You're a scout. Why do you need two?

Let the Logi carry the equipment, you just focus on your speed and your shotty.

Besides, what you're describing is a lone wolf scenario. Active scanner to warn you of baddies and an uplink to spawn back at your favorite camp spot.

This game attempts to look down at the lone wolf and give the teamplayers bonuses.

If you want to go out alone, you have to deal with the little equipment / limited ammo / 0 survivability. If you want to travel in a group, enjoy your reps / ammo / spawns / meatshields / communication / verbal abuse.

It's not lone wolf at all. The uplink is to get your team into position, not to get back to your camping spot. Scouts can't even camp, they have to be on the move at all times because of their low health. What I'm suggesting is making the scout more of a team player. Yes he would often travel alone because it's easier for enemies to spot groups, but he would still be working for the team and not himself.

While the intention is good, I can just see this becoming Sniper514.

This has been bothering me. I can understand why Assault only gets one because they should be more focused on killing, but for scout it makes no sense. They should have at least 2.

Here's why. Scouts have very low hit points, only a few shots and you're dead. They are not supposed to be engaging in much combat. So you're sneaking around all over the place and you get behind the enemies, now what? Scouts in real life carry a good bunch of gadgets with them, and in video games stealth gameplay is usually always accompanied with an assortment of gadgets. But scout can only carry one? The active scanner seems like it would be a scouts best friend, but if you carry that you can't really do anything. You just get behind lines and sit there. So a second equipment slot to carry an uplink would make sense.

Maybe there is some reason I'm missing, but it just doesn't seem very scout-like to only carry one piece of equipment around with you. Right now they are more hit-and-run assassins than scouts.

Was a scout sniper in real life bro, we carried a radio, range finder and a kit to make a hide site. Thats it.

Go on somewhere with that argument. THe only people who need equip slots are logi.

While the intention is good, I can just see this becoming Sniper514.

Yea because logis cant use snipers, right?

I'm not talking about scout snipers though. That's more of a marksmen anyways. I'm talking about the people who actually sneak into enemy bases and infiltrate and all that good stuff (which is what the current Scout specialization is supposed to be for).

I get your point and all, but balance is what worries me. Logis are the equipment dudes, I'd only be ok if it were proto scout suit.

Scouts give up the other equipment slots for more speed and high shield regen.

Logis give up speed for more slots.

Assaults are a middle ground. (1 equipment for a more tuned focus for combat)

Heavies are meaty tanks.

You have to live to your own little roles, You wouldnt be running so fast and be so undetectable with another equipment slot. (scan profile and all)

Also, where would you find the CPU and PG to fit it? Uplinks and Scanners are some of the more fitting intensive equipments you can use.

If i remember my stats correctly, a scanner and an uplink would take up 2/3's of a scout's PG. Let alone modules, weapon, and grenades.

in my eyes there are 6 types of freakin scout on this game!!!

flanker: a less common type carries drop uplink his own armor rep in low slot and uses shotgun and SMG or scrambler pistol goes around and slams into them while your team advances on your position closing the gap while the enemy is distracted

recon: goes through and spots enemies rarely ever used, carries shotgun or SMG's normally active scanner or droplinks doesn't actually fight just gets a spawn position and then watches for enemies while squad spawns in

blind spot rusher: does a form of flanking but shield tanks more often then not runs around into a blind spot and normally does a suicide run at the very last moment when the team is advancing to deal a crushing blow to the enemy while your team finishes them off at your expense.

sniper: umm... duh sniping carries nanohives and sniper rifle pre-patch used a type II scout

cost runner: tanks in a prototype suit with a powerful assault rifle normally stays near the squad and provides rushing, espionage, and sentinel support.

assassin: the rare knife runner kind of a lone wolf of sorts runs fast, fights hard, runs away faster, also uses shotgun and appears out of the sky and kills and disapears as fast as they could normally using a double backing technique

well that i my summary i have run all of them accept the cost runner but this is my summary so umm i think the specialty roles should have extra equipment slots... since there is so much SP cost for them >_>

You forgot the one who thinks he's an assault.

nope thats the cost runner :) some lest costly to run than others... making them less efficient

Scouts travel light, you want more equipment slots then give up some speed

in my eyes there are 6 types of freakin scout on this game!!!

flanker: a less common type carries drop uplink his own armor rep in low slot and uses shotgun and SMG or scrambler pistol goes around and slams into them while your team advances on your position closing the gap while the enemy is distracted

recon: goes through and spots enemies rarely ever used, carries shotgun or SMG's normally active scanner or droplinks doesn't actually fight just gets a spawn position and then watches for enemies while squad spawns in

blind spot rusher: does a form of flanking but shield tanks more often then not runs around into a blind spot and normally does a suicide run at the very last moment when the team is advancing to deal a crushing blow to the enemy while your team finishes them off at your expense.

sniper: umm... duh sniping carries nanohives and sniper rifle pre-patch used a type II scout

cost runner: tanks in a prototype suit with a powerful assault rifle normally stays near the squad and provides rushing, espionage, and sentinel support.

assassin: the rare knife runner kind of a lone wolf of sorts runs fast, fights hard, runs away faster, also uses shotgun and appears out of the sky and kills and disapears as fast as they could normally using a double backing technique

well that i my summary i have run all of them accept the cost runner but this is my summary so umm i think the specialty roles should have extra equipment slots... since there is so much SP cost for them >_>

in my eyes there are 6 types of freakin scout on this game!!!

