DUST Search - Forge gun OP

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Another Heavy SOB wrote:

Nguruthos IX wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

I tend to tip towards the group saying "forge guns OP" primarily because I've flown a lot of coffins, and I'm halfway descent (read: not painfully horrendous) at forge gun sniping.

Forge guns remain an extremely powerful weapon without too too much skill (but definitely some, especially if you use the Assault), and the higher tier ones are pretty effective anti infantry as well.

I wouldn't go so far as to call them OP, just maybe a tad too strong / easy to use at the moment.

I agree that hitting a (moving) target with the charge holding variants takes some skill.

However I feel it takes me no skill to nail a 'coffin' flying anywhere with a militia forge. And for the damage it does I can take any ship down in <5 seconds.

forge guns might be a little too strong in general. militia are Definily too cheap, easy to use, easy to access, and too powerful.

The answer is not to nerf forge guns, I'm sure an ADV swarm launcher will knock out your flying piniata just as quickly.

The answer is to make dropships actually useful. Albeit it is rare but I've had a dropship survive 2 consecutive hits from an MLT forge (was on my assault alt) which was plenty of time for the pilot to take cover and recharge his reppers, I never did bring it down.

I think the damage is fine, even at the higher levels. The only change I'd like to see is a slight reduction to projectile speed to require the shooter to have to lead their targets more.

Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 40	Posted - 2013.04.24 00:58:00 - [31] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I tend to tip towards the group saying "forge guns OP" primarily because I've flown a lot of coffins, and I'm halfway descent (read: not painfully horrendous) at forge gun sniping. Forge guns remain an extremely powerful weapon without too too much skill (but definitely some, especially if you use the Assault), and the higher tier ones are pretty effective anti infantry as well. I wouldn't go so far as to call them OP, just maybe a tad too strong / easy to use at the moment. I agree that hitting a (moving) target with the charge holding variants takes some skill. However I feel it takes me no skill to nail a 'coffin' flying anywhere with a militia forge. And for the damage it does I can take any ship down in <5 seconds. forge guns might be a little too strong in general. militia are Definily too cheap, easy to use, easy to access, and too powerful. The answer is not to nerf forge guns, I'm sure an ADV swarm launcher will knock out your flying piniata just as quickly. The answer is to make dropships actually useful. Albeit it is rare but I've had a dropship survive 2 consecutive hits from an MLT forge (was on my assault alt) which was plenty of time for the pilot to take cover and recharge his reppers, I never did bring it down.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1334	Posted - 2013.04.24 01:02:00 - [32] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I tend to tip towards the group saying "forge guns OP" primarily because I've flown a lot of coffins, and I'm halfway descent (read: not painfully horrendous) at forge gun sniping. Forge guns remain an extremely powerful weapon without too too much skill (but definitely some, especially if you use the Assault), and the higher tier ones are pretty effective anti infantry as well. I wouldn't go so far as to call them OP, just maybe a tad too strong / easy to use at the moment. I agree that hitting a (moving) target with the charge holding variants takes some skill. However I feel it takes me no skill to nail a 'coffin' flying anywhere with a militia forge. And for the damage it does I can take any ship down in <5 seconds. forge guns might be a little too strong in general. militia are Definily too cheap, easy to use, easy to access, and too powerful. The answer is not to nerf forge guns, I'm sure an ADV swarm launcher will knock out your flying piniata just as quickly. The answer is to make dropships actually useful. Albeit it is rare but I've had a dropship survive 2 consecutive hits from an MLT forge (was on my assault alt) which was plenty of time for the pilot to take cover and recharge his reppers, I never did bring it down. I think the damage is fine, even at the higher levels. The only change I'd like to see is a slight reduction to projectile speed to require the shooter to have to lead their targets more.
Enderr Wigginn KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 91	Posted - 2013.04.24 01:07:00 - [33] - Quote Yousuf Sirajuddin wrote: i'm tired of driving LAV then the 'Standard Forge Gun' can destroy them in one shot. Even when I use shield boosters they still blow up my LAVs But said LAV can run over any proto suit and one shot him is not OP ? One a lighter note I enjoy running around with a regular assault forge gun two complex damage and level 3 proficiency decimating enemy vehicles and making them go WTF it is only a regular assault forge gun
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 40	Posted - 2013.04.24 01:08:00 - [34] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Another Heavy SOB wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I tend to tip towards the group saying "forge guns OP" primarily because I've flown a lot of coffins, and I'm halfway descent (read: not painfully horrendous) at forge gun sniping. Forge guns remain an extremely powerful weapon without too too much skill (but definitely some, especially if you use the Assault), and the higher tier ones are pretty effective anti infantry as well. I wouldn't go so far as to call them OP, just maybe a tad too strong / easy to use at the moment. I agree that hitting a (moving) target with the charge holding variants takes some skill. However I feel it takes me no skill to nail a 'coffin' flying anywhere with a militia forge. And for the damage it does I can take any ship down in <5 seconds. forge guns might be a little too strong in general. militia are Definily too cheap, easy to use, easy to access, and too powerful. The answer is not to nerf forge guns, I'm sure an ADV swarm launcher will knock out your flying piniata just as quickly. The answer is to make dropships actually useful. Albeit it is rare but I've had a dropship survive 2 consecutive hits from an MLT forge (was on my assault alt) which was plenty of time for the pilot to take cover and recharge his reppers, I never did bring it down. I think the damage is fine, even at the higher levels. The only change I'd like to see is a slight reduction to projectile speed to require the shooter to have to lead their targets more. Fine with me, never had a problem shooting down choppers with an RPG in BF3. Although currently we have to lead based on lag, on top of the minimal lead necessary to compensate for projectile speed. Which is interesting to say the least.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 225	Posted - 2013.04.24 01:11:00 - [35] - Quote Enderr Wigginn wrote: Yousuf Sirajuddin wrote: i'm tired of driving LAV then the 'Standard Forge Gun' can destroy them in one shot. Even when I use shield boosters they still blow up my LAVs But said LAV can run over any proto suit and one shot him is not OP ? One a lighter note I enjoy running around with a regular assault forge gun two complex damage and level 3 proficiency decimating enemy vehicles and making them go WTF it is only a regular assault forge gun LAVs shouldn't be free at least
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 438	Posted - 2013.04.24 01:59:00 - [36] - Quote So, in this thread, we have someone complaining that, effectively, a recoil-less rifle (albeit more powerful) can take out a jeep in a single shot. Well done. Seriously, develop some common sense before you decide to start posting.
JETSTORM1090 Against All Oddz 33	Posted - 2013.04.24 02:18:00 - [37] - Quote 1st. my protoforge takes more than one shot to kill a good LAV 2nd. If a tank is getting 2 shot from 1 protoforge, then lets face it...your tank sucks. 3rd.I laugh at any one who thinks the forge gun is op...
Scramble Scrub Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 6	Posted - 2013.04.24 02:43:00 - [38] - Quote The forge gun is like almost perfectly balanced when compared to every other weapon in the game. Replication, they were God guns. ( the horror...) In the E3 build, the lost all of their splash, and so E of their range. In chrome. Or the build after E3, the lost nearly all of their eange I think. But we managed to get it back. Thus weapon is 98% perfect. A few more tiny touches here and there, and t will be perfect.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 179	Posted - 2013.04.24 02:52:00 - [39] - Quote The Hand Cannon is my second favorite weapon.
JETSTORM1090 Against All Oddz 35	Posted - 2013.04.24 07:05:00 - [40] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: The Hand Cannon is my second favorite weapon. Same here, I love me some DAU's

