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Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.06 01:24:00 -
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What is the deal with the abslutely atrocious scan radius for all the uprising suits? Scouts have five meters scan radius? Assaults have two? If I went gk. scout (which I'm not, purely hipothetical) and took advantage of the 10% scan radius buff, that would put put me at 7.5 meters, scan radius. 7.5 meters? Down from the current 25 meters? What the hell? Let's say that the scan radius skill is still around (haven't looked yet) and the proto scan radius moduals still give a 45% increase to radius, that still only comes out to 13.59 meters. That's not even as much as an assault has as a base SR right now. So what the hell is with this massive nerf to SR? |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1378
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Posted - 2013.05.06 01:26:00 -
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I think they are trying to encourage use of the active scanner. Seems like a really crappy form of encouragement though. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
323
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Posted - 2013.05.06 01:27:00 -
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im hoping CCP forgot how to code excel the second time and all the numbers are wrong. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
323
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Posted - 2013.05.06 01:28:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:I think they are trying to encourage use of the active scanner. Seems like a really crappy form of encouragement though. most scouts have a base of 30 shields now so they barely have a base of a 100hp. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
364
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Posted - 2013.05.06 01:32:00 -
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The patch notes specifically mention reduced scan range. I'm not sure why you are surprised.
This is to make the EW role viable. Seems like it will be. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
323
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Posted - 2013.05.06 01:35:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:The patch notes specifically mention reduced scan range. I'm not sure why you are surprised.
This is to make the EW role viable. Seems like it will be. at that rate they might as well just remove for everyone but scouts and scouts that's just maybe should have it. come on 2m what the hell is going to get that close, its basically made that area useless.and why do logis have 5m when they had the same range of assaults.. I think CCP just said this needs to be removed and randomly threw numbers out. guess this is even more range not to play a scout or even assault with the reduced equipment slots. |
Llan Heindell
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
45
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Posted - 2013.05.06 01:49:00 -
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I think this is about the CQC gameplay aswell. People wern't able to do stealth CQC. Now it might be possible.
Llan Heindell. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
62
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Posted - 2013.05.06 01:57:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Buster Friently wrote:The patch notes specifically mention reduced scan range. I'm not sure why you are surprised.
This is to make the EW role viable. Seems like it will be. at that rate they might as well just remove for everyone but scouts and scouts that's just maybe should have it. come on 2m what the hell is going to get that close, its basically made that area useless.and why do logis have 5m when they had the same range of assaults.. I think CCP just said this needs to be removed and randomly threw numbers out. guess this is even more range not to play a scout or even assault with the reduced equipment slots.thanks CCP for nerfing just about everything and things you can't find to nerf you make them cost more a ton more.
Yah the equipment slot thing is going to absolutely destroy scouts as a viable role. Right now I am a fully dedicated scout (proto) with my main character (Ignoble Son) and I will not be respecing into scout this build. I could see getting rid of one of the three equipment scouts are currently able to use, but limiting them to only one, and the unbelievable hard nerf to SR, as well as, a reduction in the number of high/low mod slots from six to five, and an even further nerf to base total HP, scout is looking pretty ridiculous this build. As a scout I will have to carry a scanner? And because I have to carry a scanner I can no longer carry ammo and a way to heal myself while I am off on my own SCOUTING! Ridiculous!
I will test scout out with my alt just so I can complain about it on the forums. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.05.06 01:59:00 -
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scan radius 2m or 5m = lol it's totally useless wtf ccp |
Tiluvo
Digital Mercs
61
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:00:00 -
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I wonder if they forgot a zero, but to make the same typo on every dropsuit seems unlikely. We'll know for sure in 9 hours. |
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:04:00 -
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Tiluvo wrote:I wonder if they forgot a zero, but to make the same typo on every dropsuit seems unlikely. We'll know for sure in 9 hours. thinking the same |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
323
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:05:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote:ladwar wrote:Buster Friently wrote:The patch notes specifically mention reduced scan range. I'm not sure why you are surprised.
