So tonight during an FW match I rounded a corner and ran head on into a heavy. My blood ran cold as I accepted my fate; I was only about 2ft in front of him and I knew his HMG would tear me to shreds.

That guy was either already damaged or a terrible player. Im a heavy so i would know.

Full shield and armor on him - I watched his bars deplete as I mag dumped the Toxin into his chest.

Got in a knife fight with 2 heavies... killed one ran away... came back OHK the other and then proceeded to hunt the first one as he spawned in with gastuns and was being an overall douche.

Heavies were 1v1able in chromosome but now they are a an easy source of points.

Then he was either bad or got messed up by the aiming system we currently have

O.o are you sure that it was a full blown heavy? Or that a blue berry didn't help you out in taking him out? Or a sniper for that matter? CCP just gave our hmg's a buff the other day and we are doing awesome. I went 45/8 and 40/5 yesterday so im having a little difficulty in believing this. I don't doubt that you didn't kill him but there has to be something else for this to happen.

Also think about it your mini assault suit has 650 hp the heavy probably had about 800-900 hp. Shields are an hmg's annoyance.

You where probably flanking him fast enough that he couldn't track you with his HMG adequately. there is this little area where a HMG works. to far away and the hmg barely does any damage, but if your in his face like literally in his face he cant track you when you circle him because your bouncing around fast enough that he kind of has to wave his hmg all over the place just to hit you. this ones dangerous though because to get in his face you have to cross that are where he will destroy you if he sees you before you could get there.

He was probably surprised when you turned that corner and started waving his hmg around trying to hit you.

Heavies should have never been 1v1 unless you could out maneuver them as a scout. It should take at least 2 people with militia gear to take one out, 3 if he's using ADV gear.
AR cryhards need to stop QQing about something that's supposed to be their effective counter.

O.o are you sure that it was a full blown heavy? Or that a blue berry didn't help you out in taking him out? Or a sniper for that matter? CCP just gave our hmg's a buff the other day and we are doing awesome. I went 45/8 and 40/5 yesterday so im having a little difficulty in believing this. I don't doubt that you didn't kill him but there has to be something else for this to happen.

Also think about it your mini assault suit has 650 hp the heavy probably had about 800-900 hp. Shields are an hmg's annoyance.

You where probably flanking him fast enough that he couldn't track you with his HMG adequately. there is this little area where a HMG works. to far away and the hmg barely does any damage, but if your in his face like literally in his face he cant track you when you circle him because your bouncing around fast enough that he kind of has to wave his hmg all over the place just to hit you. this ones dangerous though because to get in his face you have to cross that are where he will destroy you if he sees you before you could get there.

He was probably surprised when you turned that corner and started waving his hmg around trying to hit you.

So tonight during an FW match I rounded a corner and ran head on into a heavy. My blood ran cold as I accepted my fate; I was only about 2ft in front of him and I knew his HMG would tear me to shreds. Now I use the Amarr Asault mk.0 with 400 armor and 250 shield but still figured my death would be quick. In desperation I switched from my ELM-7 to my Toxin SMG and unloaded into this heavy.

I killed him with only my shields depleted and 20 points taken out of my armor (which my repairer was already starting to rep).

I felt AWFUL.

This was a full blown heavy with HMG two feet in front of my face unloading his HMG into me and I simply took him out with the Toxin. IDK what you did CCP but I used to fear heavies, now I know to simply rush them. I don't play heavies at all, but after my encounter tonight I see that the HMG needs some love.

Heavies should have never been 1v1 unless you could out maneuver them as a scout. It should take at least 2 people with militia gear to take one out, 3 if he's using ADV gear.
AR cryhards need to stop QQing about something that's supposed to be their effective counter.

That guy was either already damaged or a terrible player. Im a heavy so i would know.
That or the wierd aiming we have now messed him up

1) I was in Amarr Assault using armor plates bumping my HP up to 400 and I had a shield extender (along with my shields skills) so my shield was at 250...idk where you got mini and those numbers.

Whoops sorry man i saw assault mk.0 and thought you ment mini. I thought amarr assault suits where ak.0's though?

Well i don't know how he went down like that then. weird.

I made a heavy with an alt that had about 1.2 million SP.

Most kills I have got so far in this build LOL

Went 16 - 2

Not great at all I guess but for me it was the best I have did so far with the new system.

/shrug

I too run heavy and have had several similar experiences such as that, along with getting torn to shreds from longer ranges as well.
lvl5 gun skills and about 1k hp on my suit.

