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CCP Frame
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:33:00 -
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The DUST 514 Journey Continues!
We have learned a great deal throughout last year, both from the perspective of what works and what does not with regards to the progression system itself and more importantly how you are using the items to advance through the game. This is all thanks to the terrific amount of player feedback weGÇÖve received during the beta period.
Read brand new Skill System Changes dev blog by CCP Praetorian right here - on our website, and feel free to post your comments in this thread. |
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Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
1230
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:39:00 -
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YES!
EDIT: Nvm, I've already seen all of this. |
Emi Love
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
9
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:41:00 -
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Awesome, can't wait |
Shley Ashes
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
6
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:51:00 -
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Does this include Officer drops/salvage ? |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
392
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Posted - 2013.04.18 02:53:00 -
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Question. Are you going to be removing ALL items from our inventories? if so, (How) will you compensate us for lost Live Event prizes/officer gear?
The ideal situation, IMO, would be to allow us to sell items back to an NPC market at cost for a week, some time down the road. Alternately, opening player trading would be a good start as well. |
Exardor
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:51:00 -
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The last time i heard "simpler, deeper, more powerful" - Bioware delivered Dragon Age II.
Brrrrrr... |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
267
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:06:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:Question. Are you going to be removing ALL items from our inventories? if so, (How) will you compensate us for lost Live Event prizes/officer gear?
The ideal situation, IMO, would be to allow us to sell items back to an NPC market at cost for a week, some time down the road. Alternately, opening player trading would be a good start as well. "We will be publishing a dev blog in the future which will explain in detail all changes related to equipment, skills and currency." -CCP Frame
Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/dust514/comments/1ckz34/dust_514_developer_ama/c9hi3wd |
RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
90
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:29:00 -
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Seriously? This is the dev blog yall have been promising since last week (if not longer)? Yall really couldnt get this out by last Friday?
Dev Blog wrote:We have learned a great deal throughout last year, both from the perspective of what works and what does not with regards to the progression system itself and more importantly how you are using the items to advance through the game.
Im glad yall were able to learn so much about that in such a short timeframe (lol), but yall need to rapidly learn that this carrot in front of the horse routine is gonna get old real doggone quick. If yall dont have any information to put out that has actual substance then yall need to just sit quietly in your offices until something comes up. I know yall are working hard on updates and new content, but spending so much time trying to figure out how to dangle a rotted carrot in front of an already dead horse isnt helping you or us. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1446
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:36:00 -
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Emi Love wrote:Awesome, can't wait
same |
hydraSlav's
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
85
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Posted - 2013.04.18 04:59:00 -
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"Deb blog" wrote:... and a full list of in-game items for the Uprising update. List of items? What about their stats?
The first Merc Cast promised list of item stats |
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Naedeus
DUST University Ivy League
18
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Posted - 2013.04.18 05:10:00 -
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hydraSlav's wrote:"Deb blog" wrote:... and a full list of in-game items for the Uprising update. List of items? What about their stats? The first Merc Cast promised list of item stats
Might include the item(s) and their stats. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
295
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Posted - 2013.04.18 05:58:00 -
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Well this will be interesting to see where it heads and like regular new eden patches it can be a win/loss scenario wether or not to buy like lots of boosters now or wait and hope the price drops... |
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Remm Duchax
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2
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Posted - 2013.04.18 11:29:00 -
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Ooh can't wait for it! Everything seems to be so promising really! Kitten zee haterz! |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1251
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Posted - 2013.04.18 11:34:00 -
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Oh wow is it just my impression that the same thing had beeing posted on the PS blog? i was expecting a FULL LIST with new items and skill requirement changes. But not just generalised stuff that we where allready aible to see like 2-3 days ago. Blatant case of copy and paste. Sure youve put some additional lines into it but thats not really helping. On eve for a example you announce months before changes to ships, skills and other stuff but on Dust we see it like 2-3 days before something changes. I would like to know how much SP i need to spend for a certain role BEFORE the changes are going to get implemented. And the soon is not a proper answer i would at least name a date when you give us new informations cause "soon" can be from tomorrow till may the 5th. In the mean time we are all remaining in the dark mist of speculations. |
KatanaPT
Tech Guard
36
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Posted - 2013.04.18 11:35:00 -
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Btw, if we choose to follow another route for suits and skill up in another race, and instead of choosing ADV or PRO caldari assault suits i go for gallente, what can i do to those suits i already have in assets? Will i be able to sell them, trade? And recoup the isk i lost buying them in the first place. Im sorry if by asking this demonstrates my lack of knowledge but it really is bothering me. This and also for example, if there will be a comparable Raven suit in the other races, or aurum BPO suits. I do love my Raven, but if my skills are going to respec into another race, and the aurum items are going to be refunded is it logical to ask that there will be an alternative? |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
133
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Posted - 2013.04.18 12:08:00 -
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KatanaPT
Tech Guard
36
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Posted - 2013.04.18 12:36:00 -
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lol altough i do love Jean Luc, a simple yes or no would suffice :P |
Eleanore de Blank
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
2
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Posted - 2013.04.18 12:37:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:Question. Are you going to be removing ALL items from our inventories? if so, (How) will you compensate us for lost Live Event prizes/officer gear?
