybe still) banned from squading with or talking to Hellstorm players for fear of them poaching members.

Janitor service lol.

And I suppose exmaple zbroadway getshotup spyder apyra gem cutyer squagga and a hand full of other vwry good players are trash? Lol what ever floats your boat bro.

Spyder Apyra.. is he new?

I never called any of those players trash, don't put words in my mouth.

Don't you have some spills to be mopping up or something

Zbroadway is a good player. Any speculation why hellstorm wasn't able to pick up arirana, Lecuch, and SprayandPray, all solid players that were on the same sinking boat after leadership (mistakenly, but that's just my opinion) decided they could better fulfill their goals with hell storm?

Im good?

Yes you are and I spoke to z and get shot they both said you and lecuch come as one or not at all and that one of you or both dont like hellstorm.

Yep I know we would have like to have you guys. But good luck with red star they are cool peoples.

First off its not poaching if the players aproached me.

Secondly proof? Because im pretty sure I never sent a single person who joined recently a message.

They joined hellstorm because they wanted to not because I used a jedi mind trick and coerced them into joining.

Check your facts before calling people or corps poachers and also irs a video game you cant blame people for wanting to play with people that they actually like.

kujo has the pic 1 of ur guys spammed kobrah with lol
maple left cuz of his friends in hellstorm i got no issue with any of em that left ppl are free to go same with squagga an co.
We lost some kool ppl who i enjoyed playing with but nothing that hurts us skillwise tbh

just making sure everyone got their facts straight


OT: nice work as always OP
still always amazes me seeing how active we are despite being half and even 1/3 the size of other groups

Dunno why they joined. They kinda just ditched us because they wanted a different corp, which i think is stupid. Why would i go with them if they just left so they could be in a bigger corp? That was the only reason really for them, PC.

Well, this pretty much confirms hellstorm is poaching. Thanks in advance for helping corps weed out disloyal children

I hear undead has his own private jet...maybe he's gifting them with merc packs?

(FTR, I am just kidding. It was just too open not to throw that in there :) )

I played around a little bit and rearranged the top 250 members by corp picture such that corps in the same alliance are next to each other. Here is the image.

Nice.

And me and Spray have reasons for not going to hellstorm, what GetShotUp, Orlando, and Broadway did was stupid and their own choice, but im not ditching all of my friends to go to a corp that just has a "better chance in PC."

Is that the consensus? That Hellstorm has a "better chance in PC"? Because of numbers?

According to getshot and the other players i talked to going to hellstorm (don't quote me on these exact words) but Arrogance was too small (with near 40 members and an alliance to back us up dunno how we were too small but anyways) too small and we couldn't hold districts and that's the only thing they really cared about. They talked to hellstorm and said they had good plans and more members so they went there and tried to get me and spray to go.

Nice work as always but please for the love of Jovians, could you use a more readable font?

That's the thing.....once you are in an alliance, your corp numbers doesn't matter. Your corp activity doesn't matter either.

I agree with both points.

Great data, please keep it coming...but absolutely terrible font choice.

Zbroadway is a good player. Any speculation why hellstorm wasn't able to pick up arirana, Lecuch, and SprayandPray, all solid players that were on the same sinking boat after leadership (mistakenly, but that's just my opinion) decided they could better fulfill their goals with hell storm?

Well until alliance members can freely enter the matches of other alliance corps. Or at the least we as corp directors and alliance directors(hope we get this role soon) can create preapproved lists so that players can be approved on a name to name basis will be far better. (this of course should be tied into a merc request option, so players arent freely joining each other matches unless specifically requested by the contracted corp.)

Well ringers should really be in the game when you do not have enough members online to support the battle. That being said i doubt that is hardly ever the case.

Just go ham with less members

Zbroadway is a good player. Any speculation why hellstorm wasn't able to pick up arirana, Lecuch, and SprayandPray, all solid players that were on the same sinking boat after leadership (mistakenly, but that's just my opinion) decided they could better fulfill their goals with hell storm?

Upvote, for dastardly intelligent analysis.

Quality > Quantity is what i always tell ppl.
Doesnt matter if ppl join a corp with a **** load of members if most are terrible.

I hear undead has his own private jet...maybe he's gifting them with merc packs?

(FTR, I am just kidding. It was just too open not to throw that in there :) )

Wait.... didnt hellstorm beat synergy.
Wait wait wait..... didnt unreal beat synergy?

Wait wait wait wait... didnt a large majority of good players from unreal join hellstorm?

Maybe my memory is skewed.....

As I said before z and the arrogance guys and squagga and his guys joined hellstorm because they like the way we run stuff, they like our player base not because they are good but because they are good people.

I have no beef with you mavado but trash talking a corp that has beaten you just doesnt match up....

Thanks for the feedback guys, I'll look into a new more readable font for future reports.



The Corporations in that list are in the top 100 in terms of earned WP. If they hit the top 100 rankings, or hold a district in PC they will be added to my list. If I tracked all the Corporations with any affiliation It would be to cluttered.

Interesting that a hellstorm member said this

I see. Just didnt want them to think they're being slighted.

is orion empire the biggest dust allince?

Wait.... didnt hellstorm beat synergy.
Wait wait wait..... didnt unreal beat synergy?

Wait wait wait wait... didnt a large majority of good players from unreal join hellstorm?

Maybe my memory is skewed.....

As I said before z and the arrogance guys and squagga and his guys joined hellstorm because they like the way we run stuff, they like our player base not because they are good but because they are good people.

I have no beef with you mavado but trash talking a corp that has beaten you just doesnt match up....

