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Kiro Justice
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:42:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Buster Friently wrote:It's funny you say this, because CCP has already pointed out that they are searching for an appropriate fix for AFKing. I wouldn't call that working as intended Correction. CCP is working on the SP allocation system so that it benefits both the noobs and the veterans and not the AFK mechanism. You see other than having a time based SP system like Eve (which everyone wil cry about);- CCP is in a catch 22 system. If they give more SP based on Kills or WPs;- the vets will rule. If they give SP based on time spent in game;- the vets will AFK. Its gonna be hard to find the balance but as long as SP is based on time spent in a game;- AFKers are here to stay. Doink!
I understand, but...If you just want to AFK, why even play Dust? I don't get the purpose behind it, if not to play.
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Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
22
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:43:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: you ranted all that to end it with rage and your peen in a mans mouth?-+? your life i aint judging - though you seem to love to judge others yourself lol
Oh I'm sorry my bad. I got you mixed up with my ex. She's a nagging *****. you two must have a lot in commom. i bet you two just yell at eachother all day lol now stop feeding ppl your tears and comparing me with your version of jenza lol
Hell yeah I do! As I said when I get fired up, I either yell or make beautiful love. Sometimes both at the same time. Speaking of which, did you grow ******* hair yet? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:46:00 -
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Kiro Justice wrote: I understand, but...If you just want to AFK, why even play Dust? I don't get the purpose behind it, if not to play.
Its quite simple actually;- CCP does not have a catch up mechanism. So say if I want to take a break for a week and come back in a week, I have lost about 500K SP. In the world of competitive gaming every SP counts.
Now if CCP did have a catch up mechanism there wouldn't be any reason to farm SP.
Hope that clears up the air!
Edit: Its CCP's fault that this game is more of a job to grind SP than fun |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2719
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:48:00 -
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I don't feel entitled to things I didn't earn, so when I don't feel like playing, I lose SP. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
262
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:49:00 -
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YA AFK some more 3x sp thanks CCP for making it more rewarding and easier. that put me near the 10 mil sp mark.. can't wait and I hope once they takedown the 3x sp they reset the weekly cap so I can get another 290k sp. lets go AFK wagon, someone bring the cookies I got the drinks for the AFK party up in the MCC. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2041
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:51:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: you ranted all that to end it with rage and your peen in a mans mouth?-+? your life i aint judging - though you seem to love to judge others yourself lol
Oh I'm sorry my bad. I got you mixed up with my ex. She's a nagging *****. you two must have a lot in commom. i bet you two just yell at eachother all day lol now stop feeding ppl your tears and comparing me with your version of jenza lol Hell yeah I do! As I said when I get fired up, I either yell or make beautiful love. Sometimes both at the same time. Speaking of which, did you grow ******* hair yet? your a classic. You start with a huge post that said only 1 thing - you get mildly trolled and then bring in sex girls and hair with lots of cussing. is it wrong to love you? Dont worry i wont be like your apperantly bad g/fs ill love you no matter how dumb you look ^^ |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
90
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:52:00 -
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You'd think CCP would put in a "percentage time at risk" concept. If you are out of harms way for half the time the battle is raging then you get a maximum of 50% of your share of the payout -- the rest being distributed among those with >95% time in.
I really don't get the mindset though.
I don't care if I'm already capped out for the week -- I'll fight tooth and nail every game even if it's only for the 1.5K from Friday until the next cap refresh. It's not that I'm good or anything but I actually LIKE to play like I mean it. I'm not here for the stats. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
22
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:58:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: you ranted all that to end it with rage and your peen in a mans mouth?-+? your life i aint judging - though you seem to love to judge others yourself lol
Oh I'm sorry my bad. I got you mixed up with my ex. She's a nagging *****. you two must have a lot in commom. i bet you two just yell at eachother all day lol now stop feeding ppl your tears and comparing me with your version of jenza lol Hell yeah I do! As I said when I get fired up, I either yell or make beautiful love. Sometimes both at the same time. Speaking of which, did you grow ******* hair yet? your a classic. You start with a huge post that said only 1 thing - you get mildly trolled and then bring in sex girls and hair with lots of cussing. is it wrong to love you? Dont worry i wont be like your apperantly bad g/fs ill love you no matter how dumb you look ^^
Mildly trolled? I'm pissed man! But I tell you what, man as you seem to like my style. You join my channel Ric Barlom Talks and we'll have a little Dust talk show. You can be the comedy relief. BTW do you need helium to sound like you do or is that all natural? |
Kiro Justice
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
25
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:59:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Kiro Justice wrote: I understand, but...If you just want to AFK, why even play Dust? I don't get the purpose behind it, if not to play.