This is very important question. I think noone would like to loose all of the "special" items, that can not be bought back in marketplace.
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Mortal Maximus
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
21
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Posted - 2013.04.18 12:57:00 -
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Hmm, pretty awesome |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
409
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Posted - 2013.04.18 13:07:00 -
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LOL I new better than to get my hopes up. I saw the dev post about this when it was found on the PSN blog and they stated the one they gave us here would have more info. NOT as if.... Its pretty sad to promise something you know you wont deliver. |
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BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
96
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Posted - 2013.04.18 13:12:00 -
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I, for one, am excited. However, I feel like I've already read this somewhere...
A presence I haven't felt since... |
Raph Zetter
World Eaterz
15
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Posted - 2013.04.18 14:37:00 -
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I trust you will not be removing militia BPO's as they have no skill requirements
Otherwise I'm just going to view this as a way to try and get more Arum out of players since you increased all the BPO prices since I purchased them........ |
Domingo Cervezas
Cult of the Warrior
16
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Posted - 2013.04.18 15:24:00 -
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There are not enough details in the blog to evaluate these changes. Also I have noticed there is no blog about what Uprising is all about, I mean features, tweaks, rebalances and such.
Please don't dumb down the game too much. I expect the game to grow in complexity like EVE. |
Kairos Nitak
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
5
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Posted - 2013.04.18 16:20:00 -
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Eleanore de Blank wrote:Orin the Freak wrote:Question. Are you going to be removing ALL items from our inventories? if so, (How) will you compensate us for lost Live Event prizes/officer gear?
This is very important question. I think noone would like to loose all those "special" items, that can not be bought back in marketplace after reset.
"you will get your skill points (SP) back and the ISK and AUR (in-game currencies) value of any item that is removed from your inventory."
This kind of indicates that they will not be refunding everything. I expect they will leave most if not all event prizes/officer gear |
machine3
Comunidad PlayStation ES
0
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Posted - 2013.04.18 20:14:00 -
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*_* |
shade emry3
Conspiratus Immortalis
19
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Posted - 2013.04.19 01:18:00 -
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is their a ccp ninja? because i don't see any blue tab answers, must be a ninja at work here... * sarcasm* |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
304
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Posted - 2013.04.19 01:34:00 -
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I hope the future currency clarification will tell what will happen to:
- Officer gear - event/tournament/PS Home/any rewards - Former vanity suits - Merc Pack / Assault Pack items |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
179
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Posted - 2013.04.19 02:44:00 -
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Will the salvage items and vanity dropsuits remain untouched? I'd appreciate not loosing these. |
GOTDUST
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.04.19 03:10:00 -
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We are dying with anticipation. I must say,if CCP jacks the prices up again, there will be a lot of empty spots. |
Kairos Nitak
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
5
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Posted - 2013.04.19 06:42:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Will the salvage items and vanity dropsuits remain untouched? I'd appreciate not loosing these.
Your salvage will be reimbursed by their value in isk, however there is no official word yet on the "vanity dropsuits" |
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Heavenly Daughter
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
72
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Posted - 2013.04.19 10:40:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:I hope the future currency clarification will tell what will happen to:
- Officer gear - event/tournament/PS Home/any rewards - Former vanity suits - Merc Pack / Assault Pack items
Would really like an answer to this, I have ALMOST every vanity suit and would like to keep them amongst others, like the black and white LAV.
H.D |
V1RONXSS
AL0NE Inc.
4
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Posted - 2013.04.19 10:46:00 -
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Dont care about aur reimbursement along with mercpacs so much but only for my shiny event dropsuits , pls let us know about your plans on it. |
PLAYSTTION
BLACK WATCH CORP
0
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Posted - 2013.04.19 11:28:00 -
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What about prize suits and blueprints from the merc and starter packs. I just spent 30 dollars and am not going to pay again. |
Dezus 1000
Reaper Galactic
14
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Posted - 2013.04.19 17:12:00 -
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One question that resonated with me from a friend is what will be the ISK value of officer grade weapons? If I am using the wrong term, I am talking about the weapons that come from rare salvage drops. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
926
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:06:00 -
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Raph Zetter wrote:I trust you will not be removing militia BPO's as they have no skill requirements
Otherwise I'm just going to view this as a way to try and get more Arum out of players since you increased all the BPO prices since I purchased them........ You realize that it says at market value at the time of the reset right? That means that if you paid less than they're worth now, then you'll get more Aurum than what you originally paid, if they get taken of course. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
926
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:08:00 -
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Dezus 1000 wrote:One question that resonated with me from a friend is what will be the ISK value of officer grade weapons? If I am using the wrong term, I am talking about the weapons that come from rare salvage drops. Sup D!
