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hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:55:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote: If you think gear is what carries us you are delusional.
No it is not think. I know it is true.
I have seen the terrible game play. I have unloaded 2 clips into and dropped a grenade onto god -nova and the only thing that could ever have held him up would have been his SP/gear. I have seen imperfects run solo out into the open get hit by like 3 to 4 people then run back to cover.
Now it could be they were being lazy or having fun with their uber powers...but it was the gear and SP holding them up...not their FPS skills. |
Protoman Is God
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
158
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:02:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Mr Zitro wrote: If you think gear is what carries us you are delusional. No it is not think. I know it is true. I have seen the terrible game play. I have unloaded 2 clips into and dropped a grenade onto god -nova and the only thing that could ever have held him up would have been his SP/gear. I have seen imperfects run solo out into the open get hit by like 3 to 4 people then run back to cover. Now it could be they were being lazy or having fun with their uber powers...but it was the gear and SP holding them up...not their FPS skills.
Do you want me to come to your planet and take all your stuff away from you on the 14th? |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
580
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:05:00 -
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Icy Xenosmilus wrote:Hey guys, if you think CCP's done all right, ask yourself this: Why are there less than 5 k players on at any time? 10 k is adequate, and 20 k used to be the norm. What went wrong?
They never published number of players online until now. Where are you getting this information? |
Aquinarius Zoltanus
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:11:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:I disagree. I think that there will be the opposite of a honeymoon period. People right now find some of these changes hard to stomach because they're so used to the old build. But once you play the new build enough you'll get adjusted and more comfortable with how things work. I think that some of the changes that people currently hate,we will eventually look back and say that it was for the best. Just give it some time, I'm already starting to warm up to it with a 'second impression'. That's is what, I can only call you fanboys, have been saying for a year. Let that sink in, where have them come from a year ago? They nerfed every single thing into oblivion and yet we should wait even longer?
Sorry, you may have misunderstood me. I'm not saying you should wait for more changes. I'm saying that they changed so many things all at once that it'll take a bit for everyone to adjust to the new balance. Some nerfs went overboard, and hopefully they'll get tweaked. But on the whole I think they did a lot of things right that people will appreciate more as they play the next two weeks or so. |
Protoman Is God
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
161
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:15:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:I disagree. I think that there will be the opposite of a honeymoon period. People right now find some of these changes hard to stomach because they're so used to the old build. But once you play the new build enough you'll get adjusted and more comfortable with how things work. I think that some of the changes that people currently hate,we will eventually look back and say that it was for the best. Just give it some time, I'm already starting to warm up to it with a 'second impression'. That's is what, I can only call you fanboys, have been saying for a year. Let that sink in, where have them come from a year ago? They nerfed every single thing into oblivion and yet we should wait even longer? Sorry, you may have misunderstood me. I'm not saying you should wait for more changes. I'm saying that they changed so many things all at once that it'll take a bit for everyone to adjust to the new balance. Some nerfs went overboard, and hopefully they'll get tweaked. But on the whole I think they did a lot of things right that people will appreciate more as they play the next two weeks or so.
The only thing they did that was right was remove sharp shooter, and update the graphics. Other than that its trash. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
353
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:25:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:There was a honey moon period for Uprising?
Damn - must of missed that part... i know mine must of lasted all of a minute. dropped into a game call a PoS tank to test and it didn't take long to learn they broke the aiming mechanic. still went 15-0 but only because no one even tried to kill me and they tried so hard to hack a objective i had an eye on which netted me 10 of the 15 kills, no joke. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
552
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:26:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Icy Xenosmilus wrote:Hey guys, if you think CCP's done all right, ask yourself this: Why are there less than 5 k players on at any time? 10 k is adequate, and 20 k used to be the norm. What went wrong? They never published number of players online until now. Where are you getting this information? The login in screen bottom right. It's only been at 4,700 on prime time hours |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
30
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:26:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Nstomper wrote:Let me ask you doomsayers something if you were making a game and it had problems and people kept qqing raging ranting etc how would you handle the situation? I would start by listening to players especially the players who have been here the longest. Now I have a question for you, how many times can you make the same mistake?
I am not sure about listening to the oldest is a good idea. From my view CCP is already listening to all the EvE players (closed beta dust players) on how to attract FPS players to their game. EvE players have responded that they want dust to be more like EvE and use the same leveling systems and use the same nefing philosophy as used in EvE...and that was what CCP did.
I hate to break it to you but if people wanted to play EvE they would already be playing it now...not as if FPS players around the world have not heard of the game.
