But.. there is no handheld shield transporter :(

Do you know how long it takes to solo a 1.5mil+ tank with swarms? Even if the swarms are advanced or proto its long enough for a sniper to get a free kill or lead a bunch of red dots to you.

What i think the problem is with most tankers when they die, they think they were being shot at by one dude running all militia when its probably a blaster emplacement, another tank and at the right time the militia swarm, guy fired at the right moment and stole the kill.

Do you know how long it takes to solo a 1.5mil+ tank with swarms? Even if the swarms are advanced or proto its long enough for a sniper to get a free kill or lead a bunch of red dots to you.

What i think the problem is with most tankers when they die, they think they were being shot at by one dude running all militia when its probably a blaster emplacement, another tank and at the right time the militia swarm, guy fired at the right moment and stole the kill.

(over 8,000 EHP with reppers and resistance modules running)

I can get over 7000 EHP without any active modules running. On a Sica. For less than 300,000 ISK. Not sure what you're doing wrong.

I'm going tanks I feel, sure their weaker but if they dish out more pain I simply have to go beserker I guess and hope I kill you all before you can fire AV at me

Or I just one shot you first, woohoo.

Fairly confident it won't be that easy..unless you was using a rail tank...

I don't drive tanks so forgive my ignorance. I like the tanks being nerfed a small amount, they need to be more dependant on the team and not just a cadaver plow. Tank drivers should need the team and not be a win button. Tanks should be hard to kill because they are tanks but they also should need support from the team to help them be a win button.

Thats just stacking extenders

If I was just stacking extenders, I'd be paying a little over 300,000 ISK and I'd have more than 8000 EHP.

You complained about having to use teamwork to kill a HAV so they got nerfed heavily, now you can solo tanks you still complain that its too hard

You reap what you sow

Wow. You need to reread the thread. You're attacking the wrong guy there, bud.

Sadly bad tankers make people spec into AV if I see someone driving around badly in a HAV I feel compelled to put it down so I created a AV suit (adv swarms only.) People who badly fit tanks or just sit in the open expeciting to survive without moving encourages people to go after HAV's and getting 150+ points makes me go after good HAV's as well.

For example the other day I played a game on manus peak a guy called in a AUR tank and sat in the open trying to blaster everyone I changed to my swarms and blew it in 3 shots I was very surprised usually it takes more. Sure enough he is soon back in the same spot doing the same thing so I killed him again. I was near C by the way so I decided to go hack it I arrived at C to find the tanker sat in the open so I killed him and a few seconds later his tank arrived so I hacked it and got in. Now I figured out why he was so bad in his tank it had low shields and armour and his mods were militia tracking enhancers, heat sinks and a LIGHT armour rep.

So while driving his HAV around waiting for someone to pop it I spot and enemy HAV aproaching and what do you know same guy but this time he is using a RG, so I close the distance and take out all of his shields and most of his armour and my stolen HAV pops but before it did I jumped out and swarm'd him finishing him off. So for this guy 1 battle = 4 HAV's deployed 4 destroyed and 1 of those he destroyed himself.

Its people who do things like this that inspired me to spec AV and the genuine easyness of pop up lock fire and scuttle makes it a no brainer, which is why I think high damage low HP tanks should be an option but not the ONLY option it just means allot more redline RG snipers who will complain when they get one shotted by some dude with a FG and good aim. And lost of new players trying out HAV's and complaining that they last all of 30seconds in a firefight.

IMO tanks should have glass cannon and high hp lower damage variations because they are each others counter and both have drawbacks which would hopefully eliminate the HAV's are OP threads and the influx of newberrys making bad tanks then complaining AV is OP.

TL:DR Just Medic waffling.

Nailed it with an un-biased opinion.

Yes we want high damage low HP tanks, but on the flip side we need low damage high HP tanks. Not both.

You mean I made a valid point? Good lord there is a first for everything thank you I am screen capping this lol.

Just,, shut up dude. Proto swarms deal 3228 damage wothuot hardners, one volley. What the heck are you talking about?
Is there a nerf to swarm launcher that I did not noticed whilst 3 months of tank gameplay? And swarm guys are not carrying AV nades at all.

the tank driver tears are absurd.

a single player can only kill a HAV with swarms in the following scenarios:
-the swarm user has alot more SP than the tank driver and the driver does not react properly
-the tank driver has a bad fit
-the tank driver is just bad an has no awareness

also have you ever tried to kill a dedicated shield tanked HAV with proto swarms? no chance unless the driver is terrible.

voila the typical tank driver, get hit by swarms, stand still in the wide open and cries, does not repair and dont use hardeners... and then wonders he blows up. how about using cover? move away? also you cannot lock on and throw AV nades at the same time. btw kill the swarm user the missiles disappear.

PS: I can two shot your tank with my rail tank from accross the map and no repair and hardening will help you against this. problem?

Do you know how long it takes to solo a 1.5mil+ tank with swarms? Even if the swarms are advanced or proto its long enough for a sniper to get a free kill or lead a bunch of red dots to you.

What i think the problem is with most tankers when they die, they think they were being shot at by one dude running all militia when its probably a blaster emplacement, another tank and at the right time the militia swarm, guy fired at the right moment and stole the kill.

Sadly bad tankers make people spec into AV if I see someone driving around badly in a HAV I feel compelled to put it down so I created a AV suit (adv swarms only.) People who badly fit tanks or just sit in the open expeciting to survive without moving encourages people to go after HAV's and getting 150+ points makes me go after good HAV's as well.

For example the other day I played a game on manus peak a guy called in a AUR tank and sat in the open trying to blaster everyone I changed to my swarms and blew it in 3 shots I was very surprised usually it takes more. Sure enough he is soon back in the same spot doing the same thing so I killed him again. I was near C by the way so I decided to go hack it I arrived at C to find the tanker sat in the open so I killed him and a few seconds later his tank arrived so I hacked it and got in. Now I figured out why he was so bad in his tank it had low shields and armour and his mods were militia tracking enhancers, heat sinks and a LIGHT armour rep.

So while driving his HAV around waiting for someone to pop it I spot and enemy HAV aproaching and what do you know same guy but this time he is using a RG, so I close the distance and take out all of his shields and most of his armour and my stolen HAV pops but before it did I jumped out and swarm'd him finishing him off. So for this guy 1 battle = 4 HAV's deployed 4 destroyed and 1 of those he destroyed himself.

Its people who do things like this that inspired me to spec AV and the genuine easyness of pop up lock fire and scuttle makes it a no brainer, which is why I think high damage low HP tanks should be an option but not the ONLY option it just means allot more redline RG snipers who will complain when they get one shotted by some dude with a FG and good aim. And lost of new players trying out HAV's and complaining that they last all of 30seconds in a firefight.

IMO tanks should have glass cannon and high hp lower damage variations because they are each others counter and both have drawbacks which would hopefully eliminate the HAV's are OP threads and the influx of newberrys making bad tanks then complaining AV is OP.

TL:DR Just Medic waffling.

ccp just want us all to become rail snipers meh ...give them more exp suits for me to one shot from miles away (increased zoom fidelity gunna be funny )