I'm guessing they'll just let us keep those, since they have no market value. Hopefully the next blog will give a definite answer though. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
304
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:00:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Raph Zetter wrote:I trust you will not be removing militia BPO's as they have no skill requirements
Otherwise I'm just going to view this as a way to try and get more Arum out of players since you increased all the BPO prices since I purchased them........ You realize that it says at market value at the time of the reset right? That means that if you paid less than they're worth now, then you'll get more Aurum than what you originally paid, if they get taken of course.
Somehow I'm afraid that's not gonna happen. =/ Even tho it would be logical and in line with statement. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
304
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:02:00 -
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REQUEST: Please add FAQ on the original post and the dev blog. Thanks. |
Ace Pendrag
Taiyou Corporation
1
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:09:00 -
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Kairos Nitak wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Will the salvage items and vanity dropsuits remain untouched? I'd appreciate not loosing these. Your salvage will be reimbursed by their value in isk, however there is no official word yet on the "vanity dropsuits"
That is understandable. However, what is the value of Officer (Rare Item) salvage? There is no value associated with them. Does that mean they are priceless? All of these items should be kept for future trade and replaced with working items if they no longer work.
There are to many unknowns and I hope CCP sticks to their statement of releasing an Excel document with the new skill tree and weapons specs by the 25th of April. I will be highly disappointed if the don't. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
179
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:45:00 -
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Ace Pendrag wrote:Kairos Nitak wrote:Your salvage will be reimbursed by their value in isk, however there is no official word yet on the "vanity dropsuits" That is understandable. However, what is the value of Officer (Rare Item) salvage? There is no value associated with them. Does that mean they are priceless? All of these items should be kept for future trade and replaced with working items if they no longer work. There are to many unknowns and I hope CCP sticks to their statement of releasing an Excel document with the new skill tree and weapons specs by the 25th of April. I will be highly disappointed if the don't.
Officer salvage and other proto salvage needs to remain untouched. While I am sure the ISK will be reimbursed for skillbooks, there are simply too many items that I saved up and plan to use in next build. |
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
315
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Posted - 2013.04.20 02:12:00 -
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Ace Pendrag wrote:
There are to many unknowns and I hope CCP sticks to their statement of releasing an Excel document with the new skill tree and weapons specs by the 25th of April. I will be highly disappointed if the don't.
I came here looking for this comment. What's your source on this? Has there been any news as to whether or not CCP will keep this schedule? |
Domacretus Crux
Blood Oath Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.04.21 02:09:00 -
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Well I'm not with CCP or anything but as a few others have tried to answer some questions ill also try to. To begin with things with no market value such as officer grade weapons will more than likely NOT be taken from your inventory due to the fact they have no price. The skill system can be questioned all one wants however we can only speculate i understand the impatience however its obvious that atm we will not have answers so we have no choice but to wait give them a break they have alot they must work on and this is a free to play game so be as thankful as you can stop whining plz |
Cal Predine
StarKnight Security
38
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Posted - 2013.04.21 08:49:00 -
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You know, I'm kind of OK with all this... Yes, I'd like to keep my Officer salvage, and I can't really see a reason to take those away, even if they do get re-specced. They're random drops, and I can't use half of them anyway - it's not as if I chose to spend money on them, and then someone moved the goalposts... It'd be very nice to retain the "reward" dropsuit blueprints we've earned throughout the beta. It'd also be great if they had enduring relevance, so when half the world's population is playing Dust and its sub-games, they can see we were one of the first. But it'd make more sense to replace them with a racial equivalent, or take them away and offer a choice of replacements - it's no good having a Caldari beta-tester Assault suit if you want to play Amarr... And on that front, I thought we'd been told that in future character abilities are going to be more divided along racial lines, although that certainly wasn't apparent in that weapons skill tree screenshot... Assuming this is still the plan, this will need changes. If you are Minmatar, you'll likely find the Caldari/ Gallente suits are more tailored to provide the correct mix of CPU/ PG you need for your Exile assault rifle Blueprint than your Minmatar suits are. Maybe your Minmatar character will be offered an "Exile chemical-propelled slug-thrower" blueprint instead. Or maybe we could just call the Minmatar service rifle an "Assault Rifle", and rename all the other stuff to what they actually are? Sniper rifle is man-portable anti-materiel railgun? Current AR is rapid-fire plasma pulse rifle? Shotgun is a plasma pellet scatter gun (I don't see any shot in use there). I'm sure you can all think of better new names than mine.