Cannibalizing their own EvE user base isn't all that bad of a way to go...isn't that what they do with every expansion of EvE? Still i think the numbers have spoken...there are not a enough people playing Dust. |
Frontline Medic
On-Sight-Response
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:34:00 -
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the injection control needs a big hotfix,its up to the dead to call for help now and most the time I cant rez when someone is calling for help. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
552
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:37:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:I disagree. I think that there will be the opposite of a honeymoon period. People right now find some of these changes hard to stomach because they're so used to the old build. But once you play the new build enough you'll get adjusted and more comfortable with how things work. I think that some of the changes that people currently hate,we will eventually look back and say that it was for the best. Just give it some time, I'm already starting to warm up to it with a 'second impression'. That's is what, I can only call you fanboys, have been saying for a year. Let that sink in, where have them come from a year ago? They nerfed every single thing into oblivion and yet we should wait even longer? Sorry, you may have misunderstood me. I'm not saying you should wait for more changes. I'm saying that they changed so many things all at once that it'll take a bit for everyone to adjust to the new balance. Some nerfs went overboard, and hopefully they'll get tweaked. But on the whole I think they did a lot of things right that people will appreciate more as they play the next two weeks or so. The only things that were added beside new paint was 3 weapons and a new DS. They didn't add anything really, seems like they took away more things. It doesn't take two weeks to see where the same carebear game mechanics are leading |
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Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
490
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:42:00 -
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you had me going until you said that LAVs were perfect last build. You just invalidated everything else you said because if you think that, you really should actually go out and drive for a bit.
Vehicles aren't weightless cardboard that fly as soon as you hit a hill going 30. LAVs now are still far from perfect but at least i have some choices on how to map the dumb controls. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
30
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:42:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:hooc order wrote:Mr Zitro wrote: If you think gear is what carries us you are delusional. No it is not think. I know it is true. I have seen the terrible game play. I have unloaded 2 clips into and dropped a grenade onto god -nova and the only thing that could ever have held him up would have been his SP/gear. I have seen imperfects run solo out into the open get hit by like 3 to 4 people then run back to cover. Now it could be they were being lazy or having fun with their uber powers...but it was the gear and SP holding them up...not their FPS skills. Do you want me to come to your planet and take all your stuff away from you on the 14th?
Hollow threat toward me who is probably quitting the whole game....scary.
Anyway you may be the honest sort. go play the game today in starter gear with no SP spent then screen shot your best game scores for us to see. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
556
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:22:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:you had me going until you said that LAVs were perfect last build. You just invalidated everything else you said because if you think that, you really should actually go out and drive for a bit.
Vehicles aren't weightless cardboard that fly as soon as you hit a hill going 30. LAVs now are still far from perfect but at least i have some choices on how to map the dumb controls. LAVs dont flip every 20m either because of in flat land. The moment you said better you lost all creditabilty. Go play the game and come back when you wise up |
Rugman91
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
164
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Posted - 2013.05.09 10:10:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Protoman Is God wrote:hooc order wrote:Mr Zitro wrote: If you think gear is what carries us you are delusional. No it is not think. I know it is true. I have seen the terrible game play. I have unloaded 2 clips into and dropped a grenade onto god -nova and the only thing that could ever have held him up would have been his SP/gear. I have seen imperfects run solo out into the open get hit by like 3 to 4 people then run back to cover. Now it could be they were being lazy or having fun with their uber powers...but it was the gear and SP holding them up...not their FPS skills. Do you want me to come to your planet and take all your stuff away from you on the 14th? Hollow threat toward me who is probably quitting the whole game....scary. Anyway you may be the honest sort. go play the game today in starter gear with no SP spent then screen shot your best game scores for us to see. Well hooc i've read this whole thread and while I disagree with much of what zitro says I also disagree with your options on the difference between new players and high sp players. No doubt there were a lot of mistakes make in this build but what i've taken away more than anything is that ccp is dedicated to this game and for that we'll be sticking around. Hope you do too hooc |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
77
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:12:00 -
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You know, guys, I don't know if it's just something with my memory but I'm pretty sure I saw a thread very similar to this. I mean let's think about for a moment, guys. Both of these threads are about a grown ass man having a hysterical tantrum, both of these threads have a guy addressing CCP like it was their dad while using a "metaphor" to make a point that the game sucks, and most importantly, boys and girls, both of these threads are full of CRAP! So you guys know very well that I've already put a statement out for a thread like this, so I'm just gonna throw it out here too for the folks who missed it yesterday.
