But why would you aim for the sponge doing no damage?

You know what be nice to help us fill our "niche" would be a suppression bonus since that is what everyone thinks heavies are meant for. We have to kill or we get no SP/ISK, also to be able to suppress the enemy we have to be able to shoot farther than 15m.

You know what be nice to help us fill our "niche" would be a suppression bonus since that is what everyone thinks heavies are meant for. We have to kill or we get no SP/ISK, also to be able to suppress the enemy we have to be able to shoot farther than 15m.

They're now what they're meant to be, moving damage sponges. Don't expect to be killing everyone at CQC now. Your role is to survive and take hits while the assaults do the killing. When the assaults die you stand there and don't let them take the objective/position.

A class that has the highest HP cannot have the highest DPS. People learned to counter you and they still have this in mind, you're a primary target. Make them do so and don't expose yourself. Your teammates do the flanking job. Always run with a squad, remember people will target you first so take cover. If the squad dies you're the only hope. Let them get very close to you and either kill them all or scare them away. But always hold the position.

The HMG nerf will force people towards this role. It's interesting how CCP is developing the meta game. I like the direction of balance they're aiming. Proto suits have to get close now and run towards cover in fear, no longer in their safe zone provided by sharpshooter.

You know what be nice to help us fill our "niche" would be a suppression bonus since that is what everyone thinks heavies are meant for. We have to kill or we get no SP/ISK, also to be able to suppress the enemy we have to be able to shoot farther than 15m.

They're now what they're meant to be, moving damage sponges. Don't expect to be killing everyone at CQC now. Your role is to survive and take hits while the assaults do the killing. When the assaults die you stand there and don't let them take the objective/position.

A class that has the highest HP cannot have the highest DPS. People learned to counter you and they still have this in mind, you're a primary target. Make them do so and don't expose yourself. Your teammates do the flanking job. Always run with a squad, remember people will target you first so take cover. If the squad dies you're the only hope. Let them get very close to you and either kill them all or scare them away. But always hold the position.

The HMG nerf will force people towards this role. It's interesting how CCP is developing the meta game. I like the direction of balance they're aiming. Proto suits have to get close now and run towards cover in fear, no longer in their safe zone provided by sharpshooter.

You wish you could shoot 15 meters. I was pimp slappin proto heavies all day in a light militia dropsuit

The heavy always had a niche. heavies were literally an exemplar of the phrase "who dares, wins"

The only people who were successful and brutally efficient were the ones who realized that heavy suits were a great way to get killed. a lot. then they applied a "Don't care about KDR and ISK efficiency" mindset, gloriously and spectacularly maimed the crap out of people because they weren't afraid to lose an expensive fit.

You killed the protofit fatty AV? If he's one of the good ones you will be bombarded again in fifteen seconds, and he will keep coming from every angle until he KILLS YOU and your stupid marauder.

HMG heavies were door-kicking shock troops who would charge madly into a crowd and kill their first two men and die gloriously while their assault buddies ran in behind to clean up the bad guys now in disarray because they were all focusing fire on the big, metal, walking distraction.

Now I see an HMG heavy? I just leave him alone. he can't threaten me, can't keep up with me, and he certainly ain't gonna kill me. I'm here to kill enemies, not pick on Lenny from Of Mice and Men.

You can kite heavies now!

But why would you aim for the sponge doing no damage?

The only thing heavys need is a slight buff to range, or to tighten up bullet spread at range. as it is right now anyone can stand still out side the 15 meter max range and just take their time taking down a heavy.

I don't need to be a God on the battlefield as a heavy no fun there either but as it is now HMG users will have to try and sneak up a reds to try and get in range.

Played as my adv heavy.

Solo attack on enemey CRU.

Spam flux grenades

Start firing before i turn the corner

6 dead

just lost shields

continued to camp for 4 more kills before blueberry hacked it

Heavies are big slow and put a lot of bullets down range. They come into thier own with all the armour tanking (much more noticable dmg against armour) tracking and range are thier achillies.
Just with adv mods you have a LOT of hp and very respectable dmg in your killing area. They are still to be feared in urban areas

Oh you CAMPED......lol!!

HMG is garbage.

Ha not even close mate you obvious arent using yours right then.

All the heavys I know changed their playstyle got used to new rules and are right back to kicking ass I still fear hmgs more so now because it takes me longer to drop a heavy

They're now what they're meant to be, moving damage sponges. Don't expect to be killing everyone at CQC now. Your role is to survive and take hits while the assaults do the killing. When the assaults die you stand there and don't let them take the objective/position.

A class that has the highest HP cannot have the highest DPS. People learned to counter you and they still have this in mind, you're a primary target. Make them do so and don't expose yourself. Your teammates do the flanking job. Always run with a squad, remember people will target you first so take cover. If the squad dies you're the only hope. Let them get very close to you and either kill them all or scare them away. But always hold the position.