And don't get me started on the "Mass Driver"... |
Stevez WingYip
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.04.21 15:31:00 -
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So this is live now? I noticed a great change in skill points. |
Tiluvo
Digital Mercs
54
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:59:00 -
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Stevez WingYip wrote:So this is live now? I noticed a great change in skill points. No, these changes are in the Uprising expansion, which is launching on May 6th. The changes you're most likely seeing are due to the weekly SP cap; after you gain 190,400 SP in battle, you stop getting SP for time spent in battle and only get them for WP earned during the battle; passive SP do not contribute to the cap and are not affected by it. |
Axirts
Misfits Of Mayhem
43
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Posted - 2013.04.23 09:08:00 -
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Corp control skill? Will it auto apply the points in that if you're the CEO or maybe it's being removed altogether? |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
486
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Posted - 2013.04.23 12:01:00 -
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Like everyone else I'm just speculating here but I don't see how officer weapons or militia BPO's will be a part of this.
Militia BPO's don't require any skill to use so why would a change in the skill tree affect which ones you use? Plus the amount of free AUR that would mean for people would be insane. I bought extra of everything in anticipation of the market opening up so I'd be receiving about 650,000 AUR for free. That's like $300 US so no way in hell is that going to happen.
Also you didn't pay anything for officer gear so how can getting a refund for it even make sense?
I believe a DEV said merc pack and prize items will be remaining in the game but I don't remember the exact words and I can't find a link. |
Ace Pendrag
Taiyou Corporation
2
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Posted - 2013.04.23 15:07:00 -
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When will the Excel sheet with the new skill tree be posted as stated in the podcast? I look forward to reviewing before the release of uprising. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
463
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Posted - 2013.04.24 06:17:00 -
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I think it will be after any unveil at fanfest it may give away, but before nest build. Day after fanfest maybe? I assume it is done and ready, they are just not hitting post key until after unveils are done. |
Xin Tiger
Dead Six Initiative
0
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Posted - 2013.04.24 12:59:00 -
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what about rare weapons that have no market value what will happen to them ? :S |
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Ace Pendrag
Taiyou Corporation
2
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:06:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:
There are to many unknowns and I hope CCP sticks to their statement of releasing an Excel document with the new skill tree and weapons specs by the 25th of April. I will be highly disappointed if the don't.
I came here looking for this comment. What's your source on this? Has there been any news as to whether or not CCP will keep this schedule?
My source is Podcast #1, you can listen to it here: http://dust514.com/beta/news/2013/04/merc-cast-episode-1/
I do not have any news, but I am anxiously awaiting the spreadsheet as it should shed some light on the upcoming release. A detailed change list, feature description, or a manual would be awesome. However, not expected as CCP does not document well if at all. |
Destros Sadowfans
Shadow Worrior Legion
1
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Posted - 2013.04.24 17:57:00 -
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Can't wait for the large update to the game. BUT, i really don't want to lose all my gear that was salvage. So i hope they give us alot of ISK for the gear that we can't buy back. But over all this is the largest build to the game and can't wait to see all the hard work they put in to this game, pay off. Now to all that are worried to lose everything or just gear. The game is still a beta so exspect this to happen alot till they release the full game of this. |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
90
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Posted - 2013.04.25 00:28:00 -
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Ace Pendrag wrote:When will the Excel sheet with the new skill tree be posted as stated in the podcast? I look forward to reviewing before the release of uprising. This is a myth apparently. We will not be getting any further information. We will just figure it out on May 6. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
45
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Posted - 2013.04.25 03:48:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:When will the Excel sheet with the new skill tree be posted as stated in the podcast? I look forward to reviewing before the release of uprising. This is a myth apparently. We will not be getting any further information. We will just figure it out on May 6.
or wait untill the information is released for fanfest... as they arnt going to give away everything that they are presenting at fanfest now will they...
wait 2 whole days
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Ninjanomyx
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
32
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Posted - 2013.04.25 04:43:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:Kairos Nitak wrote:Your salvage will be reimbursed by their value in isk, however there is no official word yet on the "vanity dropsuits" That is understandable. However, what is the value of Officer (Rare Item) salvage? There is no value associated with them. Does that mean they are priceless? All of these items should be kept for future trade and replaced with working items if they no longer work. There are to many unknowns and I hope CCP sticks to their statement of releasing an Excel document with the new skill tree and weapons specs by the 25th of April. I will be highly disappointed if the don't. Officer salvage and other proto salvage needs to remain untouched. While I am sure the ISK will be reimbursed for skillbooks, there are simply too many items that I saved up and plan to use in next build.
