DUST Search - CCP catering TOO much to mouse and keyboard controls

Buster Friently wrote:

TheMarkOf22 wrote:

Buster Friently wrote:

TheMarkOf22 wrote:

From what I hear and see you can customize controls on mouse, set faster turn speeds and even move faster in some cases (not sure if it's patched)

Now on the controller, I play on 100/100 and my ADS speed is FAR too slow, I can't even track moving targets, it's even slower then last build.

You need to fix the controller's turn speed, and ADS speed.

ADS rotation setting would be ideal, and increasing non-ADS speed option by tripling the highest turn speed setting, when compared to COD these setting are laughable.

Also, holding R2 and L3 to set squad order needs to be removed, make a Universal objective that can be set by hitting circle.

Any giving suits with no side arms, no quick swap option is a HUGE problem.

You can do none of these things with the kbm. You heard wrong.

Mouse has a sensitivity slider. That's the extent of it's customization currently. You know the settings menu exists for everyone. You can just look in there and see what can be done.

Even in that case i'm completely wrong, you can still set a dpi to increase sensitivity right?

Only if you have a mouse that has hardware support for multiple dpi settings. This doesn't really work well on the PS3 though, or at least in Dust. There seems to be an upper limit.

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TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 122	Posted - 2013.05.10 17:57:00 - [1] - Quote From what I hear and see you can customize controls on mouse, set faster turn speeds and even move faster in some cases (not sure if it's patched) Now on the controller, I play on 100/100 and my ADS speed is FAR too slow, I can't even track moving targets, it's even slower then last build. You need to fix the controller's turn speed, and ADS speed. ADS rotation setting would be ideal, and increasing non-ADS speed option by tripling the highest turn speed setting, when compared to COD these setting are laughable. Also, holding R2 and L3 to set squad order needs to be removed, make a Universal objective that can be set by hitting circle. Any giving suits with no side arms, no quick swap option is a HUGE problem.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 385	Posted - 2013.05.10 17:59:00 - [2] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: From what I hear and see you can customize controls on mouse, set faster turn speeds and even move faster in some cases (not sure if it's patched) Now on the controller, I play on 100/100 and my ADS speed is FAR too slow, I can't even track moving targets, it's even slower then last build. You need to fix the controller's turn speed, and ADS speed. ADS rotation setting would be ideal, and increasing non-ADS speed option by tripling the highest turn speed setting, when compared to COD these setting are laughable. Also, holding R2 and L3 to set squad order needs to be removed, make a Universal objective that can be set by hitting circle. Any giving suits with no side arms, no quick swap option is a HUGE problem. You can do none of these things with the kbm. You heard wrong. Mouse has a sensitivity slider. That's the extent of it's customization currently. You know the settings menu exists for everyone. You can just look in there and see what can be done.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 718	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:01:00 - [3] - Quote I still can't swap my freaking trigger buttons without a bunch of other, unnecessary changes to the control layout.
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 122	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:01:00 - [4] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: From what I hear and see you can customize controls on mouse, set faster turn speeds and even move faster in some cases (not sure if it's patched) Now on the controller, I play on 100/100 and my ADS speed is FAR too slow, I can't even track moving targets, it's even slower then last build. You need to fix the controller's turn speed, and ADS speed. ADS rotation setting would be ideal, and increasing non-ADS speed option by tripling the highest turn speed setting, when compared to COD these setting are laughable. Also, holding R2 and L3 to set squad order needs to be removed, make a Universal objective that can be set by hitting circle. Any giving suits with no side arms, no quick swap option is a HUGE problem. You can do none of these things with the kbm. You heard wrong. Mouse has a sensitivity slider. That's the extent of it's customization currently. You know the settings menu exists for everyone. You can just look in there and see what can be done. Even in that case i'm completely wrong, you can still set a dpi to increase sensitivity right?
