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DJINN Axeman
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:17:00 -
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I was playing a Skirmish and just landed under my MCC when Penzer Edelweiss of Armed-Intervention decided to try and run me over. I assumed he just wanted me in his lab so I proceeded up the hill to get to my sniper position. Two seconds later I hear an lab being spawned behind me. I figured he was going to another area on map... next thing I know I'm dead and my Thale gun that can't be replaced is gone. I spawn on ground base to just avoid situation and I tried asking him to stop as I get smashed again into a building. Losing yet another Thale! Upon third spawning, he figured out where I was again and spawned his lab over my head crushing me. I was busy trying to look down my scope to help my team! I feel that if you kill someone accidentally or on purpose, on your own team, you should have to replenish all of their weapons and suits. If they have an officers weapon then you give them yours. I have no problem with paying for someone if I accidentally kill them because it was an accident! If people have to pay for their teammate's death then all of the team killing stops! I've never seen this guy before and this has been happening a lot and I am just sick of trying to build my guy and play by the rules when this person gets away with this injustice! |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
242
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:18:00 -
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INB4"QQ"! |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1380
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:22:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:INB4"QQ"! You are the QQ, you have failed. Or succeeded in the span of one post, hmmm... |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:23:00 -
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Stfu, probably the only thale you lost in 20 games. |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
241
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:25:00 -
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DJINN Axeman wrote: I am just sick of trying to build my guy and play by the rules when this person gets away with this injustice!
Your corp really needs to let you know more about Dust. There is no rules, there is no injustice..... there are guidlines. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
290
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:29:00 -
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oh man... the number of TKs I have... I just have to say lol, its a pub match why bring what you can't afford to lose. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
196
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:31:00 -
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Hey there Axeman I've seen you at work and you are nasty with that sniper rifle. Thats pretty much why we had to waste that second OB on you...that is if you even remember the match we played against you.
Its not so much that you deserved it, not is it anything personal against you. I imagine that if Panzer did do what you said he did its in regards to the growing frustration people are having with players who give up and redline snipe.
It it they who are eclipsing you actually talented snipers who do achieve something on the map.
I've seen entire matches where our team has been so close to winning but also of sudden the blue dots give up, scamper back to the red line, and snipe the rest of the match with little to no effect.
I'll admit I've team killed those guys before however I tend to remember who was sniping at the start of the match so I dont nab snipers with good gear. |
Spy Mouse
New Eden Space Pirates
20
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:33:00 -
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DJINN Axeman wrote:Upon third spawning, he figured out where I was again and spawned his lab over my head crushing me. A scientist is spawning his lab over your head? Don't get in the way of his experiments. |
Henry FitzEmpress
Reaper Galactic
35
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:33:00 -
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Whenever I hear the RDV coming in, I look up and around in the sky as I don't want to get crushed. I make sure I'm in an ok spot and move if I have too. Even if it isn't on purpose, there is a good chance to get LAV/HAV smushed if you are not paying attention. Pretty much all you can do. Stay mobile. |
DJINN Axeman
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:41:00 -
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um I don't know? How about to play the game as best as I can instead of being the childish, underdeveloped, idiot that would rather spend all their time and what little intelligence they have sabotaging their own teammates and burning future bridges! Why not work at making the game better or more fun? Because they don't have a high enough I.Q. to win at this game, so they feel if they can't win, then they want to make everyone else miserable and to them its funny. The funny part is a have a three year old nephew who exhibits this same behavior. I feel bad for these people as they have "bully" personalities and in their real lives will never amount to anything better than middle management. To me, now that's funny! |
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:44:00 -
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I had a bolas drop my LAV on top of me three times in a row, after which I stopped trying to call one in. I mean it literally kept following me and waited for the last second to hover over top of me and let it go.