This title was & still is slated as an MMOFPS linked to an MMORPG. I can safely assume Officer Gear will not be taken or converted, neither BPO nor BPC as these are essentially classified as Rare Drops in an MMO. Rare Drops ,AKA Salvage, has a defined Tier Value that essentially solidifies itself as a Player Determined Value item, thus rendering it immune to NPC Payout. As for Vasnity Items I can speculate they will be refunded in AUR if & only if May 6 brings out that Color Customization for Dropsuits & Vehicles Option. If not then I am almost assured that the Vanity Items will retain the standard utility it has until then.
Also, I believe CCP's Marketing Division is well aware of the reprocussions for allowing Current Market Value of AUR to *Insert Currency Here* to overinflate & jeopardize the future Mutual Economy of EVE - DUST 514. The already gained value of AUR to ISK is generous enough as it stands alone. (Reasoning for this being acceptable compared to AUR to *Insert Currency Here* is that it is almost guaranteed to not sell anywhere near as high as Current Market Value due to future Player Trade being P2P. This both rewards the Savvy Investor/Entrepreneur and puts a Check & Balance in place to ensure there is no direct link to *Insert Currency Here* loss on CCP's end.
One may argue the ISK to PLEX to AUR possibility still makes it a relevant issue, but the Player again has to find a Buyer for said Product & as per MMO Standard Archetypes there will be those who will Blacklist & "Town Crier" it up preventing immediate sale of the Item(s) in question, & there will be those that attempt Market Inflation or Undercut other Potential Sellers. These factors prove Mutually Beneficial in the long run as it displays/promotes the depth of the intended Metagame for EVE & DUST 514 (& any other MMO @ that) while encouraging the Gamer/Investor to remain a Loyal Customer, all without any significant burden to the Bank-o-CCP. |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
92
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Posted - 2013.04.25 12:55:00 -
[56] - Quote
Chances Ghost wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:When will the Excel sheet with the new skill tree be posted as stated in the podcast? I look forward to reviewing before the release of uprising. This is a myth apparently. We will not be getting any further information. We will just figure it out on May 6. or wait untill the information is released for fanfest... as they arnt going to give away everything that they are presenting at fanfest now will they... wait 2 whole days I'd be okay with that if they hadn't stated numerous times that we would already have the info. Weeks ago it was screen shots holding it up. |
Ace Pendrag
Taiyou Corporation
3
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Posted - 2013.04.26 00:28:00 -
[57] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:When will the Excel sheet with the new skill tree be posted as stated in the podcast? I look forward to reviewing before the release of uprising. This is a myth apparently. We will not be getting any further information. We will just figure it out on May 6.
I figured that much. So far CCP does not impress me with their statements. They have not followed through on any that I have seen do far. Including not giving us our blueprints from the human endurance event.
I personally like the game or the idea of it. But CCP has to understand that we are not PC players and we console gamers expect our games to work as stated. The game needs action, depth, and clear information that are all available from the console.
I have hopes for uprising, but so far the game progresses very slowly. Other console developers are churning out new DLCs including maps, gear, and play expansion at a rate that makes CCP look like they are from the dark ages. If they can not do the same they will end up going the way of the dodo bird... |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
95
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Posted - 2013.04.26 01:45:00 -
[58] - Quote
Alldin Kan wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:Kairos Nitak wrote:Your salvage will be reimbursed by their value in isk, however there is no official word yet on the "vanity dropsuits" That is understandable. However, what is the value of Officer (Rare Item) salvage? There is no value associated with them. Does that mean they are priceless? All of these items should be kept for future trade and replaced with working items if they no longer work. There are to many unknowns and I hope CCP sticks to their statement of releasing an Excel document with the new skill tree and weapons specs by the 25th of April. I will be highly disappointed if the don't. Officer salvage and other proto salvage needs to remain untouched. While I am sure the ISK will be reimbursed for skillbooks, there are simply too many items that I saved up and plan to use in next build. If proto salvage is taken away, but compensated for then it's a push. You can just purchase it. |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
95
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Posted - 2013.04.26 01:49:00 -
[59] - Quote
Ace Pendrag wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:When will the Excel sheet with the new skill tree be posted as stated in the podcast? I look forward to reviewing before the release of uprising. This is a myth apparently. We will not be getting any further information. We will just figure it out on May 6. I figured that much. So far CCP does not impress me with their statements. They have not followed through on any that I have seen do far. Including not giving us our blueprints from the human endurance event. I personally like the game or the idea of it. But CCP has to understand that we are not PC players and we console gamers expect our games to work as stated. The game needs action, depth, and clear information that are all available from the console. I have hopes for uprising, but so far the game progresses very slowly. Other console developers are churning out new DLCs including maps, gear, and play expansion at a rate that makes CCP look like they are from the dark ages. If they can not do the same they will end up going the way of the dodo bird... I am willing to wait for them to develop the game, but the communication is frustrating as hell.