Its quite simple actually;- CCP does not have a catch up mechanism. So say if I want to take a break for a week and come back in a week, I have lost about 500K SP. In the world of competitive gaming every SP counts. Now if CCP did have a catch up mechanism there wouldn't be any reason to farm SP. Hope that clears up the air! Edit: Its CCP's fault that this game is more of a job to grind SP than fun
I see. Well, not that your choice really bothers me but if it's not fun to "Grind" there are plenty of games where that's not necessary. FW and PC are coming out soon so it really doesn't matter but...I was just wondering why stay if the game is no fun? Since Grinding SP is ALL the game is at this point. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1156
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:02:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Kiro Justice wrote: I understand, but...If you just want to AFK, why even play Dust? I don't get the purpose behind it, if not to play.
Its quite simple actually;- CCP does not have a catch up mechanism. So say if I want to take a break for a week and come back in a week, I have lost about 500K SP. In the world of competitive gaming every SP counts. Now if CCP did have a catch up mechanism there wouldn't be any reason to farm SP. Hope that clears up the air! Edit: Its CCP's fault that this game is more of a job to grind SP than fun Liar, if we had a rollover system you'd probably not play and then comeback and AFK whenever you felt like it |
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Chojine Dentetsu
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
10
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:03:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:You know guys, I was told by the dudes that there's a strange phenomenon going on here in the forums and one of them suggested that I take a look and see what I can do about it. What I'm of course talking about here is the age old "lazy piece of **** syndrome" like I tend to call it. Now the people who know me, also know that I'm dealing with these type of punks on a weekly basis in my personal life so I guess you could say that I've got some experience on the subject. That being said I rarely reply to these type of threads cause you know me: I don't give a ****! This time it's a little bit different though and with this post I'm gonna perform some straight talk, and here's how I'm going to lay it down for you guys. First I'm going through some of the reasons that make this whole thing curious, then I'm gonna delve a little deeper and give these guys some life advices. And guys remember that this is not a naming and shaming type of thing and I don't try to be too hard on you guys.
Now, guys, we've seen a lot of lazy fucks here on Dust 514 so that's nothing new but there's a key difference here with this new breed of lazy fucks. Let me give you an example: You guys remember when Mr. Spero from Imperfects was caught with his virtual pants down AFK farming in that MCC, guys? Well like any other aspiring CPM member he tried to weasel out of it, no big deal guys. That's a normal reaction guys. Not blaming Spero or anything. There's a chance the dude has turned over a new leaf and stuff like that. The point here is that the guy was ashamed of what he had done and he did what he had to do!
So that brings me to the current situation and the new breed of AFK farmers: The EoN alliance. Now let me be perfectly fair here and note that they probably have a small percentage of members who are stand up guys, so I do apologise to those few good dudes. As I said this is not a naming and shaming type of statement, boys and girls. Anyways it ends up that the EoN dudes have come up with this gimmick where they are proud of being lazy fucks! Man, would I love to hear the background of these guys! Everyone who knows me, know that I've been born and raised in a culture that values hard work, honesty and earning your own keep. Well EoN let me send a message to you guys right now: You haven't earned **** in my books!
So I tell you what, guys. You go read some Hemingway, then you take your pencil necks out of your apartment, come over and mow my lawn. I'll give you guys a couple of bucks so you can go buy yourself a few ice cream sandwiches. And that's everything I have to say about this subject, boys and girls.
Your retort to the Dust community started strong, and tapered off into an ironic mirror image of the trolling attitude you purport to stand against.
Ranting to an online community will not cause them to have an epiphany and proselytize over night.