Where the hellion is that pilot's penalty? |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:46:00 -
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Lol. Hellstorm competely f***s over STB and QG, then asks to punish TK'ers. |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
151
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:47:00 -
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Henry FitzEmpress wrote:Whenever I hear the RDV coming in, I look up and around in the sky as I don't want to get crushed. I make sure I'm in an ok spot and move if I have too. Even if it isn't on purpose, there is a good chance to get LAV/HAV smushed if you are not paying attention. Pretty much all you can do. Stay mobile. If I hear an RDV I run to the closest supply depot and switch to my AV fit. |
ca ronic
Moffit Bros
6
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:50:00 -
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Bummer. He probably was having a lot of fun, twisted minds. I never skilled into my thale snipers, and I think they are going to be gone on Monday, not sure though. |
DJINN Axeman
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:51:00 -
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Vysarii, I do remember and I respect you and your group. This began at the start I tried in game mailing him to stop and all I got back was a smiley face. To the other guy, I never heard the lab at all. So, no sh!t, I normally get out of the way or take their lav. This is not my first rodeo. Still have a hard enough time playing the game trying not to get killed by enemy, I don't have time to watch out for my own team. If that happened in the army you would be in the brig! Just say in if you killed somebody on your team, you should pay for their stuff and aside from a few actual accidents, this bullish!t would stop! End of story! |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
149
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:54:00 -
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I think a lot of folks just hate snipers in general. Not long after some threads hating on snipers i'd have team members shooting me and stuff -- sucked.
Perhaps I killed them a few times in a prior game or something? |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
152
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:33:00 -
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TBH, I agree that something needs to be done about TKing.
It sounds counter intuitive, though I think FF being on would in the long term fix the TK problem. Right now, the only way to TK is by exploiting game mechanics, leaving no way to retaliate except by using the same exploits.
If we're not going to have a negative to TKing, give us FF so we can deal with it ourselves. Trust me, it won't be as bad as some think it will. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
291
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:36:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:TBH, I agree that something needs to be done about TKing.
It sounds counter intuitive, though I think FF being on would in the long term fix the TK problem. Right now, the only way to TK is by exploiting game mechanics, leaving no way to retaliate except by using the same exploits.
If we're not going to have a negative to TKing, give us FF so we can deal with it ourselves. Trust me, it won't be as bad as some think it will. and that's where your wrong.. griefer are a big part of eve and turning FF in pub matches turns into a big grief feast. as who cares if you win theres nothing to gain by it. |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
365
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:41:00 -
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Lol. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2187
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:45:00 -
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I hate to see how you react when your corp gets robbed, disbanded, and humiliated by a spy or when you get scammed out of your hard-earned ISK once the trade market comes in. |
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LeCuch
Red Star. EoN.
32
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:46:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I hate to see how you react when your corp gets robbed, disbanded, and humiliated by a spy or when you get scammed out of your hard-earned ISK once the trade market comes in. Lol in Dust anything goes
I've lost atleast 15 mill from Bolas dropping my tanks in the wrong spots. Or blowing them up alltogether. What's a few Thale's over 15 million ISK? |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2187
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:47:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:DJINN Axeman wrote:Upon third spawning, he figured out where I was again and spawned his lab over my head crushing me. A scientist is spawning his lab over your head? Don't get in the way of his experiments.
I was thinking of a Labrador. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
152
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:07:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:TBH, I agree that something needs to be done about TKing.
It sounds counter intuitive, though I think FF being on would in the long term fix the TK problem. Right now, the only way to TK is by exploiting game mechanics, leaving no way to retaliate except by using the same exploits.
If we're not going to have a negative to TKing, give us FF so we can deal with it ourselves. Trust me, it won't be as bad as some think it will. and that's where your wrong.. griefer are a big part of eve and turning FF in pub matches turns into a big grief feast. as who cares if you win theres nothing to gain by it.
You're just afraid you'd be targeted. No FF means no real recourse for forums asshattery. Besides, there are mechanics to deal with griefing in Eve, no reason there shouldn't be in Dust.
If Risk v. Reward gameplay is to be had in Dust, both FF and "punishment" mechanic for griefing need to be included. |
DJINN Axeman
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:29:00 -
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First, Maken, I don't need to worry about my corporation ever disbanding as we are solid here and in eve! As, for the other gentleman trying to compare a tank that can be bought to a weapon that can't... really??!!! I can buy tanks all day long, but that's because I'm good enough to afford it! Can't buy back a Thale. When its gone, its gone. That simple! I have dealt with stuff dropped on my vehicles and have dealt with d!ckheads in the past, I am just fed up with the bull and its time to pay! |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
179
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:37:00 -
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When I hear an LAV, I usually get out of the way. Then again, I've only been TKed once and it was a complete accident. It was my own fault for not paying attention. I even got a nice little apology message after the match explaining that it wasn't intended.