Ric Barlom wrote: Allright, guys. Time for another reality check here. And let me start of by saying: JESUS CHRIST! I mean I've been reading some of the threads this guys starts, guys, and make no mistake about it: I'm praying this dude is in fact a woman, like the character he/she plays with. Not only do I hope the dude's a woman but I also pray the God that it's that time of the month, man, because if not he must be suffering from some of the most brutal hormonal imbalances known to man! Ever. Of all time! Now let me give you a couple of tips, man: Go eat some bacon and eggs, hit the gym ASAP, sleep more and stop playing this game! Right now! Maybe you'll get some testosterone running through your body.
And let me address the whole point of this thread as amusing as it is in it's ridiculousness, guys. "Welcome to the real world". Really? I mean last time I checked half of the people here who approve of this message don't even have a job! And I'm not talking about you guys being mercenaries, pencil necks! I'm talking about the real world where you guys are welcoming these self made guys at CCP who started this whole EVE thing from nothing. What have you done? I mean how can you welcome someone into the real world when you're not there yourself? Beats me! I'm flabbergasted here, guys! I mean please somebody help me out here!
Alright, guys, I've had my fun and now it's time to get serious: Get the **** out of this game! You remind me of my friends girlfriend who once once each month goes: "Oh this relationship will die, it's over, this is not working!" Only difference is that you guys do it every single day. Every. Single. Day. Then you guys come out here and go "I'm just trying to save this game". I've got news for you, you're making things worse! Stop it, guys. Stop it!
Ps. My friend's not together with the girl cause she whines about stuff one day each month. He's with her cause he's a patient nice guy
As a final note, and I'm no Nostradamus, but I'm pretty sure you guys are gonna throw out another one of these metaphors for the guys at CCP tomorrow, but I've got a better idea cause tomorrow is a Friday so go out, have a few beers and relax. Take it easy. |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
453
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:35:00 -
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All this hyperbole is funny. There are some small issues with this build, but in general it is quite good.
I still have no idea what anyone means by hit detection. I find it less forgiving than other games, and to me that is good. I hate games where players hit boxes extend outside their bodies, and I am glad DUST doesn't have that. As far as I am concerned though shots that hit, hit, and shots that just barely miss, miss.
When people complain about hit detection I wonder if its them thinking they must have hit, when they really didn't. Unless they are talking about the movement of the cursor, then I could understand. |
Al Lopestes
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:38:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Crash Monster wrote:It's no longer viable because you are no longer an uber powerful stomp machine? Changing anything = DESTROYED GAME
Not just Destroying a game. it also destroys anything in real world and internet |
Beld Errmon
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
610
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Posted - 2013.05.09 11:57:00 -
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hooc order wrote:
Note: I have gone up against "Elite" imperfects. I do see some good game play (not elite but good team work, good aim etc)...but i have also seen terrible game play (running out into fields, not flanking, bunching up, soloing, not counter flanking etc) . I don;t know if they are relying so heavily on their SP and gear that they got lazy by letting the gear and SP carry them so they are good but are just being lazy or maybe they are not good and simply are elite because they have a gear/sp advantage. to be honest it would be nice to see imperfects come out and play with starter gear...the fact that i have never see them do that tells me that maybe they are not elite but simply relying on their gear/sp advantage to carry them.
A critique on the imperfects from a scrub corp that's so desperate for players they recruit known corp thieves that are known to be absolute poison, amusing. |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
365
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Posted - 2013.05.09 12:06:00 -
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Chinduko wrote:Uprising has caused me despair for Dust. It's just not as enjoyable as before.
This. Bad atmosphere color scheme, bad draw distance on enemies, and the worst part unplayable mouse. |
BelleMorte MORTIMOR
Betaguards
2
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Posted - 2013.05.09 12:06:00 -
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really well i guess its because ima tanker i didnt even geta honeymoon :( pouts hey but they left us afking. although afking is for people who have hope that ccp may actually get there **** together tanking in this game for over a year gives me a better perspective. dont hold ur breath |
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BelleMorte MORTIMOR
Betaguards
2
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Posted - 2013.05.09 12:10:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:It's no longer viable because you are no longer an uber powerful stomp machine? the equipment does not make the devastation the imperfect makes the devastation. which is why we are on these forums trying to get the overpowered fixed all the time. i am a tanker i do not want tanks op that would make the game even more boring than it is now. GOOD VIDEO GAMES EQUALS BALANCE. shut you mouth if you dont understand what ur talking about. |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
152
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Posted - 2013.05.09 12:17:00 -
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HMG is like one giant BB gun, heck if they used the HMG as a melee weapon it'll cause more dmg than its bullets :P [lol]
not to mention the tiny invisible obstacles you get stuck on, i got stuck while walking up the stairs!! |
BelleMorte MORTIMOR
Betaguards
2
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Posted - 2013.05.09 12:17:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Let me ask you doomsayers something if you were making a game and it had problems and people kept qqing raging ranting etc how would you handle the situation?
