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undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
396
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:29:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Not tryna sound mean but, that heavy could have been bad. As a heavy myself I run into pretty bad ones sometimes. Ran into an all proto heavy a couple days ago, straight 1v1, and he didn't get 1/4 of my shields. i was using Adv. everything.
1v1 my knives lance
I dare you.....muhahahahahaha |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1557
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:30:00 -
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bcs1a wrote:II-X-II wrote:I made a heavy with an alt that had about 1.2 million SP.
Most kills I have got so far in this build LOL
Went 16 - 2
Not great at all I guess but for me it was the best I have did so far with the new system.
/shrug LOL I have never gotten that in my heavy since the new build (almost 8m SP toon) Only time I get anywhere close to those numbers is when I run something OTHER than my heavy... best my heavy's ever done now is breaking even around 8/8 o/ Bill
Heavies now are even more situational than last build. They suit certain maps, and certain areas on those maps. I've gotten a few 20+ games, and a couple 30+
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1728
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:32:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Not tryna sound mean but, that heavy could have been bad. As a heavy myself I run into pretty bad ones sometimes. Ran into an all proto heavy a couple days ago, straight 1v1, and he didn't get 1/4 of my shields. i was using Adv. everything.
SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
207
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:32:00 -
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*Takes out 4 people foolish enough to rush together side by side*
Hm? Oh - yea - I agree - Buff the HMG :D |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1557
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:32:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Not tryna sound mean but, that heavy could have been bad. As a heavy myself I run into pretty bad ones sometimes. Ran into an all proto heavy a couple days ago, straight 1v1, and he didn't get 1/4 of my shields. i was using Adv. everything.
1v1 my knives lance I dare you.....muhahahahahaha
urgh... ran into a dude the other day that was knifing people...almost got me a couple times. They really need to increase the turn speed slightly on heavies. If an Amarr assault suit can run circles around me, imagine what scouts do smh |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1728
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:34:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Not tryna sound mean but, that heavy could have been bad. As a heavy myself I run into pretty bad ones sometimes. Ran into an all proto heavy a couple days ago, straight 1v1, and he didn't get 1/4 of my shields. i was using Adv. everything.
1v1 my knives lance I dare you.....muhahahahahaha urgh... ran into a dude the other day that was knifing people...almost got me a couple times. They really need to increase the turn speed slightly on heavies. If an Amarr assault suit can run circles around me, imagine what scouts do smh
I do have to agree |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
207
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:35:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Not tryna sound mean but, that heavy could have been bad. As a heavy myself I run into pretty bad ones sometimes. Ran into an all proto heavy a couple days ago, straight 1v1, and he didn't get 1/4 of my shields. i was using Adv. everything.
1v1 my knives lance I dare you.....muhahahahahaha urgh... ran into a dude the other day that was knifing people...almost got me a couple times. They really need to increase the turn speed slightly on heavies. If an Amarr assault suit can run circles around me, imagine what scouts do smh PRO TIP: Nova Knifers are terrible themselves at close combat aiming there hits. Dance a bit and look at there movements. Then just line up that shot and GG.
Nova Knifers - even before the buff I never feared you. But glad to see you guys can finally get passed my shields if you're lucky enough ;) |
Dante Dragonsguard
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
25
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:41:00 -
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Quote: urgh... ran into a dude the other day that was knifing people...almost got me a couple times. They really need to increase the turn speed slightly on heavies. If an Amarr assault suit can run circles around me, imagine what scouts do smh
Increase your sensitivity it increases your turn rate. You have to get used to it though. it really helps. i think our turning speed is fine right now. Also when your firing your hmg and turn it slows your turning speed down a bit. sometimes it's better to stop firing readjust quickly and resume fire. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
116
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Posted - 2013.05.12 05:05:00 -
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meh I tear heavies a new one alot of the time, but the skilled ones stille turn me into swiss cheese, it was probably the heavy you were facing |
bcs1a
ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse
31
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:49:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Not tryna sound mean but, that heavy could have been bad. As a heavy myself I run into pretty bad ones sometimes. Ran into an all proto heavy a couple days ago, straight 1v1, and he didn't get 1/4 of my shields. i was using Adv. everything.
1v1 my knives lance I dare you.....muhahahahahaha urgh... ran into a dude the other day that was knifing people...almost got me a couple times. They really need to increase the turn speed slightly on heavies. If an Amarr assault suit can run circles around me, imagine what scouts do smh I do have to agree
as do I...
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rpastry
Carbon 7
38
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Posted - 2013.05.12 10:25:00 -
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the hmg user used to be an interesting challenge to kill, now they're a sitting duck - no range, cant turn, every bullet hits them.
extinction beckons, even my diehard heavy corp buddy has given up. |
Zhar Ptitsaa
The Red Guards EoN.
71
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Posted - 2013.05.12 10:43:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:So tonight during an FW match I rounded a corner and ran head on into a heavy. My blood ran cold as I accepted my fate; I was only about 2ft in front of him and I knew his HMG would tear me to shreds. Now I use the Amarr Asault mk.0 with 400 armor and 250 shield but still figured my death would be quick. In desperation I switched from my ELM-7 to my Toxin SMG and unloaded into this heavy.
I killed him with only my shields depleted and 20 points taken out of my armor (which my repairer was already starting to rep).
I felt AWFUL.
This was a full blown heavy with HMG two feet in front of my face unloading his HMG into me and I simply took him out with the Toxin. IDK what you did CCP but I used to fear heavies, now I know to simply rush them. I don't play heavies at all, but after my encounter tonight I see that the HMG needs some love.