Then again, I'm useful. |
Blind Nojoy
G I A N T EoN.
25
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:37:00 -
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Saw some guys from immobile infantry doing LAV TKs a week ago. Got me once, then a buddy in my squad had an idea. He was a scout, went and stood in the road and the guy started driving towards him. He timed it right and when the driver switched, he hit circle and hijacked the dudes wheels. Drove it over to the redline and poof.
I think he got the guy 3 or 4 times during the match.
You can never completely stop ass-hattery and douchery, but you can give them a taste of their own medicine sometimes! |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1428
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:00:00 -
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I have been taught in the ways of the TK-dom and practice it liberally with all my blue brothers. I am thankful that my mentor Master Sammus has brought me to goonlightenment |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
200
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:02:00 -
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DJINN Axeman wrote:um I don't know? How about to play the game as best as I can instead of being the childish, underdeveloped, idiot that would rather spend all their time and what little intelligence they have sabotaging their own teammates and burning future bridges! Why not work at making the game better or more fun? Because they don't have a high enough I.Q. to win at this game, so they feel if they can't win, then they want to make everyone else miserable and to them its funny. The funny part is a have a three year old nephew who exhibits this same behavior. I feel bad for these people as they have "bully" personalities and in their real lives will never amount to anything better than middle management. To me, now that's funny!
Wait did a sniper in a Skirmish match just tell me that he can help win from a redline scneario? |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
29
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:09:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:I have been taught in the ways of the TK-dom and practice it liberally with all my blue brothers. I am thankful that my mentor Master Sammus has brought me to goonlightenment We are all Sammus' students. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
183
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:19:00 -
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Use a charged. Much better. I got orbital'd solo sniping earlier today (albeit not behind the redline). I take that as the ultimate compliment. You know how much work they had to do to kill you with an Orb? Talk about giving up ;)
Just mess with people back.. figure it out. One thing to consider is that you may have owned the fuk out of him in another match and he was just extracting revenge in the only way he could.
sucks to be good, eh?
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
295
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:27:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:ladwar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:TBH, I agree that something needs to be done about TKing.
It sounds counter intuitive, though I think FF being on would in the long term fix the TK problem. Right now, the only way to TK is by exploiting game mechanics, leaving no way to retaliate except by using the same exploits.
If we're not going to have a negative to TKing, give us FF so we can deal with it ourselves. Trust me, it won't be as bad as some think it will. and that's where your wrong.. griefer are a big part of eve and turning FF in pub matches turns into a big grief feast. as who cares if you win theres nothing to gain by it. You're just afraid you'd be targeted. No FF means no real recourse for forums asshattery. Besides, there are mechanics to deal with griefing in Eve, no reason there shouldn't be in Dust. If Risk v. Reward gameplay is to be had in Dust, both FF and "punishment" mechanic for griefing need to be included. to be honest if FF was every turn on theres a lot names on my block list that I would go after and murder repeatedly even if they were on my team and I wouldn't care to help win.. TK is all I would do and there is no punishment that would stop(unless I really couldn't que for matches which I LOL about) the rain of terror I would have fun with I have plenty of isk and lots of cheap ways to TK now and later. FF on pub matches is just bad. |
danny12343331
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
49
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:29:00 -
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Watch out for, "Goonfeet". Bunch of team killing players in that corp. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
31
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:40:00 -
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danny12343331 wrote:Watch out for, "Goonfeet". Bunch of team killing players in that corp. God bless their souls. |
Moronic Farce
Goonfeet
7
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:46:00 -
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danny12343331 wrote:Watch out for, "Goonfeet". Bunch of team killing players in that corp.
Goonfeet has been around for a day and a half and its already famous! Take that people who work for corp recognition the "right" way! |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax. CRONOS.
