Release is always a stressed out time at office.
They have to monitor our complaints, watch for game killing bugs, and hope it just plain works in the first place.
It also means a whole cycle of development over, and they get a little rest before starting a new cycle (next expansion).

Less than few seconds to get to the next page.
I'm a sad kitten.
I will try to bump this over and over until it catches on.
I will not let this thread die just yet, I feel like I owe it to CCP to have a bit of good feedback in the sea of bad feedback I gave them.

i think at this point people are just jumping on the bandwagon, for example Heavys make great defenders and i saw a rather noval speed modded heavy that trashed the other team was funny as hell.

however i do agree the radio slience and just dropping these changes on us was a poor move. but i think CCP dust is very quickly learning the lessons of CCP EvE and would not be supprsied if their were a few phone calls with heads on what the hell happend.

over all though i like the update, doing very well at the moment

i think at this point people are just jumping on the bandwagon, for example Heavys make great defenders and i saw a rather noval speed modded heavy that trashed the other team was funny as hell.

however i do agree the radio slience and just dropping these changes on us was a poor move. but i think CCP dust is very quickly learning the lessons of CCP EvE and would not be supprsied if their were a few phone calls with heads on what the hell happend.

over all though i like the update, doing very well at the moment

They're pissed off that their class changed role from defender/attacker to just defender.
I don't see the problem, I expect things to change heavily over the years.
A class that does one thing today might do a complete 180 tomorrow.

The only two problems I have with the suits are:
1. Logis are too good at doing the assault job
2. The difference between basic and assault suits are some passives, nothing else, at all.

The issue is that Logi suits can only be good at their job by having a lot of fitting and slots, but then they become good at everything. It's easier to balance in EVE because the RR modules take up the High slots you would have for weapons, and they don't have bonuses for weapons either. Not really sure how you'd balance that here.

Take away light weapon slot, introduce new slot, tackle slot.
Contains webs, energy drains, etc'.
Can be fit in heavy and light weapon slots, but not in secondary slots.
So in size it goes:
Heavy>Light>Tackle>Sidearm

Put the tackle slot on the logi instead of the light weapon, give it a sidearm, done.

I'm on board with the OP. Overall there are a lot of great improvements. Definitely some sloppy updates (aiming, input lag, object rendering choppiness, implementation mistakes, etc.), and choosing to split the update between 5/6 and 5/14 is a horrible decision. The good-idea fairy strikes again!

On a side note. I'm no expert with Heavies and HMGs, but I do find it funny that the very same people crying about the nerf to their play style are running around the forums saying "Nerf all the things, except my preferred play style." It's natural for players to want their chosen fit to be all-powerful, but dang! Heavies have perfected the attitude!

I just thought of something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G36

One of the variants of this weapon is the G36C

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Jordanian_Special_Forces_with_the_G36C.jpg

Introduce compact-carbine weapons that can fit into a sidearm slot, and operate like up-scaled SMGs. You'll notice from the FanFest CCP Presents! presentation that a "Magsec SMG" is already planned as a Caldari weapon, and if you take this idea further - into the realm of modular weapons - and allow the current SMGs to be upgraded to fill this type of role, you don't even have to make a new asset.

Logi suits get a workable weapon with low fitting requirements, and are better fit into their intended role.

Cool idea but i believe that we should get Carbines, a light weapon meant for high fire rate lets say 900 with Not great but not bad damage and Close- Medium range but high recoil after shooting 30 bullets

Smells too much like a glorified AR.

Logi's should only engage enemies as a last resort.
They're not frontline fighters, they are the ones supporting the frontline fighters, they have too much gear to carry around a big boom stick.

Nah it will have a lot of recoil sense of the high Fire rate

Yeah, the idea is that it would have less damage and range. It would be useful, but you wouldn't want to go one on one with an AR with one. Also, the PG and CPU saved would be a boon for a Logi player, but it would still use more PG and CPU than a standard SMG on account of the mods, and thus would take up too much PG and CPU to realistically allow an Assault player to, say, carry both a Laser Rifle and a Carbine.

The issue is that Logi suits can only be good at their job by having a lot of fitting and slots, but then they become good at everything. It's easier to balance in EVE because the RR modules take up the High slots you would have for weapons, and they don't have bonuses for weapons either. Not really sure how you'd balance that here.

I forgot to mention that as well.......You're going to see more proto suits in pubs because everything is cheaper and we all just got a **** load of ISK.

Nothing wrong with the logis having slots....but there is no need for logis to have a lot of low power slots to do their job. All they need are multiple equipment slots. Not a big deal though but having 5 high and 4 low is not necessary for a logi to do their job. Again...it isn't a big deal to me.

They should've kept logis fatter than assault suits.