copy left The Wanderer Copy Left 93	Posted - 2013.04.24 07:12:00 - [41] - Quote My LAV can take two forge shots and a AV grenade before it catches fire. i dont know what you have on yours.
copy left The Wanderer Copy Left 93	Posted - 2013.04.24 07:14:00 - [42] - Quote What if they slowed down the forge gun projectile? To the point where you can see it coming before you instantly bust?
Nelo Angel0 The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 29	Posted - 2013.04.24 07:21:00 - [43] - Quote smells the QQ in the air seems like my tear extracter is doing it's job
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 394	Posted - 2013.04.24 08:11:00 - [44] - Quote YOU'RE DRIVING A ******* LAV STUPID! IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A ROOF!
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries 142	Posted - 2013.04.24 08:19:00 - [45] - Quote Do you know whats even better than one shotting lavs with my DUA ? Ill tell you blowing the driver back to the mcc right out of the drivers seat then blowing their lav into tiny bits . Ahh the tears this brings
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 382	Posted - 2013.04.24 08:47:00 - [46] - Quote Just remove the militia FG. And perhaps scroll back the damage a LITTLE on the standard. Assault and Breach are perfect as they are.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries 142	Posted - 2013.04.24 09:20:00 - [47] - Quote I wouldent remove the malitia vatient just nerf its dammage a but and increase its chargeup time . All other forges are working asintended . I miss my proto breech
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 382	Posted - 2013.04.24 09:23:00 - [48] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: I wouldent remove the malitia vatient just nerf its dammage a but and increase its chargeup time . All other forges are working asintended . I miss my proto breech hugs feel you pain Has meant my accuraccy has really improved from using the assault so much
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries 142	Posted - 2013.04.24 09:26:00 - [49] - Quote Oh yea I do love the assault forges(great for fornt line ) but nothing and I do mean nothing packs a punch like a breech forge gun with 3 complex dammage mods
J4yne C0bb DUST University Ivy League 16	Posted - 2013.04.24 10:10:00 - [50] - Quote Yousuf Sirajuddin wrote: i'm tired of driving LAV then the 'Standard Forge Gun' can destroy them in one shot. Even when I use shield boosters they still blow up my LAVs You don't say. See, I got tired of getting my slow fat heinie run over by squads of LAV drivers looking to pad their KDR, so I decided to start spawning in with my forge gun. That way, I get to cap those jokers before they get me. I find it particularly hilarious to wait until the last possible second, the moment just before they think they've got the drop on me, to blow them into little tiny chunks. Problem solved!

