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Grezkev
The Red Guards EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 17:44:00 -
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The TANK: "a tracked, armoured fighting vehicle designed for front-line combat which combines operational mobility and tactical offensive and defensive capabilities"; "an enclosed heavily armed and armored combat vehicle that moves on tracks"
The tank made its first appearance in combat in the shakedown in Austria following the assassination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand. It was known simply as an 'armored car', and served a primary purpose of cover and a rallying point for police forces throughout Austria.
The Tank's big breakthrough however was with the Mark V British armored vehicle that was later replicated by Germany during the early months of World War 1. Slow, clunky, and poorly armed, the tank could do little more than traverse the battlefield and provide cover for flanking troops. It's armor however, was revolutionary. Not even the famous German .82 Howitzer could damage its outer shell.
We didn't see the tanks true potential and power however until World War II against the ***** in Europe. ******'s Panzerjager division was well equipped with vehicles that featured heavy armor in the front, and large powerful 80mm cannons. The use of the tank by the ***** was quite simply: Demoralize the enemy. Troops would create a line of scrimmage, then after securing a position would charge their tanks into enemy territory. The tactic was part of the **** Blitzkrieg, however it came with a heavy consequence: There was a loss factor of about 40% of all tanks that engaged in the first assault.
The French and the Allies used their tanks in a different manner. Rather than arm them with large cannons that could destroy an entire building, they built smaller 45-60mm turrets that could use a variety of shells (anti-tank, anti-infantry, anti-air). Some of the tanks were even so versatile that rockets could be placed on them to fire blind into enemy territory.
In the Allied Invasion of Europe (Operation Overlord), the Canadian, British, and American forces siezed upon key cities such as Carentan in the inner regions of Northern France with the primary goal of linking up beachheads together. The reason was obvious: Tanks could not advance into France without a clear road. Infantry were required to secure areas of advancement before tanks could be used to control the area and lock it down. In other words, The Allied used the tanks as a secondary defensive line, and their primary role was to assist troops.
Not surprisingly, the Allies won the war and lost less tanks than anyone...including the Soviet Union who tried to use tanks in a similar way to the Germans.
The lesson here is simple: Tanks are not blitzkrieg devices or tools. They are infantry-support, and anti-vehicle. Using them without consideration for these roles...and just trying to one-man it around the battlefield....SHOULD BE...and will be....the easiest way to waste away a Tank.
That's my opinion on everyone's complaints about the tanks. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.05.04 17:56:00 -
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Quite. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
816
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Posted - 2013.05.04 17:57:00 -
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Thank you for pointing out the facts.
Sadly, it won't end the QQ. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
419
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Posted - 2013.05.04 17:59:00 -
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You are an idiot
We are thousands of years ahead in the future with materials and devices which have only ever been dreamed about
Who are you to say that we havnt got a tank which is a mobile death star with tracks which can wipe out the entire team |
Grezkev
The Red Guards EoN.
203
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:05:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:You are an idiot
We are thousands of years ahead in the future with materials and devices which have only ever been dreamed about
Who are you to say that we havnt got a tank which is a mobile death star with tracks which can wipe out the entire team
Lieutenant Taka of the Allied Corporation Red*Star of EoN, please don't talk to higher ups in such a manner.
I am not an idiot, actually, I am a historian by profession and I expressed this quite simply because this is the origin of the tank. It is the only primary usage of the tank in warfare a game designer (CCP) has to work with in terms of developing their software.
"We are thousands of years in the future".......We are actually playing a game that was designed in the 21st century, a game whose designers are limited to the experiences of the 20th and 21st century for their designing utility of 'the tank'. To pretend that understandings and complexities beyond our own can exist in something that we ourselves created in the present is nothing short of ignorance.
Who am I to say that you haven't got a tank that's a mobile death star? Well I'm the guy that's here telling you that never happened before. And if you don't learn from history, you're bound to repeat it.
Besides, when you break it all down...the game is not very different from WW2 combat. Infantry are the SHOCK troops...the primary roles of the battlefield. Their ability to put down a tank should be higher, if not equally matched, by their ability to be killed by one. Infantry have always been more mobile than tanks, and their ability to flank a tank, surround it, and destroy it should be no different "a thousand years from now" as it is today.
Get over it Taka. Then go talk to Nano. |
Den-tredje Baron
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
7
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:10:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:You are an idiot
We are thousands of years ahead in the future with materials and devices which have only ever been dreamed about
Who are you to say that we havnt got a tank which is a mobile death star with tracks which can wipe out the entire team mmmm same argument for AV stuff. Who says they haven't found a way to make nukes in form of hand grenades. Wrong argument against this post.
