Soon.

(note lack of Gäó)

Soon.

(note lack of Gäó)

Soon.

(note lack of Gäó)

Soon.

(note lack of Gäó)

No offense to CCP, but I do not see much difference in the two soons, atleast not from this side. But then again its better to be vague and not have threads like this pop up. Everyone should relax though, or try to relax.

Soon is only acceptable for fanbois.

Eterne said on Monday today or tomorrow.

Get us answers.

The CPM already has IWS to be the CCP apologist. We don't need another.

If all you are going to do is cheerlead, we can get you the skirt and pompoms.

She said, " note lack of Gäó "

Soon is not an answer.

What part of that was not clear?

If you allow CCP to feed you *****, don't complain about the taste.

I won't eat that, so I won't let them try to serve it.

Stubby, CCP Eterne said on Monday that it would be ready today or tomorrow.

It is now Wednesday, so there goes that.

You can believe whatever you like, I hold CCP at what they say.

Jenza can either rep us and get is real answers or suck the CCP long one.

I will judge her based on how she acts. If she helps CCP heap manure on the community, then she is worthless as a CPM.

Don't confuse me with the simpletons who can be misled by false promises.

If CCP cannot produce what they promise, the CPM needs to hold them to account. Otherwise, why even have them?

A dev can tell us soon, we don't need another in the ****** chorus.

Do you have a container for your tears? I need more fuel for the dropship.

In all seriousness, i cannot tell you when it will be out without permission from CCP. We can not tell you ANYTHING that CCP tells us without permission.

Do you have a container for your tears? I need more fuel for the dropship.

In all seriousness, i cannot tell you when it will be out without permission from CCP. We can not tell you ANYTHING that CCP tells us without permission.

He has every right to go on that rant, with lazy CPM, even lazier devs. I think we're all losing patience now, and anyone who isn't, is putting it on to stay on your 'Good' side.

Next time, instead of saying Soon, and instead of being a complete ass about it, give us the reasonable answer you just gave us.

Anyway, we never asked when it would be out, we asked you to get CCP to GET it out.

Do you have a container for your tears? I need more fuel for the dropship.

In all seriousness, i cannot tell you when it will be out without permission from CCP. We can not tell you ANYTHING that CCP tells us without permission.

well...that escalated quickly

Call a trick a trick.

You can never turn a hoe into a housewife.

christ, look at this guy?

I spent time recording footage, getting things together and may other **** like answering questions and you call me lazy and attack me and my corp?

an attack to laughable all i will mention is stones and glass houses.

Want me to not be an ass? dont be a winy little *****.

You can be an ass all you like.

But if you don't work for the community, expect me to call you out for being a hoe for CCP.

Don't like being called a prostitute, then don't prostitute yourself.

Simple really.

Wow.... Zion has fell really far.

Granted this wont seem nearly as bad if Jenza is a guy.

Well that would have required some plastic surgery at most.

I don't speak for Zion, I speak only for myself.

He has every right to go on that rant, with lazy CPM, even lazier devs. I think we're all losing patience now, and anyone who isn't, is putting it on to stay on your 'Good' side.

Next time, instead of saying Soon, and instead of being a complete ass about it, give us the reasonable answer you just gave us.

Anyway, we never asked when it would be out, we asked you to get CCP to GET it out.

I just want my Dev Blog!

Can't we all just get along.

There's like 5 days until the new build, I think people really need to chill now.

Clearly you havnt been keeping track of everything i have been doing recently.

Was bringing my capture card to iceland and making a video showing off uprising required of CPM?
No.

Was making a threadnaught answering as many questions about uprising as i could required of CPM?
No.

Was organising another 24 hour charity event and donating one of the few prizes i got left from the tourney, the poster which i ran round Harpa collecting signatures for the event required for CPM?
No.


I did all this stuff because i wanted to help the community, not because i had to. We are also doing many things behind the scenes that cant be talked about right now, which IS required of the CPM which i cant go into right now.

if you think you can do a better job, then by all means rise up, otherwise dont attack us or me for something that you know nothing about.

I don't speak for Zion, I speak only for myself.

As a man with experience dealing with this I can tell you two things:

A) If you don't want to speak for your corp post on an alt (This is what I was told from ZionTCD and ignored it myself)
B) If you do post on your corp toon then you do indeed represent even a small portion of your corp - whether you mean to or not and must behave rationally and appropriately in public (Was also told this by ZionTCD, cept for the representing small group part - I was definitely a one man army ;D)

And on Jenza - She's doing fine. That 'Soon' comment gave me all the info I needed from her - it's not her fault devs are on vacation as often as they work.