This is to make the EW role viable. Seems like it will be. at that rate they might as well just remove for everyone but scouts and scouts that's just maybe should have it. come on 2m what the hell is going to get that close, its basically made that area useless.and why do logis have 5m when they had the same range of assaults.. I think CCP just said this needs to be removed and randomly threw numbers out. guess this is even more range not to play a scout or even assault with the reduced equipment slots.thanks CCP for nerfing just about everything and things you can't find to nerf you make them cost more a ton more. Yah the equipment slot thing is going to absolutely destroy scouts as a viable role. Right now I am a fully dedicated scout (proto) with my main character (Ignoble Son) and I will not be respecing into scout this build. I could see getting rid of one of the three equipment scouts are currently able to use, but limiting them to only one, and the unbelievable hard nerf to SR, as well as, a reduction in the number of high/low mod slots from six to five, and an even further nerf to base total HP, scout is looking pretty ridiculous this build. As a scout I will have to carry a scanner? And because I have to carry a scanner I can no longer carry ammo and a way to heal myself while I am off on my own SCOUTING! Ridiculous! [edit>>> not to mention the overall CPU nerf that is coming, when scouts were already CPU starved? I will test scout out with my alt just so I can complain about it on the forums. bye bye all scouts, it'll no longer be playable. |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:07:00 -
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good now instead of sucking on the tit of game mechanics to locate reds, you actually have to SEE THEM for you to actually SEE THEM |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
103
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:08:00 -
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start using your eyes on the field rather than on the mini map |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:11:00 -
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lol narrow FOV + no minimap = ??? |
WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
186
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:13:00 -
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Huge buff for scouts. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
323
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:15:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:start using your eyes on the field rather than on the mini map you know.. I don't even care now. it just going to be a CoD copy now and that's where I leave and pick up my CoD and never come back. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
364
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:44:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Greasepalms wrote:start using your eyes on the field rather than on the mini map you know.. I don't even care now. it just going to be a CoD copy now and that's where I leave and pick up my CoD and never come back.
Bye.
Me? I'll actually try it before I judge. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:47:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Greasepalms wrote:start using your eyes on the field rather than on the mini map you know.. I don't even care now. it just going to be a CoD copy now and that's where I leave and pick up my CoD and never come back. come back please |
Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
288
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:49:00 -
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Maybe since they are releasing that new equipment hmm what was it called again? I dont know active scanner |
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Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
288
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:50:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote:ladwar wrote:Greasepalms wrote:start using your eyes on the field rather than on the mini map you know.. I don't even care now. it just going to be a CoD copy now and that's where I leave and pick up my CoD and never come back. come back please Bye |
Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
288
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Posted - 2013.05.06 02:53:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Greasepalms wrote:start using your eyes on the field rather than on the mini map you know.. I don't even care now. it just going to be a CoD copy now and that's where I leave and pick up my CoD and never come back. Give me your stuff ? Thanks good bye |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
182
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Posted - 2013.05.06 03:07:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:ladwar wrote:Greasepalms wrote:start using your eyes on the field rather than on the mini map you know.. I don't even care now. it just going to be a CoD copy now and that's where I leave and pick up my CoD and never come back. Give me your stuff ? Thanks good bye I'm okay with this. Maybe we should put it to a vote? |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
288
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Posted - 2013.05.06 03:11:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:Nstomper wrote:ladwar wrote:Greasepalms wrote:start using your eyes on the field rather than on the mini map you know.. I don't even care now. it just going to be a CoD copy now and that's where I leave and pick up my CoD and never come back. Give me your stuff ? Thanks good bye I'm okay with this. Maybe we should put it to a vote? Sure For all who wants me to get lad's stuff type N for all who wants digiops to get lad's stuff type D |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
271
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Posted - 2013.05.06 03:11:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:The patch notes specifically mention reduced scan range. I'm not sure why you are surprised.
This is to make the EW role viable. Seems like it will be.
Electronic Warfare isn't viable if your electronics never worked in the first place. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
1092
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Posted - 2013.05.06 04:29:00 -
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Wait, you're complaining that you won't know where everyone is at all times? I think that this change will make the game more fun. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2811
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Posted - 2013.05.06 04:32:00 -
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As a stealth scout I've learned not to put too much faith in my radar anyways |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
77
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Posted - 2013.05.06 04:37:00 -
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I guess Tacnet (shared radars) and the active scanner will still make things light up. Scanning is supposed to be good for WP. If it's unlimited charges, some guy can just sit on a roof somewhere and spam it for WP? It'll keep the red dots lit up anyway. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3023
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Posted - 2013.05.06 04:45:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:start using your eyes on the field rather than on the mini map
LOL ppl have **** awareness already on DUST with the easy way ppl already show up.....god forbid ppl rely on their own eyes and awareness now
CCP really making ppl think now about those extra equipment slots logis have lol |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
185
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Posted - 2013.05.06 05:19:00 -
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I like it. Kind of like in electronics-good, fast, or cheap you can only pick two. |
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