Also, recommending literature to a group of people as diverse as this community, in a manner that is condescending, is a bad move, just because I have read The Divine Comedy in its entirety does not instantly raise my IQ or social standing (I have actually read it - final line reads "And we stepped forth, and re beheld the stars").
You should remain nuanced when judging others actions, lest you be judged.
Ultimately, though, people can and will do what they want, you just have to go with the flow and accept it.
Quid pro quo.
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2043
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:03:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:
Mildly trolled? I'm pissed man! But I tell you what, man as you seem to like my style. You join my channel Ric Barlom Talks and we'll have a little Dust talk show. You can be the comedy relief. BTW do you need helium to sound like you do or is that all natural?
so all it takes is saying your full of tears - gotcha. Ill try to remember you have the emotionality of 3 y/o whose truck rolled out of his reach and crys for it lol
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Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:06:00 -
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Kiro Justice wrote:
I see. Well, not that your choice really bothers me but if it's not fun to "Grind" there are plenty of games where that's not necessary. FW and PC are coming out soon so it really doesn't matter but...I was just wondering why stay if the game is no fun? Since Grinding SP is ALL the game is at this point.
Dust has a lot of potential to be a real cutting edge game. I want to keep playing this game but at the same time I don't want to go crazy with the bugs and fall behind the SP curve. Games are not fun when you rage.
I have hope that this game will be much better one day and that's why I stick around. While this may make the chickenshit clowns in douche EX mad, but honestly I couldn't give a **** about them.
My methods are unorthodoxed but it does get results |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2719
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:08:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:My methods are unorthodoxed but it does get results
Your methods aren't unorthodox, they're abusive to the current system. Fortunately for you and your kind, CCP seems to favor people not playing their game.
Here's hoping things get shaken up with Uprising
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1156
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:11:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Kiro Justice wrote:
I see. Well, not that your choice really bothers me but if it's not fun to "Grind" there are plenty of games where that's not necessary. FW and PC are coming out soon so it really doesn't matter but...I was just wondering why stay if the game is no fun? Since Grinding SP is ALL the game is at this point.
Dust has a lot of potential to be a real cutting edge game. I want to keep playing this game but at the same time I don't want to go crazy with the bugs and fall behind the SP curve. Games are not fun when you rage. I have hope that this game will be much better one day and that's why I stick around. While this may make the chickenshit clowns in douche EX mad, but honestly I couldn't give a **** about them. My methods are unorthodoxed but it does get results No one cares if you AFK, aside from some carebears, but there's no reason to constantly make stupid and pointless threads about this. You AFK, I AFK, CCP knows we AFK, cool story bro. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2043
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:11:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Kiro Justice wrote:
I see. Well, not that your choice really bothers me but if it's not fun to "Grind" there are plenty of games where that's not necessary. FW and PC are coming out soon so it really doesn't matter but...I was just wondering why stay if the game is no fun? Since Grinding SP is ALL the game is at this point.
Dust has a lot of potential to be a real cutting edge game. I want to keep playing this game but at the same time I don't want to go crazy with the bugs and fall behind the SP curve. Games are not fun when you rage. I have hope that this game will be much better one day and that's why I stick around. While this may make the chickenshit clowns in douche EX mad, but honestly I couldn't give a **** about them. My methods are unorthodoxed but it does get results the only thing i can say against you SA is your trying to convert ppl in beleiving this is all fine and get them together to make afking really painful for casuals.
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Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
22
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:12:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:
Mildly trolled? I'm pissed man! But I tell you what, man as you seem to like my style. You join my channel Ric Barlom Talks and we'll have a little Dust talk show. You can be the comedy relief. BTW do you need helium to sound like you do or is that all natural?
so all it takes is saying your full of tears - gotcha. Ill try to remember you have the emotionality of 3 y/o whose truck rolled out of his reach and crys for it lol
You're still going on about the tears, aren't ya? No, seriously bro, I apologise. Didn't mean to bully your ass. Just get yourself a job and start earning your SP in game too and we're settled. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
262
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:14:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Kiro Justice wrote:
I see. Well, not that your choice really bothers me but if it's not fun to "Grind" there are plenty of games where that's not necessary. FW and PC are coming out soon so it really doesn't matter but...I was just wondering why stay if the game is no fun? Since Grinding SP is ALL the game is at this point.