I thought it was Cronos, and then EoN

Orion Empire is by far the biggest DUST alliance around 3300 members
EoN. is one of the smallest DUST alliances

Orion Empire is by far the biggest DUST alliance around 3300 members
EoN. is one of the smallest DUST alliances

I never called any of those players trash, don't put words in my mouth.

Don't you have some spills to be mopping up or something

Wait.... didnt hellstorm beat synergy.
Wait wait wait..... didnt unreal beat synergy?

Wait wait wait wait... didnt a large majority of good players from unreal join hellstorm?

Maybe my memory is skewed.....

As I said before z and the arrogance guys and squagga and his guys joined hellstorm because they like the way we run stuff, they like our player base not because they are good but because they are good people.

I have no beef with you mavado but trash talking a corp that has beaten you just doesnt match up....

@mavado

Wins a win bro. And as for dominating our vehicles and infantry. .... cool story lol.

And that was not a general statement since the linked post was directly related to hellstorm and your former members.

Its ok though I forgive you. You know not what you say.

Hellstorm reminds me of the wolf from red riding hood. All big and bad

It was a wolf right? Can't remember

Because everyone else is aligning...it may be an imperative to get on board with others. But I feel that they need to get rid of the option to allow ringers.

Alliances should only be able to provide training support, financial support, trading between one another, and not attack each other's territories. But ringers shouldn't be allowed...what's the point in forming a corporation when you won't fight your own battles.

Hellstorm reminds me of the wolf from red riding hood. All big and bad

It was a wolf right? Can't remember

Merc work. Coalitions. "Blues."

You just threw away basically every other player organization potential except for Alliance.

It sounds like you want pre-defined battles rather than an open sandbox. This option should be available in arena play if/when CCP implements it. The limitation you propose makes no sense in the greater scheme of New Eden.

"Blues"? I'm not talking about Eve.......

I am also not saying that alliances in Dust shouldn't be allowed. I'm just saying that allowing anyone to join your corp match, shouldn't be allowed. I don't know how this ruins everything that Dust stands for.

The only thing that this will change is that corps will have to actually fight their own battles. If you have only 4 people in your corp, you shouldn't be able to hold districts. But according to this system, that 4-man corp can hold 5 districts depending on how large and skilled their alliance is.

This current system is almost making the corporation null and void and placing more emphasis on how strong your alliance members are.

yeah, I dig it but after a certain amount...what's the point? If a corp has $20B or $5B...the significance of the difference means nothing. Especially, when there aren't any billion ISK worth of gear.

At least, without ringers, corps can say that they are the best or they are one of the best.

Pretty sure it was a wolf but I could be mistaken....

But thanks for the compliment

Lol cleaning toilets.... well as it stands now hellstorm 1 synergy 0...

Anything you say does not detract from the fact that you guys lost. So when PC comes put on your big boy pants and we will see who is who.

So go back to flipping them burgers at micky d's son.

won by 2-3 ticks left

LOL at all the **** talking, the game sucks donkey nuts, who cares?

Really good report!

The blue on black is tough to read, a different color than blue or different background would fix that. The font doesn't help.

On top 250 players, how is that defined? Is that lifetime WP? If so, it's not an accurate measurement. I'd say WP within the last month or three months would be a more accurate gauge. Not sure if that's available in your dataset, though.

LOL at all the **** talking, the game sucks donkey nuts, who cares?

Really good report!

The blue on black is tough to read, a different color than blue or different background would fix that. The font doesn't help.

On top 250 players, how is that defined? Is that lifetime WP? If so, it's not an accurate measurement. I'd say WP within the last month or three months would be a more accurate gauge. Not sure if that's available in your dataset, though.

For now its lifetime WP, I could do recently active but I think that is a less meaningful metric. To be in the lifetime top 250 we are talking many hundreds of hours. These are the players with the most SP and the most overall battlefield experience. Another thing to note is that if a player is not highly active they fall from the top rankings quickly. There are a few exceptions of course, players who quit after massive play, however despite the drama in the forums that number is extremely small. I can look for the next report and see how many of the top 250 are not playing anymore, I think its around 5-10.

At the end of the day weekly active tracking without crest would still be limited to top 1000 because of the leaderboard, and require at least 5x more work than top 250 tracking, so even if its marginally better (I personally don't think it is) it is not possible at this point for me.

I thought it was kills >.< wps boring....

For now its lifetime WP, I could do recently active but I think that is a less meaningful metric. To be in the lifetime top 250 we are talking many hundreds of hours. These are the players with the most SP and the most overall battlefield experience. Another thing to note is that if a player is not highly active they fall from the top rankings quickly. There are a few exceptions of course, players who quit after massive play, however despite the drama in the forums that number is extremely small. I can look for the next report and see how many of the top 250 are not playing anymore, I think its around 5-10.

At the end of the day weekly active tracking without crest would still be limited to top 1000 because of the leaderboard, and require at least 5x more work than top 250 tracking, so even if its marginally better (I personally don't think it is) it is not possible at this point for me.

It was actually by more than 60& armor on the MCC, we held two objectives exclusively the entire match, you flipped the second objective, we responded by taking your objective behind you, I recorded it, don't lie and say you won by 2-3 ticks.

You guys realize this game is based on Mercenary work right? How can you poach when everyone is supposed to be Mercs?

I take it the other 44 "top 100 corps" have no alliance? I only counted 66 on that page.

http://i.imgur.com/lGsTrUl.jpg

EDIT: included image, and I forgot to tell you how great of a job you did, keep up the good work!