Grezkev wrote: The TANK: "a tracked, armoured fighting vehicle designed for front-line combat which combines operational mobility and tactical offensive and defensive capabilities"; "an enclosed heavily armed and armored combat vehicle that moves on tracks"
(Didn't want to quote your entire post ) Well yeah tanks aren't the death wagons so many try to make them into in REAL LIFE. Sorry CCP stated from the beginning that this shouldn't be a realistic future vision of the world as we know it. They are trying to make everything balanced. So that a tank isn't being soloed by a one guy standing on a nanohive throwing AV grenades like no tomorrow.
You are totally right though that tanks a lot of the time forget their infantry and kind of do a blitz krieg without infantry. The times i've actually been with a tank who had infantry around damm we where doing GOOD !!. (untill ONE heavy with an assault forge gun decided to shoot the hell out of our tank) So yeah would like to see that it takes a team effort to kill a tank again. Not just one guy.
EDIT: hehe same ally going nuts on each other that's what i call brother love But Taka go back and polish your killswitch GEK and use some more aurum gear. Maybe you can buy someone to make better arguments for you. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
419
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:11:00 -
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Grezkev wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:You are an idiot
We are thousands of years ahead in the future with materials and devices which have only ever been dreamed about
Who are you to say that we havnt got a tank which is a mobile death star with tracks which can wipe out the entire team Lieutenant Taka of the Allied Corporation Red*Star of EoN, please don't talk to higher ups in such a manner. I am not an idiot, actually, I am a historian by profession and I expressed this quite simply because this is the origin of the tank. It is the only primary usage of the tank in warfare a game designer (CCP) has to work with in terms of developing their software. "We are thousands of years in the future".......We are actually playing a game that was designed in the 21st century, a game whose designers are limited to the experiences of the 20th and 21st century for their designing utility of 'the tank'. To pretend that understandings and complexities beyond our own can exist in something that we ourselves created in the present is nothing short of ignorance. Who am I to say that you haven't got a tank that's a mobile death star? Well I'm the guy that's here telling you that never happened before. And if you don't learn from history, you're bound to repeat it. Besides, when you break it all down...the game is not very different from WW2 combat. Infantry are the SHOCK troops...the primary roles of the battlefield. Their ability to put down a tank should be higher, if not equally matched, by their ability to be killed by one. Infantry have always been more mobile than tanks, and their ability to flank a tank, surround it, and destroy it should be no different "a thousand years from now" as it is today. And this is all said by someone who prefers to roll with a tank....and will roll with a tank after the update. Difference between me and the QQers is I can rationalize the change. ADAPT OR DIE. Get over it Taka. Then go talk to Nano.
You can kiss my ass
I do not report to anyone and if you dont like my opinion then go cry about it to nano or whoever
The game is designed in this century but the lore and everything else is thousands of years ahead so things could have changed
In fact why cant my tank fly instead and shoot lasers at anything that moves or throw monkeys at ppl instead
Its called imagination and doesnt have to stick to the rules of the real world since its a game
******* idiot
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Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
816
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:11:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:You are an idiot
We are thousands of years ahead in the future with materials and devices which have only ever been dreamed about
Who are you to say that we havnt got a tank which is a mobile death star with tracks which can wipe out the entire team
Because Anti-Tank weapons always keep pace and are never more than one generation behind.
So, before you call the OP an idiot for pointing out the truth...
HTFU. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
419
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:13:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:You are an idiot
We are thousands of years ahead in the future with materials and devices which have only ever been dreamed about
Who are you to say that we havnt got a tank which is a mobile death star with tracks which can wipe out the entire team Because Anti-Tank weapons always keep pace and are never more than one generation behind. So, before you call the OP an idiot for pointing out the truth... HTFU.
Meh im going HAV next build anyways
Railgun on the hill ftw |
Grezkev
The Red Guards EoN.
204
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:16:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:You can kiss my ass
I do not report to anyone and if you dont like my opinion then go cry about it to nano or whoever
The game is designed in this century but the lore and everything else is thousands of years ahead so things could have changed
In fact why cant my tank fly instead and shoot lasers at anything that moves or throw monkeys at ppl instead
Its called imagination and doesnt have to stick to the rules of the real world since its a game
******* idiot
Insubordination within EoN....fascinating.
"things could have changed" ---> You used the key word "could", well guess what: They didn't. Get over it.
Throw monkeys? I see you're just a troubled youngster who's butthurt over losing his ability to troll around Ambush matches. That truly is...'imagination.'
You aren't on the game's development team so your imagination is worth about as much as a toilet with no seat.