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 122	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:02:00 - [5] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: From what I hear and see you can customize controls on mouse, set faster turn speeds and even move faster in some cases (not sure if it's patched) Now on the controller, I play on 100/100 and my ADS speed is FAR too slow, I can't even track moving targets, it's even slower then last build. You need to fix the controller's turn speed, and ADS speed. ADS rotation setting would be ideal, and increasing non-ADS speed option by tripling the highest turn speed setting, when compared to COD these setting are laughable. Also, holding R2 and L3 to set squad order needs to be removed, make a Universal objective that can be set by hitting circle. Any giving suits with no side arms, no quick swap option is a HUGE problem. You can do none of these things with the kbm. You heard wrong. Mouse has a sensitivity slider. That's the extent of it's customization currently. You know the settings menu exists for everyone. You can just look in there and see what can be done. Even in that case i'm completely wrong, you can still set a dpi to increase sensitivity right? Players with a mouse moved tanks faster last build...
Buster Friently Rosen Association 385	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:08:00 - [6] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: From what I hear and see you can customize controls on mouse, set faster turn speeds and even move faster in some cases (not sure if it's patched) Now on the controller, I play on 100/100 and my ADS speed is FAR too slow, I can't even track moving targets, it's even slower then last build. You need to fix the controller's turn speed, and ADS speed. ADS rotation setting would be ideal, and increasing non-ADS speed option by tripling the highest turn speed setting, when compared to COD these setting are laughable. Also, holding R2 and L3 to set squad order needs to be removed, make a Universal objective that can be set by hitting circle. Any giving suits with no side arms, no quick swap option is a HUGE problem. You can do none of these things with the kbm. You heard wrong. Mouse has a sensitivity slider. That's the extent of it's customization currently. You know the settings menu exists for everyone. You can just look in there and see what can be done. Even in that case i'm completely wrong, you can still set a dpi to increase sensitivity right? Only if you have a mouse that has hardware support for multiple dpi settings. This doesn't really work well on the PS3 though, or at least in Dust. There seems to be an upper limit.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 231	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:25:00 - [7] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: From what I hear and see you can customize controls on mouse, set faster turn speeds and even move faster in some cases (not sure if it's patched) Now on the controller, I play on 100/100 and my ADS speed is FAR too slow, I can't even track moving targets, it's even slower then last build. You need to fix the controller's turn speed, and ADS speed. ADS rotation setting would be ideal, and increasing non-ADS speed option by tripling the highest turn speed setting, when compared to COD these setting are laughable. Also, holding R2 and L3 to set squad order needs to be removed, make a Universal objective that can be set by hitting circle. Any giving suits with no side arms, no quick swap option is a HUGE problem. You can do none of these things with the kbm. You heard wrong. Mouse has a sensitivity slider. That's the extent of it's customization currently. You know the settings menu exists for everyone. You can just look in there and see what can be done. Even in that case i'm completely wrong, you can still set a dpi to increase sensitivity right? Only if you have a mouse that has hardware support for multiple dpi settings. This doesn't really work well on the PS3 though, or at least in Dust. There seems to be an upper limit. Upper limit seems to be at 3000 DPI if i crank my mouse passed that it becomes erratic or stops working, but even at 3000 DPI its way out of controllable, if you havent tried it, dont bash it. I played at 1400 DPI...witch is currently also erratic. BTW the movement speed increase was bugged and could only be used when using the DS3 and Keyboard together at the same time, i dont have 4 arms, dunno about you but those abusing strafing speeds & others were playing DS3 with their hands and had a Keyboard at their feet. Fun times i guess....
SherIock Holmes Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:26:00 - [8] - Quote The majority of your turn speed depends on your suit.
total masshole Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:27:00 - [9] - Quote yea and on top of it all now that they've nerfed nearly all weapons the MKB users have even more of an advantage since the game has become even more circle strafe based..
Alina Heart DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement 117	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:31:00 - [10] - Quote Holy Shizz, Mark doesn't use KBM!? You seriously made me feel like a scrub yesterday(If you even noticed me) you and that Duvolle TAC is amazing. I thought you were using KBM with that fire speed and accuracy.

TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 122	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:35:00 - [11] - Quote Alina Heart wrote: Holy Shizz, Mark doesn't use KBM!? You seriously made me feel like a scrub yesterday(If you even noticed me) you and that Duvolle TAC is amazing. I thought you were using KBM with that fire speed and accuracy. lol strictly ds3, never liked playing games at a desk.
Rurouni Kenshin Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:36:00 - [12] - Quote total masshole wrote: yea and on top of it all now that they've nerfed nearly all weapons the MKB users have even more of an advantage since the game has become even more circle strafe based.. Doesn't controllers have an advantage over kbm in regards to circle strafing as it doesn't need to lift the mouse and start again from the other side in the middle of a gun battle?
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 283	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:36:00 - [13] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: From what I hear and see you can customize controls on mouse, set faster turn speeds and even move faster in some cases (not sure if it's patched) Now on the controller, I play on 100/100 and my ADS speed is FAR too slow, I can't even track moving targets, it's even slower then last build. You need to fix the controller's turn speed, and ADS speed. ADS rotation setting would be ideal, and increasing non-ADS speed option by tripling the highest turn speed setting, when compared to COD these setting are laughable. Also, holding R2 and L3 to set squad order needs to be removed, make a Universal objective that can be set by hitting circle. And giving suits with no side arms, no quick swap option is a HUGE problem. The aim is like Socom4 people can out run ya cross hairs lol Thank Zipper!
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 122	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:36:00 - [14] - Quote total masshole wrote: yea and on top of it all now that they've nerfed nearly all weapons the MKB users have even more of an advantage since the game has become even more circle strafe based.. The semi-auto weapons are definitely advantageous with a mouse.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 232	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:47:00 - [15] - Quote Rurouni Kenshin wrote: total masshole wrote: yea and on top of it all now that they've nerfed nearly all weapons the MKB users have even more of an advantage since the game has become even more circle strafe based.. Doesn't controllers have an advantage over kbm in regards to circle strafing as it doesn't need to lift the mouse and start again from the other side in the middle of a gun battle? Depends on the player, some mouse users use long mouse movements and will need 4 pickups to turn 360 degree, others need 1 inch to do a 360. I play on 1 Inch on PC, on dust i require 10 inch to get any semblance of precise aim, in uprising everything went out of the window of what i know to be solid aim mechanics using KB/M.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2902	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:06:00 - [16] - Quote Some mice and some keyboards have built in remapping and sensitivity controls. The new build has broken the ability for players to circumvent the turn speed cap by using these functions like you could in Chromosome. None of this was actually built into the game, and what they need to dois give EVERYONE the ability to customise controls, instead of only supporting those of us who pay for modded/moddable control options, whether that's a third-party gamepad or a customisable mouse and/or keyboard. They also need to let us choose between aim acceleration and scaling, or have both, on the sixaxis, because acceleration breaks competent aiming, and we still don't have enough of a variation in turn speed from a gentle tilt of the controller to slamming it all the way. And for mouse users, they really, really, REALLY need to remove acceleration because mouse aim acceleration is the most kittened up idea in the history of ever.
BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 127	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:09:00 - [17] - Quote A BIG +1 for the circle-pressed objective setting. The squad command method needs to go. As far as DS turn speed... I have no idea. I'm a PC master-race type, can't wait to try out corrected mouse sensitivity options.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 21	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:16:00 - [18] - Quote ds3 ads is too slow and hipfire aiming too fast. hit detection is terrible. a seperate setting for each type of aiming wud be great and fix alot of the aiming issues
total masshole Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:26:00 - [19] - Quote armed with a splash nerfed MD while trying to 1vs1 a sprint/strafing scout compelled me to drop my remaining 300k sp into vehicle shielding
Schalac 17 Murderz for hire 95	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:34:00 - [20] - Quote KB/M is at a huge disadvantage in tanks and ADS as you need to do multiple passes to turn around. I play with a 1000 dpi mouse with mouse sensitivity at 90 and operating a blaster turret on my tank is a huge pain. specially when scouts are going light speed trying to outmaneuver your turret to get a RE placed on you. Was thinking of trying out my buddies joystick combo in a tank later this weekend to see if that would be better. For FG sniping though KB/M is ****.