I agree it's the CCM job to let them know our concerns not to rage at them nothing gets resolved that way. However it is bad customer relations if you promise something then dont deliver giving additional promises and not fullflling them is very bad form in customer relations to. If you cant make a deadline you should let your customers know why (**** happens) and try to give an estemate for when its going to be done.

Maybe the CCM should inform CCP that they should perform best Customer Care pracitces and that way the community will not be so hot when "promises are broken".

What a bunch of self-righteous crybabies. Oh, the world owes you something... shut up!

Cleaned up the thread a bit.

Please avoid using offensive language towards each other. This is not the appropriate place to do so.

Thanks

It has seriously got to suck at CCP right now.

Consider the following:

Fanfest has just finished. The prep work that goes into something like that is enormous, and it's almost always an all hands thing. Maybe there was a core group of devs who were supposed to be exempt from all that, but you can bet that 12 hours prior to go-time, the pre-release uprising build was glitchy, or someone needed visuals for their presentation, or six people have emails into the team to verify that what they're saying in the presentations is actually true.

Then there's the pub-crawl, in which players get devs drunk in order to spill restricted info about the game (and to thank them for it of course, but it's the first part that's got the devs worried).

So now fanfest is over, and the devs are exhausted, the managers are exhausted. Everything needs to be cleaned up and put back in storage and they're short-handed so you've got to help with that. Plus, the tournament added a pack of bugs and tweaks to the devs' to-do list.

And here we are, with five days to go to a "do not miss or you'll wish we fired you" release date. Devs aren't leaving their desks. The lucky ones have a sleeping bag in their cubicles, and the rest are sleeping in their seats. QA is working off-shift hours to maximize testing and fixing time, and every time devs fix something, something else seems to break.

And to top it all off, the devs have a SECOND release date, equally "Can not miss", that is EIGHT DAYS later. So as soon as a bug is fixed and tucked back into the Uprising release, the devs are frantically working on the End-of-Beta release, so that as soon as Uprising goes out, the next release can go into QA.

And one of these guys is supposed to write a dev blog in his spare time.

My hat's off the dev team. The next case of Red Bull is on me, and the Dev blog can come after the next time you sleep.

False.

CCP employees are wizards who do not adhere to the laws of physics.

Your argument is invalid.

This a weird way to look at it. We aren't the ones that brought it up. They stated they'd release the info on numerous occasions and failed to do so. I'm complaining, not whining. I whine about lasers.

I'm not pointing at anyone in particular (I'm too lazy to go look) but it's one thing to ask for it and other to carp at the CPMs and CCP. Seriously, it's a few days before release, so you really think they aren't burning the midnight oil trying to kill off remaining bugs, do testing, put together a crapload of stuff we aren't aware of right now?

I'm in the software field, unfortunately not making games as I'd love to do that for a living, so I'd imagine that whatever is going on it isn't laziness.

Come here and tell us that they aren't going to get it released in time. Communication goes along way.

Maybe they don't feel the need to satisfy the curiosity of ever whiny numnuts that comes along... say about 200 times a day? I mean, haven you read these forums lately?

Maybe they don't feel the need to satisfy the curiosity of ever whiny numnuts that comes along... say about 200 times a day? I mean, haven you read these forums lately?

So people complaining about CCP's failure to deliver is the legitimisation of their lack of communication?

If this is appropriate why listen to anything CCP says? When we don't get it we can't complain because complaining means we don't deserve it.

I don't know... would you rather they were busy working on things or meticulously searching through every thread for a whiny entitled brat to provide answers to.

We deserve this, we deserve that... they should this, they should that. It's a business... holding our hands is not in the job description.

I don't know... would you rather they were busy working on things or meticulously searching through every thread for a whiny entitled brat to provide answers to.

We deserve this, we deserve that... they should this, they should that. It's a business... holding our hands is not in the job description.

Edit: It's not the asking that I'm carping about. At the same time, we'll find out when we find out. Keep your pants on.

Etherne confirmed that we are getting one blog tomorrow and another on Saturday.

Cool, where was that mentioned?

<[CCP]Eterne:#DUST514> Anyway, Skill Respec blog goes out on Saturday. We're getting other blogs out tomorrow.