DUST Search - Announcement:Dev Blog: Skill System Changes in Uprising Update

Travi Zyg wrote:

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

Ace Pendrag wrote:

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

Ace Pendrag wrote:

When will the Excel sheet with the new skill tree be posted as stated in the podcast? I look forward to reviewing before the release of uprising.

This is a myth apparently. We will not be getting any further information. We will just figure it out on May 6.

I figured that much. So far CCP does not impress me with their statements. They have not followed through on any that I have seen do far. Including not giving us our blueprints from the human endurance event.

I personally like the game or the idea of it. But CCP has to understand that we are not PC players and we console gamers expect our games to work as stated. The game needs action, depth, and clear information that are all available from the console.

I have hopes for uprising, but so far the game progresses very slowly. Other console developers are churning out new DLCs including maps, gear, and play expansion at a rate that makes CCP look like they are from the dark ages. If they can not do the same they will end up going the way of the dodo bird...

I am willing to wait for them to develop the game, but the communication is frustrating as hell.

im my experience, these devs have way more direct communication with their player base than most others...easily. what more do some of you want short of Wolfman or Foxfour coming to your house for a one on one QA over tea and biscuits?

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Travi Zyg G I A N T EoN. 54	Posted - 2013.04.26 14:06:00 - [61] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Ace Pendrag wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Ace Pendrag wrote: When will the Excel sheet with the new skill tree be posted as stated in the podcast? I look forward to reviewing *before* the release of uprising. This is a myth apparently. We will not be getting any further information. We will just figure it out on May 6. I figured that much. So far CCP does not impress me with their statements. They have not followed through on any that I have seen do far. Including not giving us our blueprints from the human endurance event. I personally like the game or the idea of it. But CCP has to understand that we are not PC players and we console gamers expect our games to work as stated. The game needs action, depth, and clear information that are all available from the console. I have hopes for uprising, but so far the game progresses very slowly. Other console developers are churning out new DLCs including maps, gear, and play expansion at a rate that makes CCP look like they are from the dark ages. If they can not do the same they will end up going the way of the dodo bird... I am willing to wait for them to develop the game, but the communication is frustrating as hell. im my experience, these devs have way more direct communication with their player base than most others...easily. what more do some of you want short of Wolfman or Foxfour coming to your house for a one on one QA over tea and biscuits?
Ace Pendrag Taiyou Corporation 3	Posted - 2013.04.26 14:14:00 - [62] - Quote Travi Zyg wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Ace Pendrag wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Ace Pendrag wrote: When will the Excel sheet with the new skill tree be posted as stated in the podcast? I look forward to reviewing *before* the release of uprising. This is a myth apparently. We will not be getting any further information. We will just figure it out on May 6. I figured that much. So far CCP does not impress me with their statements. They have not followed through on any that I have seen do far. Including not giving us our blueprints from the human endurance event. I personally like the game or the idea of it. But CCP has to understand that we are not PC players and we console gamers expect our games to work as stated. The game needs action, depth, and clear information that are all available from the console. I have hopes for uprising, but so far the game progresses very slowly. Other console developers are churning out new DLCs including maps, gear, and play expansion at a rate that makes CCP look like they are from the dark ages. If they can not do the same they will end up going the way of the dodo bird... I am willing to wait for them to develop the game, but the communication is frustrating as hell. im my experience, these devs have way more direct communication with their player base than most others...easily. what more do some of you want short of Wolfman or Foxfour coming to your house for a one on one QA over tea and biscuits? No. I want them to do what they say, cater the console game to console players, and release information that is readily available and useful. We are not PC gamers and do not have the options of people who are. Don't tell me you are going to do something and not do it . It is frustrating and unprofessional. My corp is small and quite easily managed, but when a full 20% of the players just quit playing it is hard to maintain a player base that actually plays. It will get even worse as we move forward without clear concise information that is followed through on.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 333	Posted - 2013.04.26 14:14:00 - [63] - Quote Any ideas when we're getting the skill tree released?