They don't say 'the truth hurts' for no reason. They also say...'You can't handle the truth.' I guess you're just a great example of that Taka. |
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Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
816
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:17:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote: In fact why cant my tank fly instead and shoot lasers at anything that moves or throw monkeys at ppl instead
Its called imagination and doesnt have to stick to the rules of the real world since its a game
******* idiot
The OP made a point that you cannot deny. You can ignore it, but the game will not support your ignorance:
Grezkev wrote:The lesson here is simple: Tanks are not blitzkrieg devices or tools. They are infantry-support, and anti-vehicle. Using them without consideration for these roles...and just trying to one-man it around the battlefield....SHOULD BE...and will be....the easiest way to waste away a Tank.
We're not playing a game about monkey-throwing flying death stars.
CCP is not making that game.
If you want to play it, you can go make it.
Then all the pansy-poopers can pubstomp anyone dumb enough to sign up while the rest of us play a balanced game.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
419
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:20:00 -
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Grezkev wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:You can kiss my ass
I do not report to anyone and if you dont like my opinion then go cry about it to nano or whoever
The game is designed in this century but the lore and everything else is thousands of years ahead so things could have changed
In fact why cant my tank fly instead and shoot lasers at anything that moves or throw monkeys at ppl instead
Its called imagination and doesnt have to stick to the rules of the real world since its a game
******* idiot
Insubordination within EoN....fascinating. "things could have changed" ---> You used the key word "could", well guess what: They didn't. Get over it. Throw monkeys? I see you're just a troubled youngster who's butthurt over losing his ability to troll around Ambush matches. That truly is...'imagination.' You aren't on the game's development team so your imagination is worth about as much as a toilet with no seat. They don't say 'the truth hurts' for no reason. They also say...'You can't handle the truth.' I guess you're just a great example of that Taka.
lol insubordination
What a joke
He thinks i play ambush in a tank lol, no i dont do what you do i play in skirmish where i have to survive AV and OB strikes, you know where players can change fits and actually hunt me down |
Grezkev
The Red Guards EoN.
206
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:22:00 -
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You're just mad that the game is reflecting a more accurate portrayal of the tank, Taka. It's breaking down your ability to exploit one aspect of it.
You will get over it. You'll have to....or you'll quit the game. That simple. I hear you can still dominate the battlefield like a joke in Battlefield Vietnam with the Soviet attack chopper. Why don't you go play that? |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
157
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:24:00 -
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We can also use tanks to kill people miles away we can also do that with an apache |
Grezkev
The Red Guards EoN.
206
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:26:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:We can also use tanks to kill people miles away we can also do that with an apache
Apache is closer to a dropship, don't you think? Or perhaps if they made an "attack-dedicated" dropship with no transport and heavier weapons. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
157
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:27:00 -
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Grezkev wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:We can also use tanks to kill people miles away we can also do that with an apache Apache is closer to a dropship, don't you think? Or perhaps if they made an "attack-dedicated" dropship with no transport and heavier weapons. Sorry that was the point of the apache was for dropship guess I should have said so |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
421
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:28:00 -
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Grezkev wrote:You're just mad that the game is reflecting a more accurate portrayal of the tank, Taka. It's breaking down your ability to exploit one aspect of it.
You will get over it. You'll have to....or you'll quit the game. That simple. I hear you can still dominate the battlefield like a joke in Battlefield Vietnam with the Soviet attack chopper. Why don't you go play that?
Acurate portrayal
Okay then if 1 AV person can solo a tank then why dont we just have 1 HS = death and several bullets in the chest = death
Make it super realistic like life with no respawn
But if we did that it would more or less be COD in space and shields/armor and everything in the game would be absolete and pointless
Then again would that be fun making it into a twitch shooter? well it doesnt matter because war isnt fun but it should be accurate like life and reflect war
Wrong game ther G this is DUST and not cod
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Grezkev
The Red Guards EoN.
207
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:35:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Grezkev wrote:You're just mad that the game is reflecting a more accurate portrayal of the tank, Taka. It's breaking down your ability to exploit one aspect of it.
You will get over it. You'll have to....or you'll quit the game. That simple. I hear you can still dominate the battlefield like a joke in Battlefield Vietnam with the Soviet attack chopper. Why don't you go play that? Acurate portrayal Okay then if 1 AV person can solo a tank then why dont we just have 1 HS = death and several bullets in the chest = death Make it super realistic like life with no respawn But if we did that it would more or less be COD in space and shields/armor and everything in the game would be absolete and pointless Then again would that be fun making it into a twitch shooter? well it doesnt matter because war isnt fun but it should be accurate like life and reflect war Wrong game ther G this is DUST and not cod
Two troops in WW2 with a small rocket could take out a Panzer IV with 1-2 hits. No different from an "AV nade"
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
421
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:39:00 -
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Grezkev wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Grezkev wrote:You're just mad that the game is reflecting a more accurate portrayal of the tank, Taka. It's breaking down your ability to exploit one aspect of it.