379
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:53:00 -
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Welcome to New Eden. Don't use anything you can't afford to lose. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
769
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Posted - 2013.05.05 07:56:00 -
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danny12343331 wrote:Watch out for, "Goonfeet". Bunch of team killing players in that corp.
I'm afraid I must object to this deplorable and unwarranted accusation. We of the Goonfeet Corporation have not been involved in any such thing, all trolling aside and do not endorse it. Should this teamkilling you speak of become a problem in the game with our members please send me an in-game mail with the appropriate information. Who was doing the teamkilling, how they were doing it, who the victims were.
We are not the Immobile Infantry and will not stand for such juvenile behavior. Rest assured that if the behavior is reported it will be dealt with appropriately.
In conclusion, if it wasn't one of my corpmates who drove over the OP multiple times then I must point and laugh.
But we don't do that kind of thing. |
sammus420
Goonfeet
43
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Posted - 2013.05.05 08:11:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote: Wait did a sniper in a Skirmish match just tell me that he can help win from a redline scneario?
I had a guy tell me that same thing recently over 4 long hate and tear filled messages after I liberated his Thale rifle from him. His answer when I told him to try leaving the redline was litterally "Why would I do that?"
If you're behind the red in skirmish, I don't care if you go 100/0. You aren't helping your team win nearly as much as you think you are.
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
302
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Posted - 2013.05.05 08:19:00 -
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don't like snipers in skirmish? snipers have a point but the trend is that they don't help out much. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
769
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Posted - 2013.05.05 08:25:00 -
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ladwar wrote:don't like snipers in skirmish? snipers have a point but the trend is that they don't help out much.
snipers at the redline add nothing useful to a skirmish match except maybe a few random dead redberries. Shotty Scouts are far more useful because they can assassinate and take objectives.
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Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
203
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Posted - 2013.05.05 08:27:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote: Wait did a sniper in a Skirmish match just tell me that he can help win from a redline scneario?
I had a guy tell me that same thing recently over 4 long hate and tear filled messages after I liberated his Thale rifle from him. His answer when I told him to try leaving the redline was litterally "Why would I do that?" If you're behind the red in skirmish, I don't care if you go 100/0. You aren't helping your team win nearly as much as you think you are.
The only time I have ever seen a sniper help in Skirmish was when they camped an open objective and prevented any hacks on it until his squad arrive on it.
Otherwise they are simply sitting out there hoping no one sees them and that people who are actually fighting are dying due to lack of support. |
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sammus420
Goonfeet
43
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Posted - 2013.05.05 08:28:00 -
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ladwar wrote:don't like snipers in skirmish? snipers have a point but the trend is that they don't help out much.
I don't mind snipers who get into the game and go places where they actually have to do slightly more than focus down their scope and never watch their back. I think sniping in Dust is actually a lot of fun. But it's a bad gameplay mechanic when they can sit somewhere completely immune to the other team and plink away at people. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
153
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Posted - 2013.05.05 14:33:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:ladwar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:TBH, I agree that something needs to be done about TKing.
It sounds counter intuitive, though I think FF being on would in the long term fix the TK problem. Right now, the only way to TK is by exploiting game mechanics, leaving no way to retaliate except by using the same exploits.
If we're not going to have a negative to TKing, give us FF so we can deal with it ourselves. Trust me, it won't be as bad as some think it will. and that's where your wrong.. griefer are a big part of eve and turning FF in pub matches turns into a big grief feast. as who cares if you win theres nothing to gain by it. You're just afraid you'd be targeted. No FF means no real recourse for forums asshattery. Besides, there are mechanics to deal with griefing in Eve, no reason there shouldn't be in Dust. If Risk v. Reward gameplay is to be had in Dust, both FF and "punishment" mechanic for griefing need to be included. to be honest if FF was every turn on theres a lot names on my block list that I would go after and murder repeatedly even if they were on my team and I wouldn't care to help win.. TK is all I would do and there is no punishment that would stop(unless I really couldn't que for matches which I LOL about) the rain of terror I would have fun with I have plenty of isk and lots of cheap ways to TK now and later. FF on pub matches is just bad.
