I think they are trying to encourage use of the active scanner. Seems like a really crappy form of encouragement though.

The patch notes specifically mention reduced scan range. I'm not sure why you are surprised.

This is to make the EW role viable. Seems like it will be.

at that rate they might as well just remove for everyone but scouts and scouts that's just maybe should have it. come on 2m what the hell is going to get that close, its basically made that area useless.and why do logis have 5m when they had the same range of assaults.. I think CCP just said this needs to be removed and randomly threw numbers out. guess this is even more range not to play a scout or even assault with the reduced equipment slots.thanks CCP for nerfing just about everything and things you can't find to nerf you make them cost more a ton more.

I wonder if they forgot a zero, but to make the same typo on every dropsuit seems unlikely. We'll know for sure in 9 hours.

Yah the equipment slot thing is going to absolutely destroy scouts as a viable role. Right now I am a fully dedicated scout (proto) with my main character (Ignoble Son) and I will not be respecing into scout this build. I could see getting rid of one of the three equipment scouts are currently able to use, but limiting them to only one, and the unbelievable hard nerf to SR, as well as, a reduction in the number of high/low mod slots from six to five, and an even further nerf to base total HP, scout is looking pretty ridiculous this build. As a scout I will have to carry a scanner? And because I have to carry a scanner I can no longer carry ammo and a way to heal myself while I am off on my own SCOUTING! Ridiculous!

[edit>>> not to mention the overall CPU nerf that is coming, when scouts were already CPU starved?

I will test scout out with my alt just so I can complain about it on the forums.

start using your eyes on the field rather than on the mini map

you know.. I don't even care now. it just going to be a CoD copy now and that's where I leave and pick up my CoD and never come back.

you know.. I don't even care now. it just going to be a CoD copy now and that's where I leave and pick up my CoD and never come back.

come back please

you know.. I don't even care now. it just going to be a CoD copy now and that's where I leave and pick up my CoD and never come back.

Give me your stuff ? Thanks good bye

I'm okay with this. Maybe we should put it to a vote?

The patch notes specifically mention reduced scan range. I'm not sure why you are surprised.

This is to make the EW role viable. Seems like it will be.

start using your eyes on the field rather than on the mini map

You will still be able to 'light up' targets if they're visible. Scan radius simply notifies you of people that you walk by who are not doing anything. Actions which cause their profile to spike will probably still be detected on the minimap, not to mention that CRUs and all installations (I think) have their scanners fixed so they detect enemies too, plus the fact that CCP probably wants to encourage the usage of both handheld active scanners and they now fixed vehicle scanners (which have ranges around 50-100m and precisions down to 45dB) would probably mean that this decrease to scan radius is a good thing.

Good. The current scan radius feels too much like wall-hacking to me anyways. Use your eyes and your wits. Or an active scanner.

and another reason to make a dropship a flying scanner? im already thinking of ways to add this to an Assault DS

One part sad to see kit go, but on a side, agree. Kinda felt like wall hacking. So being a stealthy roll will be viable again. Plus being able to sneak close range. Having a head set listening to footsteps is viable.

good now instead of sucking on the tit of game mechanics to locate reds, you actually have to SEE THEM for you to actually SEE THEM

Good. The current scan radius feels too much like wall-hacking to me anyways. Use your eyes and your wits. Or an active scanner.

lol, you are forgetting that in propper games (WCG capable, like CS) theres no ability to display enemies on minimap. Thank CCP for atleast giving you 2/5m display range (even as base), instead of just removing it.
This looks like proper implimentation of signature radius/scan range. Also, you are forgetting that SR is not only based on range, but on Signature Radius, which is quite big on shield-tanked dropsuits.
So this change is more: buff of snipers, buff of EW, buff of Armor. Thanks CCP, realy nice move.
P.S.: Seeing people on minimap that 30m away from me (my optimal +/-) is ridiculous.
P.S.2: People that played EVE are familiar with Signature mechanics and its vital characteristic in EVE, so get used :)

wait, what? this is in way a buff to snipers, pointing at something and having it show up has nothing to do with signature radius. you sir do not know what you are talking about.