Charlotte O'Dell Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 135	Posted - 2013.04.24 16:29:00 - [51] - Quote AV was buffed to counter tanks, making ALL vehicles obsolete except in the hands of the 1% of vehicle users that know what they're doing. So yeah. Forge guns are deff OP.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries 144	Posted - 2013.04.24 16:44:00 - [52] - Quote Not all av got the buff , I dont think the performance on my forge has changed much either for the better or the worse. Forges are working as intended.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2013.04.24 18:21:00 - [53] - Quote Yousuf Sirajuddin wrote: i'm tired of driving LAV then the 'Standard Forge Gun' can destroy them in one shot. Even when I use shield boosters they still blow up my LAVs So you don't want a gun that puts out 1200 base damage to destroy a vehicle that has less than 1200 HP in one shot? Why? In your eyes, is are the breach forge guns allowed to destroy an LAV in one shot?
hooc roht Black Soul Choir 9	Posted - 2013.04.24 18:54:00 - [54] - Quote I have as of yet met a forge player I could not kill, and I am a noob with no gear and crap SP. Slow, fat, and can't really fire back.....Seriously easiest 50 WPs in the game. Forge guns are not OP.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 227	Posted - 2013.04.24 19:00:00 - [55] - Quote hooc roht wrote: I have as of yet met a forge player I could not kill, and I am a noob with no gear and crap SP. Slow, fat, and can't really fire back.....Seriously easiest 50 WPs in the game. Forge guns are not OP. This might be the stupidest post I've ever read. Seriously.
Osiris Ausare TeamPlayers EoN. 34	Posted - 2013.04.24 19:01:00 - [56] - Quote I wish people would stop with all the OP threads and complaining they died numerous times. As I've said in previous comments, HTFU, learn how to counter said weapon, or move based on the terrain, or even get some of your squad mates to provide cover/counter attacks. It's not that hard to deal with powerful weapons, just analyze the situation and deal with it. If people constantly call for nerfs, it will ruin the game. I'd be really frustrated if the AR became a glorified Super Soaker, or if we had "friendly" matches where we all hug and skip around the map. Just stop with the complaining and evolve your play. Osiris.
hooc roht Black Soul Choir 9	Posted - 2013.04.24 19:06:00 - [57] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: hooc roht wrote: I have as of yet met a forge player I could not kill, and I am a noob with no gear and crap SP. Slow, fat, and can't really fire back.....Seriously easiest 50 WPs in the game. Forge guns are not OP. This might be the stupidest post I've ever read. Seriously. So you call it a stupid post without explaining why... You should start a blog to fill with your great insights.
Nazz'Dragg FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 6	Posted - 2013.04.24 19:10:00 - [58] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Knight SoIaire wrote: Nothing to see here, move along folks. i had standard forge guns doing 3k damage to me. in a tank. although he was in an LAV and should die. Forges are op. they do more damage than railguns do. want them as gunners. RAILGUNS HAVE SCOPES enough said about that. So would you sign my petition to remove the scopes off of railguns?
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 173	Posted - 2013.04.24 19:20:00 - [59] - Quote Nazz'Dragg wrote: BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Knight SoIaire wrote: Nothing to see here, move along folks. i had standard forge guns doing 3k damage to me. in a tank. although he was in an LAV and should die. Forges are op. they do more damage than railguns do. want them as gunners. RAILGUNS HAVE SCOPES enough said about that. So would you sign my petition to remove the scopes off of railguns? OMG sry i forgot it's so hard to aim at a big fat tank while i have to aim at 1 infantry. so quit your whining. get real if u can't hit a tank u suck as a forge gunner.
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 173	Posted - 2013.04.24 19:31:00 - [60] - Quote JETSTORM1090 wrote: 1st. my protoforge takes more than one shot to kill a good LAV 2nd. If a tank is getting 2 shot from 1 protoforge, then lets face it...your tank sucks. 3rd.I laugh at any one who thinks the forge gun is op... so what shield tank can live from 2 5k shots. there isn't one tht can unless u make some rediculous build. and thts an advanced forge. it might have been more i was in an armor tank 5.5k armor with shields 1 shot from the forge only brought me down to 500 armor. plz. it was a soma. i was messing around.



Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page