childish sh!t to be honest.

ill probably gain haters for it but fuq you your mother and whoever else feels anyway about me.
why even play the game if ur going to do nothing? whats so fun about it?
i didnt vote for anything as i hardly even look at any imperfect ei or imp swarm post because to me they are to involved with their ego's for me to give a sh!t about any of them.
to be honest man this is just bs but can we stop it? no will it stop? probly not.
the same way this thread was started is the same way it could be ended. by not playing the game with people who do it. if you see them in the game back out.
otherwise deal with this **** focus on what could fix the game and its errors instead of exploiting them.
with this being said goodnight all and go Fuq yourselves.

Actually we gave feedback on it too, but noone wanted to press for a different option and was content in choosing one of the 5 given because at that point anything was better than daily cap.

After all this thing is temporary until a rollover system is implemented, or did everyone forget that.
Also i totally forgot about this but to everyone who told me to HTFU this is how MMO's work.

/me glares at Cosgar before he enters.

Remember the predecessor to the vote and the outcry that prompted it
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=483247#post483247

So yea in essence Protoman did call it right carebears voted for it by demanding that CCP not cut the Gordian knot.
Yea so for everyone these last few days that wanted to shout me down that the Cap was CCP's brainchild and they would never entertain the idea of removing it since this game is an MMO and MMO is long and ardous please feel free to eat crow.

Can you carebears stop complaining about AFK farming?

Anything that encourages players to not fight, whether it is PC, ducking corp battles, or AFKing in a match needs to be fixed. I don't condemn players for using a option that rewards them for little to know risk, but it doesn't mean it should remain in the game.

Heres the problem with a WP system. It becomes easier to get more WP the more SP you have. So you have a system that increases the gap quite a bit.

The only fix to that would be a scaled system where you get a modifier for your WP based on your SP.

If I have 1 mil SP, and the average SP in the match is 4mil, i get 4X SP for all my WP earned. A player with 8mil would get .5X SP for every WP earned.

Thus, its still based on performance, but skewed so that new players arent left behind because they cant compete.

Cmon ccp if the imps see the light on this one how the hell are you still in the dark?

We've always been against AFK, but while we were burnt out from the game, couldnt find a challenge cause noone wants to fight us in CB, everyone has ducked every challenge ive laid out in threads and we had an easy mechanism to get the maxmimum amount of SP while avoiding the utterly noobtastic players that would often be paired with us on our teams in game and the carebears that whined on the forums when we got decent support and stompled them,

we decided eff it kill blues so to speak

and/or AFK farm while we bullshitted with each other on comms or went off and did RL stuff. Point is we always wanted the passive component gone because we knew it would create AFK and we know how to earn our WP so it wasnt an issue for us. We said as much in the voting thread when it happend despite what we wanted was what CMDR WANG was about to give to us but again the carebears came in and whined their behinds off cause they knew they could never keep up with skilled players.

CCP listened to carebears instead because they felt they needed to cushion the egos of players who simply were terrible at this game, when really they should have turned around to their EVE carebears coming into an FPS and stating to them HTFU.

In this instance we are and have been the hardcore of Dust. We dont want easy, but if you give it to us of course we'll take it, its about getting the most result for least effort(that not lazy thats efficiency).

How much SP do you guys usually get from a typical AFK match?

Interesting. Is that including any boosters or no?

YOU VOTED FOR IT.

You trying to tell us that if there was absolutely no cap at all, players wouldn't be AFK farming? LOL

Give me a break. If we voted on a infinite cap, instead of players AFKing for the first 1-3 days after weekly cap reset, they would be doing it 7 days a week, 365 days a year.

At which point, CCP would decide that passive SP 100% of the time would be the best choice. And all your worst nightmares would come true

CCP originally proposed an uncapped system where 1 WP = 1 SP. SP would have been completely performance based. Meaning players would have been forced to play well in order to actually be rewarded in terms of SP. However though the carebears began to cry that this would create a "gap" and was somehow "unfair" to them.

The community voted for AFK farming after being warned that this very problem would have developed as a result of the current SP system we have now.

CCP stealth-added the passive component of match sp rewards all on their own. The more i think about it the more i'm sure this was never part of the conversation in the sp cap threadnought, and it was never brought up by CCP before the changes were made. It had absolutely nothing to do with the vote. If they had presented their misguided plans for passive match sp to the community we would have squashed it pronto.

But for the conversation we're having here the punchline is passive sp rewards from matches has gotta go.

CCP originally proposed an uncapped system where 1 WP = 1 SP. SP would have been completely performance based. Meaning players would have been forced to play well in order to actually be rewarded in terms of SP. However though the carebears began to cry that this would create a "gap" and was somehow "unfair" to them.

The community voted for AFK farming after being warned that this very problem would have developed as a result of the current SP system we have now.

CCP originally proposed an uncapped system where 1 WP = 1 SP. SP would have been completely performance based. Meaning players would have been forced to play well in order to actually be rewarded in terms of SP. However though the carebears began to cry that this would create a "gap" and was somehow "unfair" to them.

The community voted for AFK farming after being warned that this very problem would have developed as a result of the current SP system we have now.

CCP originally proposed an uncapped system where 1 WP = 1 SP. SP would have been completely performance based. Meaning players would have been forced to play well in order to actually be rewarded in terms of SP. However though the carebears began to cry that this would create a "gap" and was somehow "unfair" to them.

YOU VOTED FOR IT.

NO your dilabarity ******* up the game for the rest of us. U guys were afking long before the voted change. Your simpley knowningly exploting a system which is in effect cheating no window dressing can change that. I simpley hope the afkers get punished for it

Again, douches like the OP, believe that we should have no cap, and some of them think we should have no SP/min awarded, instead we should get SP based on WP alone. The problem with this is that is punishes new players. So, these malcontents, believe that their AFKing is justified because of the way SP is handed out, i.e. primarily by time in game.