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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:45:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cat Merc wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:i think at this point people are just jumping on the bandwagon, for example Heavys make great defenders and i saw a rather noval speed modded heavy that trashed the other team was funny as hell.
however i do agree the radio slience and just dropping these changes on us was a poor move. but i think CCP dust is very quickly learning the lessons of CCP EvE and would not be supprsied if their were a few phone calls with heads on what the hell happend.
over all though i like the update, doing very well at the moment They're pissed off that their class changed role from defender/attacker to just defender. I don't see the problem, I expect things to change heavily over the years. A class that does one thing today might do a complete 180 tomorrow. The only two problems I have with the suits are: 1. Logis are too good at doing the assault job 2. The difference between basic and assault suits are some passives, nothing else, at all. The issue is that Logi suits can only be good at their job by having a lot of fitting and slots, but then they become good at everything. It's easier to balance in EVE because the RR modules take up the High slots you would have for weapons, and they don't have bonuses for weapons either. Not really sure how you'd balance that here. Nothing wrong with the logis having slots....but there is no need for logis to have a lot of low power slots to do their job. All they need are multiple equipment slots. Not a big deal though but having 5 high and 4 low is not necessary for a logi to do their job. Again...it isn't a big deal to me. They should've kept logis fatter than assault suits. The only issue is ensuring that the Logi player can keep up with the players he's supporting.
By giving them 4 low power slots?? The only thing that they fit in there are armor plates...which will slow them down. Sure, they can equip kinetic catalyzers but do they need 4 low power slots to do that?
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ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:48:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:So first off i am really enjoying the new build.
The graphics are great
hit detection feels better
i can set my sensitive to what feels comfortable
And unlike most i actually like the increase in how many skills it takes to get items and heres why.
Not everyone can run amazing Proto pub stomp fest gear anymore.
You have to specialize more people can no longer be a good assault a good Scout and a good tanker (For example)
You can't be good with all weapons at the same time
It takes time to get what you want instead of having everything that you want and getting bored. Now it takes time to get the good gear.
Unfortunately like everything it has downsides which i hope will be removed when we get the new Sp system.
Mostly the downsides hurt the new players which could be fixed by More tutorials make the game easy to understand
More Starting Skill points.
Honestly the new build is great imo It gets a solid 8.5/10 from me. Just buff the heavies they already werent that great then you nerfed them? Doesnt make sense
Oh and another thing. It wouldnt be a big deal if players werent so hungry for Proto Suits.
To bring up a quote i hear earlier, "You could give people the world and they would be mad cause they didnt get the moon"
I think your missing something lolololololol
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Chips LeStar
GPlus Fighters
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:55:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:i think at this point people are just jumping on the bandwagon, for example Heavys make great defenders and i saw a rather noval speed modded heavy that trashed the other team was funny as hell.
however i do agree the radio slience and just dropping these changes on us was a poor move. but i think CCP dust is very quickly learning the lessons of CCP EvE and would not be supprsied if their were a few phone calls with heads on what the hell happend.
over all though i like the update, doing very well at the moment This^ I wanted to make my own thread around this point but couldn't bring the proper words together.
They definitely dropped the ball with not telling us much via the previous start-up menu or through some social network advertising (especially Google Plus, please). Heck, I didn't even know there was a MASSIVE update until last night, when I flicked on the PS3, loaded up Dust, and was prompted with one PSN update, and an in-game update. The changes seemed phenomenal but an awful lot to take in. It Really hit me when I realized I had to RE-do ALL of my skill/purchases I had done over the months, since January when I started. I caught on that the Skill Tree fix was around, but didn't know it Wasn't implemented until now. So as everyone has mentioned, they're learning from mistakes of games' past, and hopefully we see changes over the next week or so.
This game is amazing, honestly. I play this often since selling CoD (which I'll get back due to popularity...peer pressure...), and a great alternative to Battlefield if you lack the funds for it. I await future improvements to this game now that I'm just about through with the re-learning curve :P |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1405
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:58:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote: By giving them 4 low power slots?? The only thing that they fit in there are armor plates...which will slow them down. Sure, they can equip kinetic catalyzers but do they need 4 low power slots to do that?