Now, I'm not the best player out there, but I'm certainly not the worst either and I've been beaten more often than not in situations where I think I should have won the battle.

I dont know if you are referring to me as a AR cryhard.... lol

Not tryna sound mean but, that heavy could have been bad. As a heavy myself I run into pretty bad ones sometimes. Ran into an all proto heavy a couple days ago, straight 1v1, and he didn't get 1/4 of my shields. i was using Adv. everything.

LOL

I have never gotten that in my heavy since the new build (almost 8m SP toon)

Only time I get anywhere close to those numbers is when I run something OTHER than my heavy...


best my heavy's ever done now is breaking even around 8/8

o/
Bill

Not tryna sound mean but, that heavy could have been bad. As a heavy myself I run into pretty bad ones sometimes. Ran into an all proto heavy a couple days ago, straight 1v1, and he didn't get 1/4 of my shields. i was using Adv. everything.

1v1 my knives lance

I dare you.....muhahahahahaha

urgh... ran into a dude the other day that was knifing people...almost got me a couple times. They really need to increase the turn speed slightly on heavies. If an Amarr assault suit can run circles around me, imagine what scouts do smh

urgh... ran into a dude the other day that was knifing people...almost got me a couple times. They really need to increase the turn speed slightly on heavies. If an Amarr assault suit can run circles around me, imagine what scouts do smh

urgh... ran into a dude the other day that was knifing people...almost got me a couple times. They really need to increase the turn speed slightly on heavies. If an Amarr assault suit can run circles around me, imagine what scouts do smh

I do have to agree

So tonight during an FW match I rounded a corner and ran head on into a heavy. My blood ran cold as I accepted my fate; I was only about 2ft in front of him and I knew his HMG would tear me to shreds. Now I use the Amarr Asault mk.0 with 400 armor and 250 shield but still figured my death would be quick. In desperation I switched from my ELM-7 to my Toxin SMG and unloaded into this heavy.

I killed him with only my shields depleted and 20 points taken out of my armor (which my repairer was already starting to rep).

I felt AWFUL.

This was a full blown heavy with HMG two feet in front of my face unloading his HMG into me and I simply took him out with the Toxin. IDK what you did CCP but I used to fear heavies, now I know to simply rush them. I don't play heavies at all, but after my encounter tonight I see that the HMG needs some love.

You don't wanna run like that without two logis man. Stacking armor mods makes you slow in running and turning. I understand the thought that the more HP you have the better you do but you'll do better with two damage mods two armor reps and one armor plate. It keeps you less sluggish than other heavies plus the reps really help you out after killing someone because your always being repped. Logis rep you faster as well because of it. also a big part of it is your damage. a heavies damage is one of his biggest buffers. with the damage mods your damage increases a tiny bit yes but it really helps alot because of your 2000 rof. Keep out of guys lines of sight after you kill one so that you can reload and start your shield and armor reps up. Try to get in a spot where you can kill a guy without the other two seing you. If you get him fast enough he won't have musch time to take out much more of your shields. And of course nothing beats tactics. Most of this stuff is obvious i know but it helps.

Not saying the Heavies don't need a buff, but that player may have just been really really bad.

Some tips for heavy:

- Get people to close in, but not to much because you can't turn unless you crank your sensitivity to 100 and even then you will have trpunle tracking evading players.

- Try not to attract more than 1 dude at a time, you will be flanked and you can't run away or jump over 1 feet tall fences. You will struggle anyway in 1 vs 1 anyway if he is in front of you.

- Hide in a corner and attack from behind then go and hide again.

- Use flux grenades to overcome your lack of gun effectiveness against shield.

- don't tank too much, you are supposed to be support, follow others ....Guys, wait for me!

- Make yourself harder to hit. Even though you are bigger than the boxes you hide behind.

- Don't fire at a guy you see only 50% of is body since he is behing cover. You won't even touch him.

- Square dance...

- Use your HMG big DPS to overcome your downsides..650 of spreaded all over the place DPS.

- Play in small area, in smaller maps. (where is this anyway?)

- Move with a LAV and jump out to kill. Oh wait, now your stupid enough to jump in front of the LAV...how can you do that anyway.

- Use Dmg mods and shield extender...oh well, you got only 1 or 2 high just do with 1 of each.

- Don't run armor plates, they make you slower, use repper....giving you 900HP just a little better than the fast and efficient Logi and Assault.

- Arg, **** it, just play starter assault. You'll do just fine.