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Koa Poluna
The Lionheart Coalition
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:47:00 -
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I just love the fact that in less than a week I went from running the sever with repper, injector, and nanohives, fast forward to NOW and my ONLY option is running a medium assault suit with ONE equipment slot making me choose between repper or injector. For f**ks sake I cant even use the gun I was using pre uprising.
For older players, this sucks but not a big deal as they already have the 8 million or whatever SP to get back in their suits.
For someone like me who has only been playing for a week, I have 800k SP, wtf am I supposed to do?
I don't like to be a whiner but this just seems assinine on CCPS part, and i hope they all get papercuts or something. |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:33:00 -
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I understand why they did not to a general refund on all AUR items. Closed Beta players had the opportunity to purchase a significant number of Militia BPOs at pre-Open Beta prices (30-50 AUR each). When the Open Beta hit these items went up significantly in price.
So if a forward thinking investment minded Merc bought say 100 Militia BPOs at say...30 AUR each...and then those items were raised in price to 4800 AUR once the Open Beta kicked in, then they would have stood to make a significant AUR profit if the items were all refunded at the new price. 3000 AUR turns into 480,000 AUR just because of a respec. That is a liittle out of control. So I think it is reasonable they shifted gears at the last minute...unfortunate for those who stood to profit but reasonable.
However, in the matter of the MAG dropsuits, these items were never inexpensive. I think the pre-Open Beta price was about half of what it is now. I doubt many people invested a lot of money into these. So they should have been refunded as any profit would have been limited to just a few thousand AUR. Then players could have decided if they wanted to repurchase them based on their choices for skill development under the reworked skill tree.
The other alternative is to make the suits non-skill based, similar to the 'Dragonfly' Type-1 Scout that comes in the original Merc Pack and just take away the bonuses they get now. This seems fairly reasonable and would probably provide more purchase incentive since it would give players the opportunity to have some fitting options without having to invest a significant amount of SP. I mean the suits are pretty limited in capability and are really only good for public matches and such anyway.
That being said, since a lot of folks probably already some skill point allocation, a decision that may have been influence by the possession of the suit itself, it is probably easier to just take them back and refund players. Then they can buy back what they want or need. If nothing is done, we will just have to wait until the secondary player market opens up, which is probably several months away. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Carbon 7
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:30:00 -
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well i got my petion reply back from ccp which i replied to and explained my situation much like everyone else who bought the raven for aurum did. my answer from them was prety much a " no goodbye" or words to that effect. i replyed and said i wasnt willing to accept that seeing as the product i payed for has changed and then they never replied again.. ticket still open.
i suspect i will recieve a " this matter is now closed, please leave feedback" or something like that within the next few days as this is the usual tactic i have recieved from ccp in the past regarding similar un-resolved petitions.
i play both games, plex my eve wallet regular and went to fanfest this year so they get alot of money put of me and comming back to dust for the release was meant to be the next big thing after fanfest but this has left a sour taste in my mouth.
i wonder if they will change their minds about oddesey on the last day at the last moment when they stated "if you can fly it now you can fly it after the ship re-skilling). |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:44:00 -
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Why ? ... because they haz our moneyz ! |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:36:00 -
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It seems to be mostly a matter of not distinguishing between people that paid for items and people that won them. To me anyway. The individual help ticket should've allowed them to verify specific cases (not being won at an event, etc.). They have chosen not to do this. |
B Team
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:58:00 -
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Unless CCP has braindead coders and accountants/lawyers who got their credentials from cereal boxes, all Auran transactions should have been logged and archived, because sooner or later they're going to get sued in a non-EULA friendly state.
And if that's the case, then it should be pretty damned trivial to refund the exact amount of auran spent by each player. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:46:00 -
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B Team wrote:Unless CCP has braindead coders and accountants/lawyers who got their credentials from cereal boxes, all Auran transactions should have been logged and archived, because sooner or later they're going to get sued in a non-EULA friendly state.
And if that's the case, then it should be pretty damned trivial to refund the exact amount of auran spent by each player.
I can't speak tot the difficulty, but since the event and merc pack were last year things I believe - there's a large chunk where it would be as easy as checking account creation time.