Dust has a lot of potential to be a real cutting edge game. I want to keep playing this game but at the same time I don't want to go crazy with the bugs and fall behind the SP curve. Games are not fun when you rage. I have hope that this game will be much better one day and that's why I stick around. While this may make the chickenshit clowns in douche EX mad, but honestly I couldn't give a **** about them. My methods are unorthodoxed but it does get results No one cares if you AFK, aside from some carebears, but there's no reason to constantly make stupid and pointless threads about this. You AFK, I AFK, CCP knows we AFK, cool story bro. but I like reading the carebears threads. its good entertainment. |
Chojine Dentetsu
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
11
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:15:00 -
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The funny thing is, all the vets that have been pretty much exclusively afk for a while now, have left a large gap, where new players have been honing their skills and getting SP.
I highly doubt the competition that will face the few that hardly actively play will be the same as when they decided to start to perma-afk.
Maybe some will relish that fact, but I imagine some will feel as though they are entitled to be better at the game and will cry when they are not. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2043
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:19:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:
Mildly trolled? I'm pissed man! But I tell you what, man as you seem to like my style. You join my channel Ric Barlom Talks and we'll have a little Dust talk show. You can be the comedy relief. BTW do you need helium to sound like you do or is that all natural?
so all it takes is saying your full of tears - gotcha. Ill try to remember you have the emotionality of 3 y/o whose truck rolled out of his reach and crys for it lol You're still going on about the tears, aren't ya? No, seriously bro, I apologise. Didn't mean to bully your ass. Just get yourself a job and start earning your SP in game too and we're settled. lol this guy bullied me by cussing a lot. did you get your girls by yelling loud enough too? lolol
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Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1107
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:20:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:the only thing i can say against you SA is your trying to convert ppl in beleiving this is all fine and get them together to make afking really painful for casuals.
Point taken. I am very good at motivating or demotivating people and what you say about people believing strong figures is true.
However my rebuttal to you is that don't people have their own minds? Cant they think for themselves? If they cant, they will be stepped upon and I rather be the one doing the stepping upon than be the one being stepped upon.
This whole post started out as a haha post because I troll and like trolling. From that is spiraled onto something about honor and integrity and whatever crap shoots out an ********. Heck those clowns from douche ex started another post about how to counter my AFKing. People are so uptight and my mentality is if someone gets butthurt, I will shove it some more.
AFKing is not a problem for casuals. Casuals are the problem for casuals. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
22
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:22:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:
Mildly trolled? I'm pissed man! But I tell you what, man as you seem to like my style. You join my channel Ric Barlom Talks and we'll have a little Dust talk show. You can be the comedy relief. BTW do you need helium to sound like you do or is that all natural?
so all it takes is saying your full of tears - gotcha. Ill try to remember you have the emotionality of 3 y/o whose truck rolled out of his reach and crys for it lol You're still going on about the tears, aren't ya? No, seriously bro, I apologise. Didn't mean to bully your ass. Just get yourself a job and start earning your SP in game too and we're settled. lol this guy bullied me by cussing a lot. did you get your girls by yelling loud enough too? lolol
It does turn some of them on, you know. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
263
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:23:00 -
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Chojine Dentetsu wrote:The funny thing is, all the vets that have been pretty much exclusively afk for a while now, have left a large gap, where new players have been honing their skills and getting SP.
I highly doubt the competition that will face the few that hardly actively play will be the same as when they decided to start to perma-afk.
Maybe some will relish that fact, but I imagine some will feel as though they are entitled to be better at the game and will cry when they are not. I still play some matches but usually not till I am capped so im not afraid of the new wave of players I have still some tricks they never seen and this is true for most of the AFKers vets and I never play for the fair fight like most of this new wave of players do. it'll be fun once may 6th comes about |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2043
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:27:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:
Mildly trolled? I'm pissed man! But I tell you what, man as you seem to like my style. You join my channel Ric Barlom Talks and we'll have a little Dust talk show. You can be the comedy relief. BTW do you need helium to sound like you do or is that all natural?