Thor Odinson42 Planetary Response Organization 100	Posted - 2013.04.26 15:13:00 - [64] - Quote If the DEVs hadn't come out many times and stated that they would be making this information available then I'd be waiting patiently. But they got everybody excited stating a few times that it would be released "next week". Then another DEV gets on and asks what we DEV blog everyone is waiting on. It takes a forum poster finding a post on an Asian playstation forum from CCP to get them to post this one here. I think it's great that CCP is as open as they are, but in business you don't make promises you can't keep. Either keep your mouth shut or expect your customers to become anxious for what you've stated you can deliver. And to make one thing clear. I'm not angry with CCP about this. I'm disappointed. It will make me second guess them when they release information. I've seen people mention that our complaining will cause them to stop releasing information. At this point I think them keeping their mouth shut in regards to timelines would be a good idea. They don't have a good track record of meeting timelines. And instead of coming out and saying that things are delayed and apologizing they just go silent. This causes frustration.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 333	Posted - 2013.04.26 15:26:00 - [65] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: If the DEVs hadn't come out many times and stated that they would be making this information available then I'd be waiting patiently. But they got everybody excited stating a few times that it would be released "next week". Then another DEV gets on and asks what we DEV blog everyone is waiting on. It takes a forum poster finding a post on an Asian playstation forum from CCP to get them to post this one here. I think it's great that CCP is as open as they are, but in business you don't make promises you can't keep. Either keep your mouth shut or expect your customers to become anxious for what you've stated you can deliver. And to make one thing clear. I'm not angry with CCP about this. I'm disappointed. It will make me second guess them when they release information. I've seen people mention that our complaining will cause them to stop releasing information. At this point I think them keeping their mouth shut in regards to timelines would be a good idea. They don't have a good track record of meeting timelines. And instead of coming out and saying that things are delayed and apologizing they just go silent. This causes frustration. I'm pretty sure they just said it would be available later this month. Given that it's still April no need to rage until at least the 1st of May.
Aran Abbas Immobile Infantry 2	Posted - 2013.04.26 15:43:00 - [66] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: I'm pretty sure they just said it would be available later this month. Given that it's still April no need to rage until at least the 1st of May. Alexander the Two Horned, nice name.
GOTDUST Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.04.28 20:16:00 - [67] - Quote 3 days to go........grrrrrrrrrrrrr
From Costa Rica Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS. 79	Posted - 2013.04.28 23:53:00 - [68] - Quote Do i really need to tell you guys its coming on the 6th?
Thor Odinson42 Planetary Response Organization 101	Posted - 2013.04.29 00:36:00 - [69] - Quote From Costa Rica wrote: Do i really need to tell you guys its coming on the 6th? Again, for the 100th time. The DEVs were going to release an in depth article explaining all the new skills so that people can start to wrap their head around it all. I'm over it now, with all the information that is coming out from Fanfest I don't think they even know what's going to be released and when. I'm just going to roll with it from now on. I can't find the thread on here from the first official podcast they released but it was weeks ago. They stated they would be releasing the info in a separate blog soon. Weeks went by and then they claimed it would come out the following week. It's been a few weeks since then and we've heard nothing. The hand wringing is from the anxiety created from the lack of communication and the inability to deliver in the time frames they gave. In other words if not for their statements I don't think people would be as frustrated. At this point I'm just excited for what's coming. It all looks great and I assume they were working on the game instead of info for us. I'm okay with that and I hope the game is a success.
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire 374	Posted - 2013.04.29 11:22:00 - [70] - Quote Ace Pendrag wrote: My corp is small and quite easily managed, but when a full 20% of the players just quit playing it is hard to maintain a player base that actually plays. I think you have unrealistic expectations. 20% churn would be the minimum I would expect, in particular from a smallish Corp. What about Planetary Conquest? Are you big enough to make a play for a district or ten? If not then people are going move to a Corp that will play in that arena. I believe that Chromosome was out without an update for too long. Many players, vets in particular, got bored. Some will return after Uprising and their Passive SP will just continue to tick over at 24K per day so they may miss some active SP, and the 3X event, but when the SP reset happens they will be alright. Your expectations regarding clear, concise information and the rest of that is all blather. No game company does that on any platform and I doubt that they ever will. It is normal to not fix bugs until some DLC is released because that saves money. Fixing bugs is low priority as they already have your money anyway. Maybe some indie gamers do it but none of the larger companies do it as a matter of course. Maybe for a particular game but certainly not for everything they produce. Lighten up. It is a game.