If we ever get standings with NPC corps for fighting then you may be restricted to only fighting in PC by way of player contracts. If you lose enough standing that the NPC corps will not offer you contracts and with stiff enough fines for TKing you'd get shut down quick enough.
Lose enough standing and then you're left all on your lonesome, go ahead make a TK alt and run around with **** skills until you run that one into the ground too. FF isn't a bad as people seem to think it would be. FF is on in Eve, if only for New Eden consistency it should be on in Dust too. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.05 14:41:00 -
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This does not only effect snipers I have spawned in at the beginning of a game in my Heavy was run down by a blue LAV. The same guy continued to run down various other teammates including me another time or two throughout the entire match.
It is uncalled for and these players should be banned. |
Delta 749
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.05.05 14:51:00 -
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Im amazed there isnt an auto kick already in place after X amount of team kills But I guess Im not really all that surprised since they didnt even do a good job of preventing them in the first place |
Billi Gene
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
136
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:17:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:ladwar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:TBH, I agree that something needs to be done about TKing.
It sounds counter intuitive, though I think FF being on would in the long term fix the TK problem. Right now, the only way to TK is by exploiting game mechanics, leaving no way to retaliate except by using the same exploits.
If we're not going to have a negative to TKing, give us FF so we can deal with it ourselves. Trust me, it won't be as bad as some think it will. and that's where your wrong.. griefer are a big part of eve and turning FF in pub matches turns into a big grief feast. as who cares if you win theres nothing to gain by it. You're just afraid you'd be targeted. No FF means no real recourse for forums asshattery. Besides, there are mechanics to deal with griefing in Eve, no reason there shouldn't be in Dust. If Risk v. Reward gameplay is to be had in Dust, both FF and "punishment" mechanic for griefing need to be included.
currently th only game mode that will have any hint of risk will be PC, DUST FW has the same rewards as Pub matches, and although it is tied into EvE FW has little real consequence for DUSTers.
Allowing FF into FW or Pub matches would only estrange newer players from DUST, and further would be openly abused by griefers.
I could see FF in FW if TK incurred faction standing loss, and that mercs would need to be ferried across New Eden as scannable cargo, opening up the possibility of losing a ship if you carry a Merc with negative standing thru faction space :P
THAT would be a proper example of Eve-like risk/reward :P and a system that though abusable in the short term would quickly counterbalance DUST FW TKer actions, disallowing them from joining on a faction side that they have lost to much standing with from TKing.
but then the griefers would have no fun =D ... :P.. 'yaaaaay' for kiddies and their games...... |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
649
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:48:00 -
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Team-killed a guy twice with an LAV, he ended up sending me almost 30 mails during the match in order to spam me.
Which is rather stupid cause that stuff I report strait to support and am expecting some form of ban. ;) |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2192
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:52:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Team-killed a guy twice with an LAV, he ended up sending me almost 30 mails during the match in order to spam me.
Which is rather stupid cause that stuff I report strait to support and am expecting some form of ban. ;)
Must have been trying to do to you what alliance fleets use to do to carrier pilots in Eve before CCP labeled it an exploit. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
649
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:55:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Rasatsu wrote:Team-killed a guy twice with an LAV, he ended up sending me almost 30 mails during the match in order to spam me.
Which is rather stupid cause that stuff I report strait to support and am expecting some form of ban. ;) Must have been trying to do to you what alliance fleets use to do to carrier pilots in Eve before CCP labeled it an exploit. That's why, when seeing the incoming email notifications grow from 10, 15, 20 to 25+ a grin of delight grew.
Writing the support email was pure bliss. I might even have giggled a bit. |
Enderr Wigginn
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
96
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Posted - 2013.05.06 09:00:00 -
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danny12343331 wrote:Watch out for, "Goonfeet". Bunch of team killing players in that corp.
Yep they got me twice tonight with a lav at least they were BPO suits and tried with a grenade while I was calling in a lav but failed. There was a squad of them, they went 0-12, 1-14 and 2-16 with 0 sp. I know them now I will just back out of a match I see them in and warned my corp. |
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