Buster Friently Rosen Association 387	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:00:00 - [21] - Quote For the record, I use a trackball. I don't have to pick it up to reposition because I don't run out of mouse travel space. Trackballs have their own oddities though, so they aren't for everyone. Even with max sensitivity on, the response is pretty sluggish compared to my PC.
Nyctohylophobia Kinsho Swords Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:17:00 - [22] - Quote Player using controller complains about CCP giving KBM much needed attention. Forgets that his toy comes with auto-aim, intended for the instant gratification-generation. Hilarity ensues.
Alina Heart DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement 117	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:19:00 - [23] - Quote Nyctohylophobia wrote: Player using controller complains about CCP giving KBM much needed attention. Forgets that his toy comes with auto-aim, intended for the instant gratification-generation. Hilarity ensues. You have no idea what your talking about, do you?
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 164	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:19:00 - [24] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: ADS rotation setting would be ideal, and increasing non-ADS speed option by tripling the highest turn speed setting, when compared to COD these setting are laughable. Anyone give two squirts of **** about CoD controller settings? I know I don't. Last I heard, the name of this game was Dust5-1-4
Schalac 17 Murderz for hire 95	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:21:00 - [25] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: For the record, I use a trackball. I don't have to pick it up to reposition because I don't run out of mouse travel space. Trackballs have their own oddities though, so they aren't for everyone. Even with max sensitivity on, the response is pretty sluggish compared to my PC. How many dpi is your ball? And try it at 90 instead of 100. 100 is really slow and glitchy for some reason on a 1000 dpi mouse.
Nyctohylophobia Kinsho Swords Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:23:00 - [26] - Quote Alina Heart wrote: Nyctohylophobia wrote: Player using controller complains about CCP giving KBM much needed attention. Forgets that his toy comes with auto-aim, intended for the instant gratification-generation. Hilarity ensues. You have no idea what your talking about, do you? I know that KBM is getting slowly getting there. Implemented terribly since closed beta, it is only slightly less worse now
Schalac 17 Murderz for hire 98	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:38:00 - [27] - Quote Nyctohylophobia wrote: Alina Heart wrote: Nyctohylophobia wrote: Player using controller complains about CCP giving KBM much needed attention. Forgets that his toy comes with auto-aim, intended for the instant gratification-generation. Hilarity ensues. You have no idea what your talking about, do you? I know that KBM is getting slowly getting there. Implemented terribly since closed beta, it is only slightly less worse now Slowly getting where? It still has it's problems but all in all I think all control schemes have improved with the latest build. And KB/M has auto-aim as well. Plugging in a KB/M doesn't turn it off, but I believe that is the stem of the problem controller people are having with aiming. The auto aim is now wonky, not the actual aiming interface.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 388	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:42:00 - [28] - Quote Schalac 17 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: For the record, I use a trackball. I don't have to pick it up to reposition because I don't run out of mouse travel space. Trackballs have their own oddities though, so they aren't for everyone. Even with max sensitivity on, the response is pretty sluggish compared to my PC. How many dpi is your ball? And try it at 90 instead of 100. 100 is really slow and glitchy for some reason on a 1000 dpi mouse. Running at 90%since Uprising (100% seemed glitched) I haven't gotten a chance to test it today, since the patch. Max dpi rating on my trackball is 3200dpi.
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 126	Posted - 2013.05.10 21:04:00 - [29] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: ADS rotation setting would be ideal, and increasing non-ADS speed option by tripling the highest turn speed setting, when compared to COD these setting are laughable. Anyone give two squirts of **** about CoD controller settings? I know I don't. Last I heard, the name of this game was Dust5-1-4 it's the most fluid controller settings in video game history, whether you like the game or not.
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 126	Posted - 2013.05.10 21:05:00 - [30] - Quote Nyctohylophobia wrote: Player using controller complains about CCP giving KBM much needed attention. Forgets that his toy comes with auto-aim, intended for the instant gratification-generation. Hilarity ensues. I'm better then 99% on the ds3 and the results would be the same if I used a mouse.



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