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Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:43:00 -
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Every time a new build comes out, it's ok the first day or two which is the honeymoon.
Now after that period of being blinded by the new paint job CCP did. You start to notice all the different kind of ugly that this game is. Here is what I noticed
Assaults suit and assault rifles sights are joke. Heavies are just target practice that can't even turn. Hit detection is so bad scouts are viable again witch can be seen as a good thing if you try hard enough. The only way to fit anything is on a logi suit of bright yellow and only have a primary. Why would you make a support role suit be able to do that? I understand the concept of a combat medic but when that medic can out shine a supposed assault role, you messed up. Not on the logi but on all the other classes.
That's only just suits, let talk about vehicles, I have a heavy alt with more tank ability than my DS, LAV, or HAV. LAVs feel like cheap rip offs of Halo vehicle. The controls were perfect last build but someone decided to make them as a sensitive as fat kid talking about his weight. DS might as well be recon vehicles, give me a camera withy he brightest flash and I can do more with that. HAVs is the finger you use to poke a bear, seems cool but it's the first thing to go when the bear is pissed.
Now on to weapons! Lets start with the best according to the forums. The TAC AR, this sight is the only reason I use this gun, loom at the damage yeah it would be amazing if hit detection actually worked. Burst is lacking either damage, range, i don't know something cause it doesn't hold up compared to the other ARs. Breach would be fine if it had the same range as the basic AR but it doesn't so it is situational at best. Normal at sights, that is all that needs to be said.
HMG feels awkward for some reason but I still melt people at CQC if I can turn that is. Forge gun is about the only gun I see to be fine.
SMG has the best sight, feel, balance of any gun but it comes at a price of no range past how far you can spit. Pistol I haven't tried because hit detection is terrible and I think I have better chances of pissing on my own boots. Nova knife on a scout works, could be better but kind of want the rest of the game fixed first.
Sniper has to be speced into to be good which is how all weapons should be. Lasers are a tickle toy to everyone except the guys allergic to aka Caldari guys.
The other weapons don't need to be talked about cause I don't see any tank or DS for swarms to be used. MD are like the middle child no one cares.
If you thought last build was bad when it became blob warfare you are going to laughing while you uninstall this clusterfuck called an AAA shooter. CCP may of done 1 or 2 things right but you broke the other 10-12 things making the game somewhat viable. |
Mr Zitro
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:51:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:It's no longer viable because you are no longer an uber powerful stomp machine? I have never see a game devolve before, I'm just here to watch and study it now. I still win even thought I get like 30 plus assists to randoms stealing kills |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:55:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Crash Monster wrote:It's no longer viable because you are no longer an uber powerful stomp machine? Changing anything = DESTROYED GAME Sorry but I couldn't hear you over all of CCP being in your mouth right now. But I have a question how much did they pay you? |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:13:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:I disagree. I think that there will be the opposite of a honeymoon period. People right now find some of these changes hard to stomach because they're so used to the old build. But once you play the new build enough you'll get adjusted and more comfortable with how things work. I think that some of the changes that people currently hate,we will eventually look back and say that it was for the best. Just give it some time, I'm already starting to warm up to it with a 'second impression'. That's is what, I can only call you fanboys, have been saying for a year. Let that sink in, where have them come from a year ago? They nerfed every single thing into oblivion and yet we should wait even longer? |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:22:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Let me ask you doomsayers something if you were making a game and it had problems and people kept qqing raging ranting etc how would you handle the situation? I would start by listening to players especially the players who have been here the longest. Now I have a question for you, how many times can you make the same mistake? |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:24:00 -
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Icy Xenosmilus wrote:Agree with most things, Duvolle Tactical is only viable gun right now, but you gotta admit, the LAV is much better now, easier to control and maneauver. LAV controls are terrible, better last build. Feels like an arcade game |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:35:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Crash Monster wrote:It's no longer viable because you are no longer an uber powerful stomp machine? I am a new player with low SP and starter gear. Without drastic changes that these 'elite" claim need to be made i am leaving the game. So yes new players leaving after the changes is not viable. Also if people are worried about OP "Elite" why not advocate for removing the leveling/grinding/skill point system entirely? If you want to level the playing field then level the friggin playing field. Give everyone the same level of powers same choices regardless of how long you have played then lets see who is "elite" and who is not. Nerfing random weapons for balance to accomplish the same thing not only does not accomplish the balance you want but breaks the game in whole new ways to be piled upon the other broken inequalities/unbalance that already exists. Note: I have gone up against "Elite" imperfects. I do see some good game play (not elite but good team work, good aim etc)...but i have also seen terrible game play (running out into fields, not flanking, bunching up, soloing, not counter flanking etc) . I don;t know if they are relying so heavily on their SP and gear that they got lazy by letting the gear and SP carry them so they are good but are just being lazy or maybe they are not good and simply are elite because they have a gear/sp advantage. to be honest it would be nice to see imperfects come out and play with starter gear...the fact that i have never see them do that tells me that maybe they are not elite but simply relying on their gear/sp advantage to carry them.
You need risk and reward in an MMO skill trees do that perfectly. They just happen to ruin this too. I am sick of this fairness stuff. When did a game become a charity session? This game isn't meant to be fair but I want new player to be able to get where I am in SP on their own time. The only currency this game has is SP, you get the same amount every week and you save up. How is the new guy going to be able to compete? Global cap on SP is just dumb and having a cap is stupid! Let it become every WP=SP that way people start off as support players and earn their way to becoming a slayer. All that is required is different and unique ways to earn WP. Like doing your role.
As for this imperfect part of your post, when we see randoms we may sometimes use teamwork and smash them into oblivion but It gets boring doing the same thing over and over. Sometime we play around with dumb fits and try some thing new. If you think gear is what carries us you are delusional. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:26:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Icy Xenosmilus wrote:Hey guys, if you think CCP's done all right, ask yourself this: Why are there less than 5 k players on at any time? 10 k is adequate, and 20 k used to be the norm. What went wrong? They never published number of players online until now. Where are you getting this information? The login in screen bottom right. It's only been at 4,700 on prime time hours |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:37:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:I disagree. I think that there will be the opposite of a honeymoon period. People right now find some of these changes hard to stomach because they're so used to the old build. But once you play the new build enough you'll get adjusted and more comfortable with how things work. I think that some of the changes that people currently hate,we will eventually look back and say that it was for the best. Just give it some time, I'm already starting to warm up to it with a 'second impression'. That's is what, I can only call you fanboys, have been saying for a year. Let that sink in, where have them come from a year ago? They nerfed every single thing into oblivion and yet we should wait even longer? Sorry, you may have misunderstood me. I'm not saying you should wait for more changes. I'm saying that they changed so many things all at once that it'll take a bit for everyone to adjust to the new balance. Some nerfs went overboard, and hopefully they'll get tweaked. But on the whole I think they did a lot of things right that people will appreciate more as they play the next two weeks or so. The only things that were added beside new paint was 3 weapons and a new DS. They didn't add anything really, seems like they took away more things. It doesn't take two weeks to see where the same carebear game mechanics are leading |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:22:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:you had me going until you said that LAVs were perfect last build. You just invalidated everything else you said because if you think that, you really should actually go out and drive for a bit.
Vehicles aren't weightless cardboard that fly as soon as you hit a hill going 30. LAVs now are still far from perfect but at least i have some choices on how to map the dumb controls. LAVs dont flip every 20m either because of in flat land. The moment you said better you lost all creditabilty. Go play the game and come back when you wise up |
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