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Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative
153
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Posted - 2013.04.26 05:49:00 -
[60] - Quote
Ace Pendrag wrote:So far CCP does not impress me with their statements. They have not followed through on any that I have seen do far. Including not giving us our blueprints from the human endurance event. Ace, I'm 74% sure you are the only person who expected to receive BPO's from the Human Endurance event. You were definitely the only one complaining about it. |
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Travi Zyg
G I A N T EoN.
54
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Posted - 2013.04.26 14:06:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:When will the Excel sheet with the new skill tree be posted as stated in the podcast? I look forward to reviewing before the release of uprising. This is a myth apparently. We will not be getting any further information. We will just figure it out on May 6. I figured that much. So far CCP does not impress me with their statements. They have not followed through on any that I have seen do far. Including not giving us our blueprints from the human endurance event. I personally like the game or the idea of it. But CCP has to understand that we are not PC players and we console gamers expect our games to work as stated. The game needs action, depth, and clear information that are all available from the console. I have hopes for uprising, but so far the game progresses very slowly. Other console developers are churning out new DLCs including maps, gear, and play expansion at a rate that makes CCP look like they are from the dark ages. If they can not do the same they will end up going the way of the dodo bird... I am willing to wait for them to develop the game, but the communication is frustrating as hell.
im my experience, these devs have way more direct communication with their player base than most others...easily. what more do some of you want short of Wolfman or Foxfour coming to your house for a one on one QA over tea and biscuits? |
Ace Pendrag
Taiyou Corporation
3
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Posted - 2013.04.26 14:14:00 -
[62] - Quote
Travi Zyg wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:When will the Excel sheet with the new skill tree be posted as stated in the podcast? I look forward to reviewing before the release of uprising. This is a myth apparently. We will not be getting any further information. We will just figure it out on May 6. I figured that much. So far CCP does not impress me with their statements. They have not followed through on any that I have seen do far. Including not giving us our blueprints from the human endurance event. I personally like the game or the idea of it. But CCP has to understand that we are not PC players and we console gamers expect our games to work as stated. The game needs action, depth, and clear information that are all available from the console. I have hopes for uprising, but so far the game progresses very slowly. Other console developers are churning out new DLCs including maps, gear, and play expansion at a rate that makes CCP look like they are from the dark ages. If they can not do the same they will end up going the way of the dodo bird... I am willing to wait for them to develop the game, but the communication is frustrating as hell. im my experience, these devs have way more direct communication with their player base than most others...easily. what more do some of you want short of Wolfman or Foxfour coming to your house for a one on one QA over tea and biscuits?
No. I want them to do what they say, cater the console game to console players, and release information that is readily available and useful. We are not PC gamers and do not have the options of people who are. Don't tell me you are going to do something and not do it . It is frustrating and unprofessional.
My corp is small and quite easily managed, but when a full 20% of the players just quit playing it is hard to maintain a player base that actually plays. It will get even worse as we move forward without clear concise information that is followed through on. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
333
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Posted - 2013.04.26 14:14:00 -
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Any ideas when we're getting the skill tree released? |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
100
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Posted - 2013.04.26 15:13:00 -
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If the DEVs hadn't come out many times and stated that they would be making this information available then I'd be waiting patiently. But they got everybody excited stating a few times that it would be released "next week". Then another DEV gets on and asks what we DEV blog everyone is waiting on.
It takes a forum poster finding a post on an Asian playstation forum from CCP to get them to post this one here.
I think it's great that CCP is as open as they are, but in business you don't make promises you can't keep. Either keep your mouth shut or expect your customers to become anxious for what you've stated you can deliver.
And to make one thing clear. I'm not angry with CCP about this. I'm disappointed. It will make me second guess them when they release information. I've seen people mention that our complaining will cause them to stop releasing information. At this point I think them keeping their mouth shut in regards to timelines would be a good idea. They don't have a good track record of meeting timelines. And instead of coming out and saying that things are delayed and apologizing they just go silent. This causes frustration. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
333
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Posted - 2013.04.26 15:26:00 -
[65] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:If the DEVs hadn't come out many times and stated that they would be making this information available then I'd be waiting patiently. But they got everybody excited stating a few times that it would be released "next week". Then another DEV gets on and asks what we DEV blog everyone is waiting on.