The HMG nerf will force people towards this role. It's interesting how CCP is developing the meta game. I like the direction of balance they're aiming. Proto suits have to get close now and run towards cover in fear, no longer in their safe zone provided by sharpshooter.

slight my ass. The HMG is pointless if it cannot hit something across a street effectively.

rule of thumb: if the weapon's optimal is shorter than an HAV then odds are it's broken or it's a shotgun.

I drive railgun HAV........so by your logic anything except for snipers are broken? come on people! your smarter than this!!!

Your expectations are too high.

They're now what they're meant to be, moving damage sponges. Don't expect to be killing everyone at CQC now. Your role is to survive and take hits while the assaults do the killing. When the assaults die you stand there and don't let them take the objective/position.

A class that has the highest HP cannot have the highest DPS. People learned to counter you and they still have this in mind, you're a primary target. Make them do so and don't expose yourself. Your teammates do the flanking job. Always run with a squad, remember people will target you first so take cover. If the squad dies you're the only hope. Let them get very close to you and either kill them all or scare them away. But always hold the position.

The HMG nerf will force people towards this role. It's interesting how CCP is developing the meta game. I like the direction of balance they're aiming. Proto suits have to get close now and run towards cover in fear, no longer in their safe zone provided by sharpshooter.

tried HMG militia and it is fine imho. I can still mow down anything up close in under a second. all others are doing less damage too which means I survive longer. they all have less range which means that I can cross the street without getting shot down in 1s by some AR dude with 3 damage mods on the other side of the map.

overall it is a buff imho.

OK, Heavies are fine to the average VET
I have not had too much additional troubles pwn'in faces as before uprising.
EXCEPT the stupid slow turning speed. Now when scouts get in my face I **** my pants as I try to keep up with them (maxed sensitivty). This was originally boner city as ne one within 10meters would die in less then 2 seconds.
Heavies can no longer show off their dancing skills with strafing, BOOO!
Aside from that, heavies are still quite formidable. Ya we got a nerf but so did everything else practically.

I will say that forges guns are coming out more often than they used to.
75% of the time I would rock HMG and melt faces, now role has almost switched with the forge gun.
HMG can still poop in peoples mouths (within its new range) you just need to be more accurate.
See what happens when you hit someone on the dot of your reticle with a Burst machine gun (I was getting 1 shot burst last night, on ADV suits!). HMG can no longer be utilized as spray and pray, the DMG just isn't there.

NOW for newberts starting out in the game, they will ultimately get pwnd. Its almost not worth speccing heavy unless you have good amount of SP already. (~6mil sp). As a 1012eHP PROTObear, I am already having some trouble keeping up with top end assualt/logi players in advanced suits. There is no incentive for newbies to play heavy currently, without a CCP hotfix that will never come, the heavy population will plummet.

This game is a hard game to commit to with all its current trouble and bugs, but ultimately needs a bigger player base so that CCP wont be so desperate to empty our wallets and might be able to budget a bigger/better team for development.
NOOBS are super frustrating, but are necessary for our beloved game to thrive.

Nonetheless we are ultimately gambling that this game with be amazing 6months-1yr down the road.
So really, ENOUGH QQ MORE PEW PEW.
If you can no longer stand this game after a couple weeks into this Uprising build then find another game, the constant bitching and whining does not make our game better.

SIDENOTE: Ever since Uprising came out, my PS3 no longer suffer constant hard freezes (w/ PS3s IP set in DMZ in router).
I used to freezing everything ******* game and hadn't hit cap in the past two weeks. Lots of homos like me have this trouble stil, try this DMZ option if you have done the PS3's restore database and file system, unistall/restal dust clientl, game data deletion.....etc.

They're now what they're meant to be, moving damage sponges. Don't expect to be killing everyone at CQC now. Your role is to survive and take hits while the assaults do the killing. When the assaults die you stand there and don't let them take the objective/position.

A class that has the highest HP cannot have the highest DPS. People learned to counter you and they still have this in mind, you're a primary target. Make them do so and don't expose yourself. Your teammates do the flanking job. Always run with a squad, remember people will target you first so take cover. If the squad dies you're the only hope. Let them get very close to you and either kill them all or scare them away. But always hold the position.

The HMG nerf will force people towards this role. It's interesting how CCP is developing the meta game. I like the direction of balance they're aiming. Proto suits have to get close now and run towards cover in fear, no longer in their safe zone provided by sharpshooter.

This. First game I played in squad with the Dead Sixers our Heavies went 17/4 and 30/6. Now how can you tell me that the Heavy is underpowered after that.

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Trouble is, why wouldn't people use a logi/assault combo instead of logi/heavy? Or, at the very least, why wouldn't you use assault rifles instead of HMG's? The only benefit you have is less frequent (but much longer) reloads.