so all it takes is saying your full of tears - gotcha. Ill try to remember you have the emotionality of 3 y/o whose truck rolled out of his reach and crys for it lol You're still going on about the tears, aren't ya? No, seriously bro, I apologise. Didn't mean to bully your ass. Just get yourself a job and start earning your SP in game too and we're settled. lol this guy bullied me by cussing a lot. did you get your girls by yelling loud enough too? lolol It does turn some of them on, you know. first thing we can both agree on ^^ |
Kiro Justice
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
25
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:28:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Kiro Justice wrote:
I see. Well, not that your choice really bothers me but if it's not fun to "Grind" there are plenty of games where that's not necessary. FW and PC are coming out soon so it really doesn't matter but...I was just wondering why stay if the game is no fun? Since Grinding SP is ALL the game is at this point.
Dust has a lot of potential to be a real cutting edge game. I want to keep playing this game but at the same time I don't want to go crazy with the bugs and fall behind the SP curve. Games are not fun when you rage. I have hope that this game will be much better one day and that's why I stick around. While this may make the chickenshit clowns in douche EX mad, but honestly I couldn't give a **** about them. My methods are unorthodoxed but it does get results
Can't argue with efficiency. For what you're trying to accomplish, it works and you have legitimate reasons. Hopefully we can actually meet on the battlefield on May 6th though. All you forum posters seem like you're really good at the game, and I want to put my skills (or lack thereof) against someone (Non-Pubbie) |
Chojine Dentetsu
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
12
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:32:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Chojine Dentetsu wrote:The funny thing is, all the vets that have been pretty much exclusively afk for a while now, have left a large gap, where new players have been honing their skills and getting SP.
I highly doubt the competition that will face the few that hardly actively play will be the same as when they decided to start to perma-afk.
Maybe some will relish that fact, but I imagine some will feel as though they are entitled to be better at the game and will cry when they are not. I still play some matches but usually not till I am capped so im not afraid of the new wave of players I have still some tricks they never seen and this is true for most of the AFKers vets and I never play for the fair fight like most of this new wave of players do. it'll be fun once may 6th comes about
There is no such thing as a fair fight, it's a game, and everybody should be out to put everybody else's virtual clone in a wooden box!
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Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1107
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:33:00 -
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Kiro Justice wrote:
Can't argue with efficiency. For what you're trying to accomplish, it works and you have legitimate reasons. Hopefully we can actually meet on the battlefield on May 6th though. All you forum posters seem like you're really good at the game, and I want to put my skills (or lack thereof) against someone (Non-Pubbie)
Plenty of gudfites coming ahead. Your guys will be fighting Gallente and we will be Caldari. Hopefully it will be more fun that red line pub stomping . |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
106
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Posted - 2013.04.30 20:47:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote: I have hope that this game will be much better one day and that's why I stick around. While this may make the chickenshit clowns in douche EX mad, but honestly I couldn't give a **** about them.
LOL how I didnt came up with that, which I find said panty twist ironic coming from the corp that has at least 2 players relying on redlines and Thale's for them to even play. |
Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:18:00 -
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plz! plz! remove all SP gained through AFKing on the 6th. we know you can track this stuff, CCP. The tears would be delicious.
these people are ridiculing you and ur game by making the claim that its more fun to AFK than to actually play. |
howard sanchez
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
511
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Posted - 2013.04.30 21:23:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:My methods are unorthodoxed but it does get results Your methods aren't unorthodox, they're abusive to the current system. Fortunately for you and your kind, CCP seems to favor people not playing their game. Here's hoping things get shaken up with Uprising DUST Fiend, you and Sentient both care a lot about Dust as a game. You both enjoy playing Dust. You both want the game to succeed.
Stop looking at every difference between your two approaches to the frustration of a long hard beta as insurmountable. They're not. Focus instead on those things we all have in common.
Sentient, and every player who has ever afk'd a match in Dust, loves this game so much that they'd rather electronically loiter in an MCC than play Skyrim, Defiance, hopscotch or baseball. Remember that! These players believe that what they gain now by afk'ing will be worth it to them later when the game is updated
Everyone should try to stop hating and blaming and flaming and try to understand what the other person is doing. And why.
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