It takes a forum poster finding a post on an Asian playstation forum from CCP to get them to post this one here.
I think it's great that CCP is as open as they are, but in business you don't make promises you can't keep. Either keep your mouth shut or expect your customers to become anxious for what you've stated you can deliver.
And to make one thing clear. I'm not angry with CCP about this. I'm disappointed. It will make me second guess them when they release information. I've seen people mention that our complaining will cause them to stop releasing information. At this point I think them keeping their mouth shut in regards to timelines would be a good idea. They don't have a good track record of meeting timelines. And instead of coming out and saying that things are delayed and apologizing they just go silent. This causes frustration. I'm pretty sure they just said it would be available later this month. Given that it's still April no need to rage until at least the 1st of May. |
Aran Abbas
Immobile Infantry
2
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Posted - 2013.04.26 15:43:00 -
[66] - Quote
Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:I'm pretty sure they just said it would be available later this month. Given that it's still April no need to rage until at least the 1st of May.
Alexander the Two Horned, nice name. |
GOTDUST
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.04.28 20:16:00 -
[67] - Quote
3 days to go........grrrrrrrrrrrrr |
From Costa Rica
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
79
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Posted - 2013.04.28 23:53:00 -
[68] - Quote
Do i really need to tell you guys its coming on the 6th? |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
101
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Posted - 2013.04.29 00:36:00 -
[69] - Quote
From Costa Rica wrote:Do i really need to tell you guys its coming on the 6th? Again, for the 100th time. The DEVs were going to release an in depth article explaining all the new skills so that people can start to wrap their head around it all.
I'm over it now, with all the information that is coming out from Fanfest I don't think they even know what's going to be released and when.
I'm just going to roll with it from now on. I can't find the thread on here from the first official podcast they released but it was weeks ago. They stated they would be releasing the info in a separate blog soon. Weeks went by and then they claimed it would come out the following week. It's been a few weeks since then and we've heard nothing.
The hand wringing is from the anxiety created from the lack of communication and the inability to deliver in the time frames they gave. In other words if not for their statements I don't think people would be as frustrated.
At this point I'm just excited for what's coming. It all looks great and I assume they were working on the game instead of info for us. I'm okay with that and I hope the game is a success. |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire
374
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Posted - 2013.04.29 11:22:00 -
[70] - Quote
Ace Pendrag wrote:My corp is small and quite easily managed, but when a full 20% of the players just quit playing it is hard to maintain a player base that actually plays. I think you have unrealistic expectations. 20% churn would be the minimum I would expect, in particular from a smallish Corp.
What about Planetary Conquest? Are you big enough to make a play for a district or ten? If not then people are going move to a Corp that will play in that arena.
I believe that Chromosome was out without an update for too long. Many players, vets in particular, got bored. Some will return after Uprising and their Passive SP will just continue to tick over at 24K per day so they may miss some active SP, and the 3X event, but when the SP reset happens they will be alright.
Your expectations regarding clear, concise information and the rest of that is all blather. No game company does that on any platform and I doubt that they ever will. It is normal to not fix bugs until some DLC is released because that saves money. Fixing bugs is low priority as they already have your money anyway. Maybe some indie gamers do it but none of the larger companies do it as a matter of course. Maybe for a particular game but certainly not for everything they produce.
Lighten up. It is a game. |
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Sparrow 1
Planetary Response Organisation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.30 03:39:00 -
[71] - Quote
i cant wait |
jamstar saa187
Imperial Populicide Legion
5
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:29:00 -
[72] - Quote
Interesting article by IGN.
New vehicles (jet fighter, motor bike), multiple-character passive SP (possibly), and........ a release date!
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/30/dust-514-almost-one-year-on?abthid=517fa3149d374c866d000002 |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
464
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Posted - 2013.04.30 13:01:00 -
[73] - Quote
Release date was announced a few days ago, Friday or Saturday at fanfest. I had the impression from fanfest the speeder(one person hoverbike) and fighter were planned for much later, 18+ months.
The speeder was said to be needed for when the maps were opened up to much larger battleground.
The fighter shown at fanfest was a very early model, a not all there yet work in progress. At the time it was shown things for uprising would have to be already finished for Sony QA to check. I doubt they would show off early draft when finished model is ready. |
GOTDUST
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.05.01 14:44:00 -
[74] - Quote
MAY 1st still no spread sheet! WT!!!!! Bunch of liers. What u gonna wait till AFTER launch? U GUYS SUCK |
Rigor Mordis
Imperial Populicide Legion
29
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:52:00 -
[75] - Quote
Forgive me if this has been addressed elsewhere.