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Cybus Trama'dol
EYE Security Task Force and Resources Acquisition
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Posted - 2013.05.09 08:22:00 -
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I have logged a support ticket to request either a refund or to remove racial\sp requirements so we can use again and suggest you do the same. If enough people show their disappointment CCP have to act on it. |
p q
Zylak's Used Clones
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Posted - 2013.06.01 12:07:00 -
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I bought a digital product, a Raven dropsuit blueprint. I can no longer use that product, and other changes make it so that I will never use that product. This transformation of the product I purchased is legal, I think... but it's not good business. Please, keep our purchase of in-game cash (AUR), but allow us to exchange these products we would be fools to train in. CCP, please do something even though you are (likely) not legally required to do so. A good lawyer and a class action lawsuit would settle out of court quickly, but we love this game! We're not even asking for a refund, the cash is yours, just allow players to exchange these altered digital products for something they might use. Do something other than alienate those who have and will continue to be paying customers if they remain happy customers... |
Rynx Sinfar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.01 12:10:00 -
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my understanding is people who went through support were able to get refunds |
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Mat Auty
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.06.01 12:16:00 -
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I brought all of them also and have spent a lot on Aurum on this game and found this a little unfair
It was also made worse by the fact they refused to refund just these suits
But then again i doubt they will change them now as they would rather you spend another $100 to get the elite merc pack and get exactly the same suits just rehashed as 'Dren'
Paying twice for the same item isnt on |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.01 12:20:00 -
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i had the aurum refunded for the raven suit i bought.
just put a help ticket in under reimburement asking for them to remove the items and refund the AUR as when you bought the item it required no skill to use whereas now you have no intention of skilling into those races and the suits are worthless to you. i got mine within a few hours |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.01 12:30:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:i had the aurum refunded for the raven suit i bought.
just put a help ticket in under reimburement asking for them to remove the items and refund the AUR as when you bought the item it required no skill to use whereas now you have no intention of skilling into those races and the suits are worthless to you. i got mine within a few hours
i tried this and they said no.. will try it again |
TuFar Gon
0uter.Heaven
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.01 12:45:00 -
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There should be an option of reimbursement or trade in for these bpo suits as lots of vets/elites simply just dont use them ( dont need them ). Maybe when the market opens ( in a year, lol ) we'll be able to trade in and recieve AUR value to use on items of importance,, dmg mods,,shld ext,,etc. I highly doubt CCP will " recycle " AUR, but hoping wont hurt ( lol ) nor will adding a comment in this thread " in hopes" that MAYBE it'll catch CCP'S attention to atleast brainstorm ideas into the matter.....BTW,,,,,,,I am a awesome guy,,,,,,that is all ( I hear boooooo's n backround,lol. ) |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.08 17:19:00 -
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they reimbursed my aur and removed the raven bpo
if you bought one of the market for aur then just petition it for a refund. job done |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 17:27:00 -
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KatanaPT wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Raven is a assault suit so yeah. It was never militia you know it's a type 1. I don't recall having to go L5 in assault suits to use it in the previous build. That's weird. I wasn't ever L5 in scout or logi either, but I remember being able to use them. Is my memory failing me? The Raven is now lvl5 caldari medium frame and lvl1 caldari assault, which in fact is prototype basic skillage
Exactly! and the point is that they get the high-teir suit bonuses and so are much more valuable as BPOs than a standard lower skill requirement suit BPO would be.
CCP actually tossed us a valuable gift. These MAG tribute suits are some of the only upper-tier BPOs in the game. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.09 02:23:00 -
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I'm assuming you get the proto bonuses for these suits too, so it ultimately gives people with cal assault V or min logi V a BPO suit to grind in with bonuses. so it is 'slightly' better than the Dren or whatever. |
Eisen Sonnet
S.e.V.e.N.
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:14:00 -
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These BPO's could have been handled better with the transition in to Uprising. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:17:00 -
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Base Frame lvl 3 and Whatever suit lvl 1. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:41:00 -
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CCP Marketing - Hey people really like the Tribute suits. Why don't we make them worthless and reintroduce what they currently are as the 'Dren' suits for $100! |
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