What if Tanks were super cheap would you still ***** about the stats?

I agree tanks need a slight buff but there's a fine line CCP needs to walk, buff tanks to much and you turn them into unstoppable killing machines and if you nerf or keep the same you see redline railgun pussies (glorified sniper).

Same goes for AV, if you nerf too far then player won't see the point wasting isk on useless AV.

I personally see tanks as a disposable asset, i roll in a sica with blaster, if it dies it dies, it served its purpose by forcing the opposing to spawn AV, not only that i tend to assist infantry with assaulting letters so any AV is quickly taking out.

the tank driver tears are absurd.

a single player can only kill a HAV with swarms in the following scenarios:
-the swarm user has alot more SP than the tank driver and the driver does not react properly
-the tank driver has a bad fit
-the tank driver is just bad an has no awareness

also have you ever tried to kill a dedicated shield tanked HAV with proto swarms? no chance unless the driver is terrible.

Just,, shut up dude. Proto swarms deal 3228 damage wothuot hardners, one volley. What the heck are you talking about?
Is there a nerf to swarm launcher that I did not noticed whilst 3 months of tank gameplay? And swarm guys are not carrying AV nades at all.

voila the typical tank driver, get hit by swarms, stand still in the wide open and cries, does not repair and dont use hardeners... and then wonders he blows up. how about using cover? move away? also you cannot lock on and throw AV nades at the same time. btw kill the swarm user the missiles disappear.

Missiles still hit after user dies.

voila the typical tank driver, get hit by swarms, stand still in the wide open and cries, does not repair and dont use hardeners... and then wonders he blows up. how about using cover? move away? also you cannot lock on and throw AV nades at the same time. btw kill the swarm user the missiles disappear.

my experience say something else. just yesterday I got headshot by sniper right after I fired my swarmies against an LAV, missiles vanish.

the tank driver tears are absurd.

a single player can only kill a HAV with swarms in the following scenarios:
-the swarm user has alot more SP than the tank driver and the driver does not react properly
-the tank driver has a bad fit
-the tank driver is just bad an has no awareness

also have you ever tried to kill a dedicated shield tanked HAV with proto swarms? no chance unless the driver is terrible.

I think the student needs to stop and revisit his Uni for proper lectures in AV v Tanks

no tanker can outtank that if they're caught in the open.

Plus i also AV aswell as tank so i know both sides of the coin extremely well so that BS about missiles dissapear after you are killed is straight BS

Swarms against shield?

thanks for confirming my post that you dont want to adapt and go rambo. dont go out in the open and profit? tanks are not meant to be unstoppable killing machines. the damage AV can put out is maybe slightly too harsh and I expect it to be changed but if you aware and dont go rambo you can still hold your ground well even with the current numbers.

actually, if you get killed and receive enough damage to not bleed out but instead just die and go to spawn screen missiles vanish


not everyone has skilled up into forge guns and you use what you have.

and still no one answered to this: not only AV is strong against tanks, other tanks are too. rails two shots tanks accross the map, no chance to react actually, I would be more concerned about rails than AV weaponry.

We already know rails are bad, other threads confirm this, but CCP are making our Sagaris/Surya into a Falchion/Otherbadarmortank, that is very effective at being useless in CQC and good at sitting on the redline with a proto rail.

so in short nothing changes and rail sniping is still possible ? trolltastic

Well if you didnt cry about everything and wanting to solo tanks we wouldnt be up in the mountains like goats

You complained about having to use teamwork to kill a HAV so they got nerfed heavily, now you can solo tanks you still complain that its too hard

You reap what you sow

and still no one answered to this: not only AV is strong against tanks, other tanks are too. rails two shots tanks accross the map, no chance to react actually, I would be more concerned about rails than AV weaponry.

rails also one shot lavs and dropships accross the map too and the splash damage or rails can take away alot of health from a dropsuit. if you practise for a few matches and get the hang of the flight time then it is actually very easy to hit infantry at long ranges. as long this possible there is no excuse about the current status of AV weaponry.

so in short nothing changes and rail sniping is still possible ? trollstastic, I feel bad for tank drivers

people should wait for the build to come out before passing judgment. No one knows the full details of what's to come. be patient.

I run as Logi a lot on multiple characters, and more often offer repairs than revives (Injectors hate me). One of my Logi alts also runs tanks. I will be investing in tanks again, and I will be investing into making my Logis more "make the tank not die" focused for people like you. Friendly tanks WILL be kept alive if they're willing to head into the fray.