You will get over it. You'll have to....or you'll quit the game. That simple. I hear you can still dominate the battlefield like a joke in Battlefield Vietnam with the Soviet attack chopper. Why don't you go play that? Acurate portrayal Okay then if 1 AV person can solo a tank then why dont we just have 1 HS = death and several bullets in the chest = death Make it super realistic like life with no respawn But if we did that it would more or less be COD in space and shields/armor and everything in the game would be absolete and pointless Then again would that be fun making it into a twitch shooter? well it doesnt matter because war isnt fun but it should be accurate like life and reflect war Wrong game ther G this is DUST and not cod Two troops in WW2 with a small rocket could take out a Panzer IV with 1-2 hits. No different from an "AV nade"
A Challenger tank in Iraq took over 14 RPGs and was fine except for the tracks
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Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
819
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:42:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Acurate portrayal
Okay then if 1 AV person can solo a tank then why dont we just have 1 HS = death and several bullets in the chest = death
Make it super realistic like life with no respawn
But if we did that it would more or less be COD in space and shields/armor and everything in the game would be absolete and pointless
Then again would that be fun making it into a twitch shooter? well it doesnt matter because war isnt fun but it should be accurate like life and reflect war
Wrong game ther G this is DUST and not cod
Bakahiro makes a nice point here, until you view it in context.
In RL, a single shot from a "Standard" one-man anti-tank weapon turns a "Militia" tank into smoking ruin pretty reliably.
In Dust, a single shot from a "Standard" one-man anti-tank weapon seriously damages a "Militia" tank, which can then run away, repair itself in seconds, get remote repaired, etc. and come back to fight.
CCP has already made the correct assumptions in how to make tanking more fun than RL.
The problem is that bad tankers are operating under bad assumptions.
Assumptions that Grezkev was helpfully trying to correct by pointing out that tankers that want to survive:
Act as infantry support Act as anti-vehicle Rely infantry support Field a full crew Do not blitzkrieg Do not operate ahead of their infantry screen |
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slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
254
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:44:00 -
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Grezkev wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Grezkev wrote:You're just mad that the game is reflecting a more accurate portrayal of the tank, Taka. It's breaking down your ability to exploit one aspect of it.
You will get over it. You'll have to....or you'll quit the game. That simple. I hear you can still dominate the battlefield like a joke in Battlefield Vietnam with the Soviet attack chopper. Why don't you go play that? Acurate portrayal Okay then if 1 AV person can solo a tank then why dont we just have 1 HS = death and several bullets in the chest = death Make it super realistic like life with no respawn But if we did that it would more or less be COD in space and shields/armor and everything in the game would be absolete and pointless Then again would that be fun making it into a twitch shooter? well it doesnt matter because war isnt fun but it should be accurate like life and reflect war Wrong game ther G this is DUST and not cod Two troops in WW2 with a small rocket could take out a Panzer IV with 1-2 hits. No different from an "AV nade" I don't know about the panzer, but I've heard a lot about german tanks where american tank shells and bazookas would just bounce off. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
7
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:44:00 -
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Quote:We are thousands of years ahead in the future with materials and devices which have only ever been dreamed about
And yet they cannot make a rifle with the 550 meter effective point target range of an M-16 which was first designed in 1956. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
163
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:47:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Grezkev wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:You are an idiot
We are thousands of years ahead in the future with materials and devices which have only ever been dreamed about
Who are you to say that we havnt got a tank which is a mobile death star with tracks which can wipe out the entire team Lieutenant Taka of the Allied Corporation Red*Star of EoN, please don't talk to higher ups in such a manner. I am not an idiot, actually, I am a historian by profession and I expressed this quite simply because this is the origin of the tank. It is the only primary usage of the tank in warfare a game designer (CCP) has to work with in terms of developing their software. "We are thousands of years in the future".......We are actually playing a game that was designed in the 21st century, a game whose designers are limited to the experiences of the 20th and 21st century for their designing utility of 'the tank'. To pretend that understandings and complexities beyond our own can exist in something that we ourselves created in the present is nothing short of ignorance. Who am I to say that you haven't got a tank that's a mobile death star? Well I'm the guy that's here telling you that never happened before. And if you don't learn from history, you're bound to repeat it. Besides, when you break it all down...the game is not very different from WW2 combat. Infantry are the SHOCK troops...the primary roles of the battlefield. Their ability to put down a tank should be higher, if not equally matched, by their ability to be killed by one. Infantry have always been more mobile than tanks, and their ability to flank a tank, surround it, and destroy it should be no different "a thousand years from now" as it is today. And this is all said by someone who prefers to roll with a tank....and will roll with a tank after the update. Difference between me and the QQers is I can rationalize the change. ADAPT OR DIE. Get over it Taka. Then go talk to Nano. You can kiss my ass I do not report to anyone and if you dont like my opinion then go cry about it to nano or whoever The game is designed in this century but the lore and everything else is thousands of years ahead so things could have changed In fact why cant my tank fly instead and shoot lasers at anything that moves or throw monkeys at ppl instead Its called imagination and doesnt have to stick to the rules of the real world since its a game ******* idiot Calm down, kicking and screaming isn't going to get you anywhere on this forum. Plus, you make yourself look crude when you use insults in an attempt to prove your point. Lax
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Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
77
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:48:00 -
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Grezkev wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Grezkev wrote:You're just mad that the game is reflecting a more accurate portrayal of the tank, Taka. It's breaking down your ability to exploit one aspect of it.