HMG's are awful at taking out shields, so he most likely spent all the time on ur shields, few extra seconds he would've torn through your armour |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
66
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Posted - 2013.05.12 10:43:00 -
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Sniper helped you. Im telling this as a sniper, im doing it a lot when I see any of my teammate fighting with a heavy. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens Orion Empire
181
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Posted - 2013.05.12 10:49:00 -
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You say "Toxin SMG" ... i'm slowly becoming a fan of the SMG's. I tryed using the Militia one yesterday, and is a sweet, sweet weapon. I may even stop using the AR, and start using the SMG... |
bcs1a
ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse
34
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Posted - 2013.05.13 16:35:00 -
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Dante Dragonsguard wrote:Quote: I too run heavy and have had several similar experiences such as that, along with getting torn to shreds from longer ranges as well. lvl5 gun skills and about 1k hp on my suit.
Now, I'm not the best player out there, but I'm certainly not the worst either and I've been beaten more often than not in situations where I think I should have won the battle. You don't wanna run like that without two logis man. Stacking armor mods makes you slow in running and turning. I understand the thought that the more HP you have the better you do but you'll do better with two damage mods two armor reps and one armor plate. It keeps you less sluggish than other heavies plus the reps really help you out after killing someone because your always being repped. Logis rep you faster as well because of it. also a big part of it is your damage. a heavies damage is one of his biggest buffers. with the damage mods your damage increases a tiny bit yes but it really helps alot because of your 2000 rof. Keep out of guys lines of sight after you kill one so that you can reload and start your shield and armor reps up. Try to get in a spot where you can kill a guy without the other two seing you. If you get him fast enough he won't have musch time to take out much more of your shields. And of course nothing beats tactics. Most of this stuff is obvious i know but it helps.
yeah, just nowhere near that suit yet.. maybe after tomorrow....
o/ Bill
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Tiberion Deci
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
154
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Posted - 2013.05.13 16:40:00 -
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RHYTHMIK Designs wrote:Not saying the Heavies don't need a buff, but that player may have just been really really bad.
This. I've started running the smg as my secondary and it is surprisingly powerful (even the militia) if you can get the rounds on target (easy against a heavy) but yeah if you turned the corner on me you probably would have eaten lead and hit the ground fast.That guy may jjust be really awful or not paying attention.
But yes mire hp would be nice :). Or hmg range |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3004
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Posted - 2013.05.13 16:53:00 -
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To be fair, HMG sucks vs shields and SMG owns vs armor, but yea, heavies are kind of....odd, right now. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
91
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Posted - 2013.05.13 17:20:00 -
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Some tips for heavy:
- Get people to close in, but not to much because you can't turn.
- Try not to attract more than 1 dude at a time, you will be flanked and you can't run away or jump over 1 feet tall fences. You will struggle anyway in 1 vs 1 anyway if he is in front of you.
- Hide in a corner and attack from behind then go and hide again.
- Use flux grenades to overcome your lack of gun effectiveness against shield.
- don't tank too much, you are supposed to be support, follow others ....Guys, wait for me!
- Make yourself harder to hit. Even though you are bigger than the boxes you hide behind.
- Don't fire at a guy you see only 50% of is body since he is behing cover. You won't even touch him.
- Strafe...
- Use your HMG big DPS to overcome your downsides..650 of spreaded all over the place DPS.
- Play in small area, in smaller maps. (where is this anyway?)
- Move with a LAV and jump out to kill. Oh wait, now your stupid enough to jump in front of the LAV...how can you do that anyway.
- Use Dmg mods and shield extender...oh well, you got only 1 or 2 high just do with 1 of each.
- Don't run armor plates, they make you slower, use repper....giving you 900HP just a little better than the fast and efficient Logi and Assault.
- Arg, **** it, just play starter assault. You'll do just fine.
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Tiberion Deci
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
154
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Posted - 2013.05.13 17:48:00 -
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martinofski wrote:Some tips for heavy: - Get people to close in, but not to much because you can't turn unless you crank your sensitivity to 100 and even then you will have trpunle tracking evading players. - Try not to attract more than 1 dude at a time, you will be flanked and you can't run away or jump over 1 feet tall fences. You will struggle anyway in 1 vs 1 anyway if he is in front of you. - Hide in a corner and attack from behind then go and hide again. - Use flux grenades to overcome your lack of gun effectiveness against shield. - don't tank too much, you are supposed to be support, follow others ....Guys, wait for me! - Make yourself harder to hit. Even though you are bigger than the boxes you hide behind. - Don't fire at a guy you see only 50% of is body since he is behing cover. You won't even touch him. - Square dance... - Use your HMG big DPS to overcome your downsides..650 of spreaded all over the place DPS. - Play in small area, in smaller maps. (where is this anyway?) - Move with a LAV and jump out to kill. Oh wait, now your stupid enough to jump in front of the LAV...how can you do that anyway. - Use Dmg mods and shield extender...oh well, you got only 1 or 2 high just do with 1 of each. - Don't run armor plates, they make you slower, use repper....giving you 900HP just a little better than the fast and efficient Logi and Assault. - Arg, **** it, just play starter assault. You'll do just fine.
FTFY
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bill the noon
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
21
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Posted - 2013.05.13 18:07:00 -
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What i hate is how my success is now determined not but what i do, but whether the enemy rushes me or not. Ive taken to running solo because when i runn with assault and logi suits they tend to begin an engagement at AR range leaving me scrambling for cover. |
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