It's no longer viable because you are no longer an uber powerful stomp machine?

It's no longer viable because you are no longer an uber powerful stomp machine?

It's no longer viable because you are no longer an uber powerful stomp machine?

It's no longer viable because you are no longer an uber powerful stomp machine?

Changing anything = DESTROYED GAME

Changing anything = DESTROYED GAME

I disagree. I think that there will be the opposite of a honeymoon period. People right now find some of these changes hard to stomach because they're so used to the old build. But once you play the new build enough you'll get adjusted and more comfortable with how things work. I think that some of the changes that people currently hate,we will eventually look back and say that it was for the best. Just give it some time, I'm already starting to warm up to it with a 'second impression'.

I disagree. I think that there will be the opposite of a honeymoon period. People right now find some of these changes hard to stomach because they're so used to the old build. But once you play the new build enough you'll get adjusted and more comfortable with how things work. I think that some of the changes that people currently hate,we will eventually look back and say that it was for the best. Just give it some time, I'm already starting to warm up to it with a 'second impression'.

Let me ask you doomsayers something if you were making a game and it had problems and people kept qqing raging ranting etc how would you handle the situation?

It's no longer viable because you are no longer an uber powerful stomp machine?

Let me ask you doomsayers something if you were making a game and it had problems and people kept qqing raging ranting etc how would you handle the situation?

Agree with most things, Duvolle Tactical is only viable gun right now, but you gotta admit, the LAV is much better now, easier to control and maneauver.

I am a new player with low SP and starter gear.

Without drastic changes that these 'elite" claim need to be made i am leaving the game.

So yes new players leaving after the changes is not viable.


Also if people are worried about OP "Elite" why not advocate for removing the leveling/grinding/skill point system entirely?

If you want to level the playing field then level the friggin playing field. Give everyone the same level of powers same choices regardless of how long you have played then lets see who is "elite" and who is not.

Nerfing random weapons for balance to accomplish the same thing not only does not accomplish the balance you want but breaks the game in whole new ways to be piled upon the other broken inequalities/unbalance that already exists.

Note: I have gone up against "Elite" imperfects. I do see some good game play (not elite but good team work, good aim etc)...but i have also seen terrible game play (running out into fields, not flanking, bunching up, soloing, not counter flanking etc) . I don;t know if they are relying so heavily on their SP and gear that they got lazy by letting the gear and SP carry them so they are good but are just being lazy or maybe they are not good and simply are elite because they have a gear/sp advantage. to be honest it would be nice to see imperfects come out and play with starter gear...the fact that i have never see them do that tells me that maybe they are not elite but simply relying on their gear/sp advantage to carry them.

I would start by listening to players especially the players who have been here the longest. Now I have a question for you, how many times can you make the same mistake?

If you want a game where you don't have to invest time into your charecter then I'm sorry but New Eden isn't for you. So many people here claim they don't want a CoD clone but they also call for CCP to allow players to get all the weapons and suits in the game in just a few months. Its never going to be like that... the moment I have every skill in the game that I want is the moment Dust dies for me! All I would do is log on for PC fights and the log off because SP and ISK will not have any meaning to me. EvE has been out for 10 years now, and every resident of New Eden still has a que going even after that amount of time.

I am a new player with low SP and starter gear.

Without drastic changes that these 'elite" claim need to be made i am leaving the game.

So yes new players leaving after the changes is not viable.


Also if people are worried about OP "Elite" why not advocate for removing the leveling/grinding/skill point system entirely?

If you want to level the playing field then level the friggin playing field. Give everyone the same level of powers same choices regardless of how long you have played then lets see who is "elite" and who is not.

Nerfing random weapons for balance to accomplish the same thing not only does not accomplish the balance you want but breaks the game in whole new ways to be piled upon the other broken inequalities/unbalance that already exists.

Note: I have gone up against "Elite" imperfects. I do see some good game play (not elite but good team work, good aim etc)...but i have also seen terrible game play (running out into fields, not flanking, bunching up, soloing, not counter flanking etc) . I don;t know if they are relying so heavily on their SP and gear that they got lazy by letting the gear and SP carry them so they are good but are just being lazy or maybe they are not good and simply are elite because they have a gear/sp advantage. to be honest it would be nice to see imperfects come out and play with starter gear...the fact that i have never see them do that tells me that maybe they are not elite but simply relying on their gear/sp advantage to carry them.

Also if people are worried about OP "Elite" why not advocate for removing the leveling/grinding/skill point system entirely?

If you want to level the playing field then level the friggin playing field. Give everyone the same level of powers same choices regardless of how long you have played then lets see who is "elite" and who is not.

If you want a game where you don't have to invest time into your charecter then I'm sorry but New Eden isn't for you. So many people here claim they don't want a CoD clone but they also call for CCP to allow players to get all the weapons and suits in the game in just a few months. Its never going to be like that... the moment I have every skill in the game that I want is the moment Dust dies for me! All I would do is log on for PC fights and the log off because SP and ISK will not have any meaning to me. EvE has been out for 10 years now, and every resident of New Eden still has a que going even after that amount of time.

If you think gear is what carries us you are delusional.

No it is not think. I know it is true.

I have seen the terrible game play. I have unloaded 2 clips into and dropped a grenade onto god -nova and the only thing that could ever have held him up would have been his SP/gear. I have seen imperfects run solo out into the open get hit by like 3 to 4 people then run back to cover.