You will get over it. You'll have to....or you'll quit the game. That simple. I hear you can still dominate the battlefield like a joke in Battlefield Vietnam with the Soviet attack chopper. Why don't you go play that? Acurate portrayal Okay then if 1 AV person can solo a tank then why dont we just have 1 HS = death and several bullets in the chest = death Make it super realistic like life with no respawn But if we did that it would more or less be COD in space and shields/armor and everything in the game would be absolete and pointless Then again would that be fun making it into a twitch shooter? well it doesnt matter because war isnt fun but it should be accurate like life and reflect war Wrong game ther G this is DUST and not cod Two troops in WW2 with a small rocket could take out a Panzer IV with 1-2 hits. No different from an "AV nade"
On the sides and rear, also the germans developed spaced armor (those large extra flaps on the sides) to negate this.
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Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
819
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:48:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Grezkev wrote: Two troops in WW2 with a small rocket could take out a Panzer IV with 1-2 hits. No different from an "AV nade"
A Challenger tank in Iraq took over 14 RPGs and was fine except for the tracks
Advanced tank versus Militia (or Pre-Militia) AV.
Yeah, that sounds right.
Remember, RPGs were developed shortly after WWII and have only marginally improved since then. They're still great for less-armored vehicles, but modern tanks can usually shrug them off.
The Challenger tank series, on the other hand, was developed for a world in which RPGs were commonplace and cheap. They designed the armor and defensive systems on these modern tanks with RPG-type warheads in mind. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
422
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Calm down, kicking and screaming isn't going to get you anywhere on this forum. Plus, you make yourself look crude when you use insults in an attempt to prove your point. Lax
I am calm
I just find it funny he tried to pull rank since we are in the same alliance
Im waiting to see if im kicked out because i harmed his precious feelings |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
820
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:50:00 -
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slypie11 wrote: I don't know about the panzer, but I've heard a lot about german tanks where american tank shells and bazookas would just bounce off.
You are correct. Our early WWII tanks were designed with WWI in mind. As such, they were underpowered for the much more heavily armored tanks that the Germans were fielding.
Militia AV versus Prototype HAVs, in other words. |
JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
404
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Posted - 2013.05.04 18:53:00 -
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Hi, Welcome to Dust 514. a VIDEO GAME!! not a realistic simulator. Balance > realism. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1371
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:00:00 -
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Okay let me throw my two ISK into the argument here, and btw I'm non military historian and haven't served in the armed forces so my knowledge of the military is mostly confined to having read a couple of books about military stuff. But from what I've read it seems like warfare is built on principles, and though the method and technology used may change those principles don't.
And what grezkev here is trying to say(well this is what I got from his post) is that though the tech maybe be thousands of years more advanced than what we have currently, the same things that applied in WW2 apply now .
And taka, the more I read of your posts the more I feel like face palming. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
423
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:01:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Okay let me throw my two ISK into the argument here, and btw I'm non military historian and haven't served in the armed forces so my knowledge of the military is mostly confined to having read a couple of books about military stuff. But from what I've read it seems like warfare is built on principles, and though the method and technology used may change those principles don't.
And what grezkev here is trying to say(well this is what I got from his post) is that though the tech maybe be thousands of years more advanced than what we have currently, the same things that applied in WW2 apply now .
And taka, the more I read of your posts the more I feel like face palming.
Well go do it
But instead of your palm how about a brick wall |
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