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Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 495	Posted - 2013.05.02 19:18:00 - [1] - Quote Aighun wrote: OP is confuse. Carebears are those players that never leave the safety of the MCC. Also, I don't think we voted on how SP per match was awarded. Only on how SP rewards after cap would be rewarded. Here I could be confused but AFK farming would still be possible no matter what option we had voted for. In the one vote we had here on the forums. +1 but you deserve more, Aighun. Great analysis, great response. It was CCP's inclusion, unvoted for(and perhaps unasked for), of passive sp and their respective mechanics that allows afk farming.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 495	Posted - 2013.05.03 04:51:00 - [2] - Quote Vets forgive me, this is for the benefit of the new peeps. Everybody keep in mind that we're talking about 2 separate things here: passive skilling in matches and the skillpoint cap. CCP stealth-added the passive component of match sp rewards all on their own. The more i think about it the more i'm sure this was never part of the conversation in the sp cap threadnought, and it was never brought up by CCP before the changes were made. It had absolutely nothing to do with the vote. If they had presented their misguided plans for passive match sp to the community we would have squashed it pronto. The threadnought was about how to balance playstyles, no-life grinders vs. peeps with RL commitments. CCP still hasn't addressed this because the vote was for a temporary stop-gap sp mechanism, which is where we got our soft cap from. The best proposal in the entire thread for a permanent sp reward/cap mechanism came from Rasatsu. His approach is in all likelihood the optimal solution for balancing playstyles while still maintaining a cap. Rasatsu's post: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=433498#post433498 My argument in favor of: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=435873#post435873 But for the conversation we're having here the punchline is passive sp rewards from matches has gotta go.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 496	Posted - 2013.05.03 13:06:00 - [3] - Quote Protoman Is God wrote: DJINN leukoplast wrote: Protoman Is God wrote: YOU VOTED FOR IT. You trying to tell us that if there was absolutely no cap at all, players wouldn't be AFK farming? LOL Give me a break. If we voted on a infinite cap, instead of players AFKing for the first 1-3 days after weekly cap reset, they would be doing it 7 days a week, 365 days a year. At which point, CCP would decide that passive SP 100% of the time would be the best choice. And all your worst nightmares would come true CCP originally proposed an uncapped system where 1 WP = 1 SP. SP would have been completely performance based. Meaning players would have been forced to play well in order to actually be rewarded in terms of SP. However though the carebears began to cry that this would create a "gap" and was somehow "unfair" to them. The community voted for AFK farming after being warned that this very problem would have developed as a result of the current SP system we have now. I've underlined your bait-and-switch. You want no cap but are trying to sell the community on an anti-AFK platform. Obvious is obvious bro. The community rejected a capless sp system. The community would have regected a passive AFK-farmable system if that had been on the table. But it wasn't on the table, CCP added it without telegraphing their intentions to the community. What you're doing here is engaging in revisionist history and trying to swindle the community into supporting your no-cap agenda. There is no logical connection between a cap and passive sp rewards for matches, one does not require or imply the other. The good thing that can come out of the MCCAFK protest is the removal of passive sp(or an algorithm that indexes passive sp to active sp) match rewards. The awful thing that could come out of the MCCAFK protest is the mis-guided removal of the sp cap.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 497	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:35:00 - [4] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Sooo why are we mad about people AFKing? Personally speaking, i have no problem with AFKing and i'm thinking of it as a community service that wiil hopefully get rid of a bad mechanic. And when that happens all the peeps who faced the hatred on the forums will be owed a thank you by the community. What i do have is a problem with is the destructive kittenpoop your crew is engaging in to get the cap removed. It would destroy the game beyond a doubt. What the hell's your agenda anyway?

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