Now it could be they were being lazy or having fun with their uber powers...but it was the gear and SP holding them up...not their FPS skills.

Hey guys, if you think CCP's done all right, ask yourself this: Why are there less than 5 k players on at any time? 10 k is adequate, and 20 k used to be the norm. What went wrong?

That's is what, I can only call you fanboys, have been saying for a year. Let that sink in, where have them come from a year ago? They nerfed every single thing into oblivion and yet we should wait even longer?

Sorry, you may have misunderstood me. I'm not saying you should wait for more changes. I'm saying that they changed so many things all at once that it'll take a bit for everyone to adjust to the new balance. Some nerfs went overboard, and hopefully they'll get tweaked. But on the whole I think they did a lot of things right that people will appreciate more as they play the next two weeks or so.

There was a honey moon period for Uprising?

Damn - must of missed that part...

They never published number of players online until now. Where are you getting this information?

I would start by listening to players especially the players who have been here the longest. Now I have a question for you, how many times can you make the same mistake?

Sorry, you may have misunderstood me. I'm not saying you should wait for more changes. I'm saying that they changed so many things all at once that it'll take a bit for everyone to adjust to the new balance. Some nerfs went overboard, and hopefully they'll get tweaked. But on the whole I think they did a lot of things right that people will appreciate more as they play the next two weeks or so.

Do you want me to come to your planet and take all your stuff away from you on the 14th?

you had me going until you said that LAVs were perfect last build.
You just invalidated everything else you said because if you think that, you really should actually go out and drive for a bit.

Vehicles aren't weightless cardboard that fly as soon as you hit a hill going 30. LAVs now are still far from perfect but at least i have some choices on how to map the dumb controls.

Hollow threat toward me who is probably quitting the whole game....scary.

Anyway you may be the honest sort. go play the game today in starter gear with no SP spent then screen shot your best game scores for us to see.

Allright, guys. Time for another reality check here. And let me start of by saying: JESUS CHRIST! I mean I've been reading some of the threads this guys starts, guys, and make no mistake about it: I'm praying this dude is in fact a woman, like the character he/she plays with. Not only do I hope the dude's a woman but I also pray the God that it's that time of the month, man, because if not he must be suffering from some of the most brutal hormonal imbalances known to man! Ever. Of all time! Now let me give you a couple of tips, man: Go eat some bacon and eggs, hit the gym ASAP, sleep more and stop playing this game! Right now! Maybe you'll get some testosterone running through your body.

And let me address the whole point of this thread as amusing as it is in it's ridiculousness, guys. "Welcome to the real world". Really? I mean last time I checked half of the people here who approve of this message don't even have a job! And I'm not talking about you guys being mercenaries, pencil necks! I'm talking about the real world where you guys are welcoming these self made guys at CCP who started this whole EVE thing from nothing. What have you done? I mean how can you welcome someone into the real world when you're not there yourself? Beats me! I'm flabbergasted here, guys! I mean please somebody help me out here!

Alright, guys, I've had my fun and now it's time to get serious: Get the **** out of this game! You remind me of my friends girlfriend who once once each month goes: "Oh this relationship will die, it's over, this is not working!" Only difference is that you guys do it every single day. Every. Single. Day. Then you guys come out here and go "I'm just trying to save this game". I've got news for you, you're making things worse! Stop it, guys. Stop it!

Ps. My friend's not together with the girl cause she whines about stuff one day each month. He's with her cause he's a patient nice guy

Changing anything = DESTROYED GAME

Note: I have gone up against "Elite" imperfects. I do see some good game play (not elite but good team work, good aim etc)...but i have also seen terrible game play (running out into fields, not flanking, bunching up, soloing, not counter flanking etc) . I don;t know if they are relying so heavily on their SP and gear that they got lazy by letting the gear and SP carry them so they are good but are just being lazy or maybe they are not good and simply are elite because they have a gear/sp advantage. to be honest it would be nice to see imperfects come out and play with starter gear...the fact that i have never see them do that tells me that maybe they are not elite but simply relying on their gear/sp advantage to carry them.

Uprising has caused me despair for Dust. It's just not as enjoyable as before.

It's no longer viable because you are no longer an uber powerful stomp machine?

Let me ask you doomsayers something if you were making a game and it had problems and people kept qqing raging ranting etc how would you handle the situation?

This. Bad atmosphere color scheme, bad draw distance on enemies, and the worst part unplayable mouse.

HMG is like one giant BB gun, heck if they used the HMG as a melee weapon it'll cause more dmg than its bullets :P [lol]

not to mention the tiny invisible obstacles you get stuck on, i got stuck while walking up the stairs!!

You need risk and reward in an MMO skill trees do that perfectly. They just happen to ruin this too. I am sick of this fairness stuff. When did a game become a charity session? This game isn't meant to be fair but I want new player to be able to get where I am in SP on their own time. The only currency this game has is SP, you get the same amount every week and you save up. How is the new guy going to be able to compete? Global cap on SP is just dumb and having a cap is stupid! Let it become every WP=SP that way people start off as support players and earn their way to becoming a slayer. All that is required is different and unique ways to earn WP. Like doing your role.

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Let me ask you doomsayers something if you were making a game and it had problems and people kept qqing raging ranting etc how would you handle the situation?