What will happen to our corporations? Do corp control etc. get reset/refunded? If so, will the SP cost be the same as it was? Will we have to dedicate more SP than before to stay at our current numbers? |
GOTDUST
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.05.02 13:30:00 -
[76] - Quote
I BELIEVE only "items" are being refunded. It would be REALLY messed up if they messed w corps. |
Rigor Mordis
Imperial Populicide Legion
29
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Posted - 2013.05.03 05:20:00 -
[77] - Quote
GOTDUST wrote:I BELIEVE only "items" are being refunded. It would be REALLY messed up if they messed w corps.
Well I assumed but I didn't want to assume. I didn't figure they would make us start over there but, I am concerned that if the SP system changes include corp control, and corps keep their existing members but the corpcon SP cost is more, then that, once again screws the new/smaller corps......right? |
Ace Pendrag
Taiyou Corporation
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 01:52:00 -
[78] - Quote
Goric Rumis wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:So far CCP does not impress me with their statements. They have not followed through on any that I have seen do far. Including not giving us our blueprints from the human endurance event. Ace, I'm 74% sure you are the only person who expected to receive BPO's from the Human Endurance event. You were definitely the only one complaining about it.
Just an FYI Goric, I am not the only one complaining about it, just the only one posting about it. And if everyone could read English they should also complain. I am not the one who wrote the blog post... And for the first week it did state "blueprints". |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations
89
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Posted - 2013.05.25 02:41:00 -
[79] - Quote
Ace Pendrag wrote:And for the first week it did state "blueprints". Blueprint COPIES genius, not BPO's. |
Ace Pendrag
Taiyou Corporation
5
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:59:00 -
[80] - Quote
IamI3rian wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:And for the first week it did state "blueprints". Blueprint COPIES genius, not BPO's.
There is no such thing as a blueprint copy in Dust 514, GENIUS... This is not EVE. We have equipment and we have blueprints. Blueprints never run out, they are defined by the blue background in the icon for the equipment. Otherewise they are bought and used up. When they allow us to produce and build our own equipment like in EVE, then we will have blueprint copies. Get your games straight then talk to me about DUST 514. Until then keep your EVE lingo in EVE. It does not exist here just like 99% of the other stuff we are still waiting for. |
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Kilmoor Valor 514
DISTRIBUTOR OF PAIN
14
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Posted - 2013.05.26 10:58:00 -
[81] - Quote
Ace Pendrag wrote:IamI3rian wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:And for the first week it did state "blueprints". Blueprint COPIES genius, not BPO's. There is no such thing as a blueprint copy in Dust 514, GENIUS... This is not EVE. We have equipment and we have blueprints. Blueprints never run out, they are defined by the blue background in the icon for the equipment. Otherewise they are bought and used up. When they allow us to produce and build our own equipment like in EVE, then we will have blueprint copies. Get your games straight then talk to me about DUST 514. Until then keep your EVE lingo in EVE. It does not exist here just like 99% of the other stuff we are still waiting for.
Pay attention, foo- we don't buy items in Dust, we buy BPCs that are assembled into our clone fit when we spawn from a CRU. So 50 copies of dropsuit X is 50 BPC that will be built upon spawn. There is no walk-in closet in the merc quarters for your gear. |
Ace Pendrag
Taiyou Corporation
5
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Posted - 2013.05.30 22:51:00 -
[82] - Quote
Kilmoor Valor 514 wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:IamI3rian wrote:Ace Pendrag wrote:And for the first week it did state "blueprints". Blueprint COPIES genius, not BPO's. There is no such thing as a blueprint copy in Dust 514, GENIUS... This is not EVE. We have equipment and we have blueprints. Blueprints never run out, they are defined by the blue background in the icon for the equipment. Otherewise they are bought and used up. When they allow us to produce and build our own equipment like in EVE, then we will have blueprint copies. Get your games straight then talk to me about DUST 514. Until then keep your EVE lingo in EVE. It does not exist here just like 99% of the other stuff we are still waiting for. Pay attention, foo- we don't buy items in Dust, we buy BPCs that are assembled into our clone fit when we spawn from a CRU. So 50 copies of dropsuit X is 50 BPC that will be built upon spawn. There is no walk-in closet in the merc quarters for your gear.
There is also no copy machine and if it is built upon spawn it is an original assembly. Just because it uses a specific design does not make it a copy. Just like when you buy a car, if you buy an F150 it is not a blueprint copy it is original. Any way you want to look at it the statement said BLUEPRINTS, not blueprint copies.
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JONAHBENHUR
New Eden's Most Wanted Gentlemen's Agreement
2
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:50:00 -
[83] - Quote
The cap of 1sp per wp is okay but why not remove the 1000 limit really takes the want to play out of the game
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