I'm talking about the suit's base speed. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2758
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:59:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:The issue is that Logi suits can only be good at their job by having a lot of fitting and slots, but then they become good at everything. It's easier to balance in EVE because the RR modules take up the High slots you would have for weapons, and they don't have bonuses for weapons either. Not really sure how you'd balance that here. Reading this just gave me an idea. Not sure how good an idea it is though...
-Drop basic Logis down to 1 Equipment slot, and Advanced/Proto get 2. -Give Logi suits 2 Sidearm Weapon slots instead of the single Light Weapon slot. Amarr can still have Light/Sidearm -Repair Tool now fills a Sidearm Weapon slot. -Injector now fills a Sidearm Weapon slot.
Good? Bad? Problems? |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1407
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Posted - 2013.05.08 00:24:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:The issue is that Logi suits can only be good at their job by having a lot of fitting and slots, but then they become good at everything. It's easier to balance in EVE because the RR modules take up the High slots you would have for weapons, and they don't have bonuses for weapons either. Not really sure how you'd balance that here. Reading this just gave me an idea. Not sure how good an idea it is though... -Drop basic Logis down to 1 Equipment slot, and Advanced/Proto get 2. -Give Logi suits 2 Sidearm Weapon slots instead of the single Light Weapon slot. Amarr can still have Light/Sidearm -Repair Tool now fills a Sidearm Weapon slot. -Injector now fills a Sidearm Weapon slot. Good? Bad? Problems? I think that's a bit more radical a change than is actually needed. Reducing them back to a single Sidearm slot would solve most of the issues around Logi being able to act as super-Assaults. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
17
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Posted - 2013.05.08 00:40:00 -
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Adapt or Die |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1409
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Posted - 2013.05.08 00:43:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:Adapt or Die Wait, how does that apply in this thread? |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1409
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Posted - 2013.05.08 01:04:00 -
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Wow, this keeps dropping off the front page fast as hell. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
345
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Posted - 2013.05.08 09:54:00 -
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All in all we know theres some problems and over nerfed things but it's still better than chromosome in my opinion |
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
934
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:06:00 -
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Good to see the thread is still alive when I wake up in the morning. |
grreen mctree
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:36:00 -
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lol good? The previous build sucked donkey ball's yet it was better than this. Game is dead. The majority of players have judged this game to be a pile of ****, just take a look at how many people are playing.
Dust is a half assed battlefield knock off with with added skill point sinks.
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Gaucho Prime
Fast Food To Go
0
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:19:00 -
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I'm not sure why people are so upset with the game. Uprising looks great. I love playing each night. Yeah, there are a few bugs, but you can't take away the detail and gameplay. The bugs will eventually get taken care of. Hell, we're only a few days into Uprising. I guess we will always have complainers.
And the new skill progression setup gives everyone new goals to shoot for. I hate players that have this belief of entitlement.
See you all on the battlefield. |
ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:21:00 -
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ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:
I think your missing something lolololololol
another regnum? my goodness how many have we got now? |
K-wall
WarRavens Orion Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:35:00 -
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New build is awesome. Cant wait for the 14th gonna be epic. |
SickJ
French unchained corporation Squale Operation Empire
59
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:09:00 -
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Bigger squads = good. Knowing how close the nearest medic is = good. New LAV physics = good.
Hate the new ironsights though. |
Gods Architect
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
28
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:12:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:lol at poor attempt to rescue the game...
"let's ignore all the downfalls and look at all these positive sides!
the game is... actually good!" If it's not good than why are you still here? I'm still trying figure out why I'm still here |
Dudley Do-Right
Fast Food To Go
0
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Posted - 2013.05.10 13:46:00 -
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Gaucho Prime wrote:I'm not sure why people are so upset with the game. Uprising looks great. I love playing each night. Yeah, there are a few bugs, but you can't take away the detail and gameplay. The bugs will eventually get taken care of. Hell, we're only a few days into Uprising. I guess we will always have complainers.
And the new skill progression setup gives everyone new goals to shoot for. I hate players that have this belief of entitlement.
See you all on the battlefield.
I need to kick this guy out of my Corp, he is to optimistic to be a great warrior. |
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