CCP people complain about something. say it op up whatever the case. make a char max the sp into what is claimed to be wrong and only what is claimed to be wrong. run in said suit in pubs fora day add character to your groupie corp and challenge other corps to cb. ccp devs should have a caldari and gallente tanking character maxed they should join they're testing member to betamax record it challenge organized corps i promise you you will never be faced in that tank with a tank you will never keep it against skilled players even limiting av usage to only standard gear the result would be the same. the only way to effectively test an item is in and organized structured battle between corps. they neveer do this it wouldnt be that hard loads of the top proto corps would glady accept the challenge just to contribute to the improving of dust 514. |
ZiwZih
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
125
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Posted - 2013.05.09 12:23:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote:Chinduko wrote:Uprising has caused me despair for Dust. It's just not as enjoyable as before. This. Bad atmosphere color scheme, bad draw distance on enemies, and the worst part unplayable mouse.
Signed.
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BelleMorte MORTIMOR
Betaguards
2
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Posted - 2013.05.09 12:26:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:HMG is like one giant BB gun, heck if they used the HMG as a melee weapon it'll cause more dmg than its bullets :P [lol]
not to mention the tiny invisible obstacles you get stuck on, i got stuck while walking up the stairs!! lol i noticed that i scrubbed a adv heavy the other day witha dragon fly double smg flux suit lol seemed like he could turn to shoot me i was like side strafing ina circle around him ove a foot infront of his hmg the entire time emptying my clip into him sad ccp shot all u heavies up with ****** ur so slow now lolz dont feel bad i dropped 11 mill into vehicles = now i only has militia suits as vehicles are worthless across the board |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
226
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Posted - 2013.05.09 12:42:00 -
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These forums are not honeymoons, they-Śre domestic violence. |
Macheria Perforati
Defensores Doctrina
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:10:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:You need risk and reward in an MMO skill trees do that perfectly. They just happen to ruin this too. I am sick of this fairness stuff. When did a game become a charity session? This game isn't meant to be fair but I want new player to be able to get where I am in SP on their own time. The only currency this game has is SP, you get the same amount every week and you save up. How is the new guy going to be able to compete? Global cap on SP is just dumb and having a cap is stupid! Let it become every WP=SP that way people start off as support players and earn their way to becoming a slayer. All that is required is different and unique ways to earn WP. Like doing your role. ...
Issues with your argument:
1. Better players earn SP faster, propagating the issue of closed beta veterans basically curb-stomping everyone else. 2. In case you hadn't noticed, it takes a bare minimum of 1.8 million SP to even begin to fill a support role in Uprising, much less be any good at it (for the latter you would need at least ~10 million SP between suits, defense, equipment, and fittings - far more than one would need to be an effective "slayer," as you put it). Those aren't exactly "new player" SP counts. I'm not really sure what the hell the newbies are supposed to do to be relevant if they can't kill and can't support effectively. 3. Because the meta has shifted to shield "assault" (read: basic or Caldari logi suits) with ARs, it doesn't leave the logibros (not the ones that just stacked shields and play assault-style) with much to do other than drop the occasional nanohive or hope that their needle works (it usually doesn't) - certainly nothing that would warrant having three or four equipment slots. There's not much "support" to be had to begin with. |
Still blazn
BLaQ Heavy CORP
8
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:45:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Let me ask you doomsayers something if you were making a game and it had problems and people kept qqing raging ranting etc how would you handle the situation?
Well if i was running a business, any business owner knows the public is fickle and must be catered to if you want their hard earned money.. So what would i do? FIX THE PROBLEM WITH A QUICKNESSSSS....
When you come to a forum as a TRUE player.. its for a reason.. To get our game fixed..
The only ones here that are detracting from the conversation and turning these threads negative are whiney little nerds like YOU begging for attention..the trolls who have no new information to add .. No stats.. No info.. distortions and lies and ...Dont even use the weapon being discussed in most cases.. you dont see me over on the sniper thread talking about "its fine.. it needed a nerf" because I realize that for a game to be fun there must BE the threat of a sniper.. or A TANK.. or ANYTHING besides 20 midless apes running at me with AR's.. GET IT YET? MORON????
ITS YOU WHO ARE CAUSING US TO RAGE.. get it through your tiny pea brains.. |
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