Without knowing the game mechanics for the scanner it's kinda hard to tell what effect this will have. Maybe that's the 360-¦ range and there's a hidden multiplier for, say, ~90-¦ in the direction you're facing? Or not, who knows... My experience is that the chromosome scanner wouldn't pick up people behind me unless they got *really* close, and that was with maxed skills.

Can't help but wonder what good the low sig of a scout will do if everyone is undetectable so lets hope that won't be the case :P.

what ladwar is talking about is that sig radius does not effect whether someone will show up when you point in their direction or not, that is a range thing only. From the mouth of a dev.

Lol, so you are pointing your shotgun at guy that 250m away, and it shows his name? Are you seriously thinking it will work that way in Uprising?
What purpose of signature radius in your opinion than?
What disadvantages of using a shield rather than armor?
What advantages using scout suit but extra movement speed?
Do you think that CCP, that already implemented such mechanics in other game, wont do it in this game, when all attributes and stuff already in it?

The proto scan equipment has a scan precision of 15... No suit can avoid detection now...

good now instead of sucking on the tit of game mechanics to locate reds, you actually have to SEE THEM for you to actually SEE THEM

I guess Tacnet (shared radars) and the active scanner will still make things light up. Scanning is supposed to be good for WP. If it's unlimited charges, some guy can just sit on a roof somewhere and spam it for WP? It'll keep the red dots lit up anyway.

From dust_market_items.csv:

A-45 Quantum Active Scanner (meta 5)
Scan Duration: 2.0s
Target Visibility Duration: 16.0s
Scan Precision: 36 dB
Scan Angle: 60.0 degrees
Scan Distance: 100 meters

CreoDron Active Scanner (meta 7)
Scan Duration: 2.0s
Target Visibility Duration: 5.0s
Scan Precision: 28 dB
Scan Angle: 60.0 degrees
Scan Distance: 100 meters

CreoDron Flux Active Scanner (meta 8)
Scan Duration: 1.0s
Target Visibility Duration: 8.0s
Scan Precision: 28 dB
Scan Angle: 90.0 degrees
Scan Distance: 200 meters

CreoDron Proximity Active Scanner (meta 8)
Scan Duration: 4.0s
Target Visibility Duration: 5.0s
Scan Precision: 28 dB
Scan Angle: 45.0 degrees
Scan Distance: 65.0 meters

Duvolle Focused Active Scanner (meta 9)
Scan Duration: 5.0s
Target Visibility Duration: 5.0s
Scan Precision: 15 dB
Scan Angle: 60.0 degrees
Scan Distance: 100 meters

Duvolle Quantum Active Scanner (meta 8)
Scan Duration: 2.0s
Target Visibility Duration: 25.0s
Scan Precision: 28 dB
Scan Angle: 60.0 degrees
Scan Distance: 100 meters

For anyone with logistics experience, tending to your field mates is a full-time job. Routine 360* sweeps requires half your time will be spent on scanning duty (1s/90*scan, lasts 8s) to catch anyone w/ signature exceeding 28dB at up to 200m. This forces two different logistics paths: EW and RRR. Also note that the best scanner has a 15dB scan precision (blips all scouts with less than +67%) has a 5s time-to-scan paired with a 60* FOV and 5s target visibility duration...better scan behind you fairly frequently.

With one equipment slot, is it realistic for a behind-enemy-lines scout to favor the scanner over the cloaking module?

you got the cooldowns? that's the only thing missing.

the passive skill will net you 10%...

Those columns were blank, sry. AKA, no cooldown for active scanners?

I think this is about the CQC gameplay aswell.
People wern't able to do stealth CQC. Now it might be possible.

Llan Heindell.