flanker: a less common type carries drop uplink his own armor rep in low slot and uses shotgun and SMG or scrambler pistol goes around and slams into them while your team advances on your position closing the gap while the enemy is distracted

recon: goes through and spots enemies rarely ever used, carries shotgun or SMG's normally active scanner or droplinks doesn't actually fight just gets a spawn position and then watches for enemies while squad spawns in

blind spot rusher: does a form of flanking but shield tanks more often then not runs around into a blind spot and normally does a suicide run at the very last moment when the team is advancing to deal a crushing blow to the enemy while your team finishes them off at your expense.

sniper: umm... duh sniping carries nanohives and sniper rifle pre-patch used a type II scout

cost runner: tanks in a prototype suit with a powerful assault rifle normally stays near the squad and provides rushing, espionage, and sentinel support.

assassin: the rare knife runner kind of a lone wolf of sorts runs fast, fights hard, runs away faster, also uses shotgun and appears out of the sky and kills and disapears as fast as they could normally using a double backing technique

well that i my summary i have run all of them accept the cost runner but this is my summary so umm i think the specialty roles should have extra equipment slots... since there is so much SP cost for them >_>

EH?!! YOU LEFT ME OUT?!
No worries, I'll fill it in..

"GHOST" Haunts the objectives. equipped with RE, shotty, and smg. Usually a lone wolf, and unsung hero. Every time a tear runs down a pretty girls cheek, is cause a scout has fallen in battle.

Would it hurt so bad to have an active scanner on that build? Or an uplink so that if someone kills you and gets a hack down you can respawn anyway?

Because my adv Amarr logi can carry two equipments.

Because my adv Amarr logi can carry two equipments.

[quote=Hecarim Van Hohen]Because my adv Amarr logi can carry two equipments.

QQ more. Logis are OP, you even get a sidearm and will go proto eventually.

Besides, how does a Scout with a nanoinjector hurt you? Most logis I know beg for someone else to run a needle to help THEM out when they die, but nobody will becasue with one equipment all scouts and assaults need their for something else.

How does a scout with an uplink hurt you? You can still put yours down and the whole team has better options.

How does a scout with a repping hive hurt you? Now he doesnt have to run back from the middle of nowhere to your position and beg for reps or ammo, you can stay on the heavy.

How does a scout with an active scanner hurt you? You will see ahead of time people coming at you, the scanner gets no WPs anyway, and you get all the benefit of intel without lowering your gun.

How does a scout with a rep gun hurt you? Oh wait, a scout would never run a rep gun because it's insane. So you get to keep your main bread and butter job all to yourself and soak up the triage points.

Oh, and like I said before, Scouts HAD 2 equip in Chromosome, this 1 equip thing is a brand new nerf with Uprising. It makes no sense because Scouts are worse at their jobs now while Logis are so OP people spec into it to be Assaults.

For the Active Scanning question above: current state of Profile Analysis is so short range and weak that a scout build cant actually see much better than any other class. The Active Scanner is miles better than passive scanning right now, and catches loads more people than a scout could on their own. In order to actually BE far forward intel you pretty much have to equip the scanner, or get within 30m of the enemy and risk being seen.

None of those actions hurt me but undermine my purpose on the battlefield, why would I run around with my logi if I could do this faster with a scout?

Proto logi on Amarr line get max 3 equipments, we trade equipment for the sidearm.

The job of the scout is not to be seen... and hence not to get shot at. You don't need a whole lot of **** weighing you down to do that.

When you are seen and someone approaches you generally need to run. You don't need a whole lot of **** weighing you down to do this either.

Personally, I would give up my sidearm for an equipment slot, but I dont speak for all scouts. I do know that I feel like a tiny assault and nothing more right now. So I will continue to be just a shotgun assassin and offer nothing else to my team, because I dont have the utility that I did a week ago.

In the last build the advanced level scout suits offered exactly that option via two different variants.

I don't know if the current suits are organized exactly the same way -- but if I'm not mistaken I believe I looked to make sure that scouts would be able to have two slots somewhere down the road before I went for scout/sniper again.

EDIT:

However, at the moment, I have one slot -- which I use for ammo. Using a scope I can find where the enemies are pretty quickly and once they are spotted I can look for a good choke point (in combo with an appropriate place to locate) where it gets easier to pick them off even at a great distance.

Bonus points for covering a choke point, one or more objectives input screens and a not too far away stretch of real estate where battles take place when the enemy is working towards an objective near your own red line.

Sniper is a gun, not a dropsuit. Scout suits are no more effective at sniping than Assaults or Logistics or even Heavy. The gun does all the work. The Scout suit only offers mobility to get to sniper perches, but Assaults offer shields to resist countersniping, and Logi can put down an uplink plus hive to keep coming back strong.

It would be like if I were complaining that the Shotgun build needed a second equip slot. They dont, because Shotty Assaults are fine as is. Scouts, no matter what gun they run, could use more of a niche job and 2nd equip is all that they need.

Well, thanks for that nugget skippy.

I don't feel a scout needs an extra slot... plain and simple. If you want one you have to spend the time to upgrade your gear and get one.

Sounds great. Gives you something to work toward instead of instant gratification.

They should have left them with 2 equipment :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grEnGDUb9lI

Remember back when scout suits where designed to revive teamates and drop up-links?

Scouts by their nature are mostly solo players, it makes very little sense to not give them more than one equipment slot.

Maybe there is some reason I'm missing, but it just doesn't seem very scout-like to only carry one piece of equipment around with you. Right now they are more hit-and-run assassins than scouts.