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gbghg
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:00:00 -
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Okay let me throw my two ISK into the argument here, and btw I'm non military historian and haven't served in the armed forces so my knowledge of the military is mostly confined to having read a couple of books about military stuff. But from what I've read it seems like warfare is built on principles, and though the method and technology used may change those principles don't.
And what grezkev here is trying to say(well this is what I got from his post) is that though the tech maybe be thousands of years more advanced than what we have currently, the same things that applied in WW2 apply now .
And taka, the more I read of your posts the more I feel like face palming. |
gbghg
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:04:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:gbghg wrote:Okay let me throw my two ISK into the argument here, and btw I'm non military historian and haven't served in the armed forces so my knowledge of the military is mostly confined to having read a couple of books about military stuff. But from what I've read it seems like warfare is built on principles, and though the method and technology used may change those principles don't.
And what grezkev here is trying to say(well this is what I got from his post) is that though the tech maybe be thousands of years more advanced than what we have currently, the same things that applied in WW2 apply now .
And taka, the more I read of your posts the more I feel like face palming. Well go do it But instead of your palm how about a brick wall
I'm talking to one that's for sure...
And aren't you and grezkev in the same corp, if he really does outrank shouldn't you show at least a little respect, cause if that's how you treat everyone who disagrees with you, I don't see you staying in any corp for long. |
gbghg
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Posted - 2013.05.04 20:13:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Grezkev wrote:slap26 wrote:[quote=Grezkev]
Not surprisingly, the Allies won the war and lost less tanks than anyone...including the Soviet Union who tried to use tanks in a similar way to the Germans.
Where is your source material? Quote:
Soviet Union: Between 96,500 to 100,000 tanks
UK : Around 20,000 tanks
USA: Around 20,000 tanks
Germany: Around 45,000 to 50,000 tanks
Umm... Technically, the Soviet Union was part of the Allies. Not a warm-and-cuddly buddy-buddy part, but officially allied to the US and UK. So, while what I think you meant was correct (US & UK lost less tanks), the exact statement was incorrect. It is also worth noting that without the Soviets zerging the Germans with Militia gear, the US and UK would likely have lost to the German's Proto gear. At the very least, the war would've lasted a lot longer.
Yeah if you look at how the German forces were deployed the difference between those tasked to hold Europe which the allies (aka UK,US,commonwealth countries etc) faced and those the Russians faced off against in the USSR and Eastern Europe is scarily huge. If we'd faced the full might of the German military on the western front things would have gone very differently. |
gbghg
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Posted - 2013.05.04 20:23:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:gbghg wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:gbghg wrote:Okay let me throw my two ISK into the argument here, and btw I'm non military historian and haven't served in the armed forces so my knowledge of the military is mostly confined to having read a couple of books about military stuff. But from what I've read it seems like warfare is built on principles, and though the method and technology used may change those principles don't.
And what grezkev here is trying to say(well this is what I got from his post) is that though the tech maybe be thousands of years more advanced than what we have currently, the same things that applied in WW2 apply now .
And taka, the more I read of your posts the more I feel like face palming. Well go do it But instead of your palm how about a brick wall I'm talking to one that's for sure... And aren't you and grezkev in the same corp, if he really does outrank shouldn't you show at least a little respect, cause if that's how you treat everyone who disagrees with you, I don't see you staying in any corp for long. Why respect someone that hasn't given you reason to respect them?
The fact that he has been given a senior position (I'm assuming here) shows that their is clearly someone in alliance leadership who respects him or values what he can contribute, at the very least taka should have kept any insults or sarcastic language to himself, just because someone hasn't proved themselves to your satisfaction shouldn't mean you should disrespect them. |
gbghg
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:39:00 -
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Grezkev wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:VicBoss wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:You know some historians actually believe that if Rommell were allowed to do what he wanted to Germany could have won the war. The 7th Panzer  Especially in Russia. If he was directing Operation Barbarossa the war could have been much longer, and may have ended much more favorably for the Germans. Perhaps. He might have been able to hit Moscow before winter. If not, though... Russia was (and is) infamous for being a quagmire. Rommel (or any tank force) was extremely dependent on solid supply lines for fuel and ammo. The Russians did a very good job of interrupting those and destroying supply depots rather than allowing the Germans to seize them. Not that they started the war with a lot of supplies.  They also didn't destroy the cities, they sieged them. Another example of an Order by ****** / Not listening to Generals...going wrong.
Yeah Stalingrad was a major mistake. Some of the statistics for what happened their are horrifying. |
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