Sparrow 1 Planetary Response Organisation 0	Posted - 2013.04.30 03:39:00 - [71] - Quote i cant wait
jamstar saa187 Imperial Populicide Legion 5	Posted - 2013.04.30 12:29:00 - [72] - Quote Interesting article by IGN. New vehicles (jet fighter, motor bike), multiple-character passive SP (possibly), and........ a release date! http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/30/dust-514-almost-one-year-on?abthid=517fa3149d374c866d000002
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 464	Posted - 2013.04.30 13:01:00 - [73] - Quote Release date was announced a few days ago, Friday or Saturday at fanfest. I had the impression from fanfest the speeder(one person hoverbike) and fighter were planned for much later, 18+ months. The speeder was said to be needed for when the maps were opened up to much larger battleground. The fighter shown at fanfest was a very early model, a not all there yet work in progress. At the time it was shown things for uprising would have to be already finished for Sony QA to check. I doubt they would show off early draft when finished model is ready.
GOTDUST Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.05.01 14:44:00 - [74] - Quote MAY 1st still no spread sheet! WT!!!!! Bunch of liers. What u gonna wait till AFTER launch? U GUYS SUCK
Rigor Mordis Imperial Populicide Legion 29	Posted - 2013.05.01 16:52:00 - [75] - Quote Forgive me if this has been addressed elsewhere. What will happen to our corporations? Do corp control etc. get reset/refunded? If so, will the SP cost be the same as it was? Will we have to dedicate more SP than before to stay at our current numbers?
GOTDUST Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.05.02 13:30:00 - [76] - Quote I BELIEVE only "items" are being refunded. It would be REALLY messed up if they messed w corps.
Rigor Mordis Imperial Populicide Legion 29	Posted - 2013.05.03 05:20:00 - [77] - Quote GOTDUST wrote: I BELIEVE only "items" are being refunded. It would be REALLY messed up if they messed w corps. Well I assumed but I didn't want to assume. I didn't figure they would make us start over there but, I am concerned that if the SP system changes include corp control, and corps keep their existing members but the corpcon SP cost is more, then that, once again screws the new/smaller corps......right?
Ace Pendrag Taiyou Corporation 5	Posted - 2013.05.25 01:52:00 - [78] - Quote Goric Rumis wrote: Ace Pendrag wrote: So far CCP does not impress me with their statements. They have not followed through on any that I have seen do far. Including not giving us our blueprints from the human endurance event. Ace, I'm 74% sure you are the only person who expected to receive BPO's from the Human Endurance event. You were definitely the only one complaining about it. Just an FYI Goric, I am not the only one complaining about it, just the only one posting about it. And if everyone could read English they should also complain. I am not the one who wrote the blog post... And for the first week it did state "blueprints".
IamI3rian OSG Planetary Operations 89	Posted - 2013.05.25 02:41:00 - [79] - Quote Ace Pendrag wrote: And for the first week it did state "blueprints". Blueprint COPIES genius, not BPO's.
Ace Pendrag Taiyou Corporation 5	Posted - 2013.05.26 03:59:00 - [80] - Quote IamI3rian wrote: Ace Pendrag wrote: And for the first week it did state "blueprints". Blueprint COPIES genius, not BPO's. There is no such thing as a blueprint copy in Dust 514, GENIUS... This is not EVE. We have equipment and we have blueprints. Blueprints never run out, they are defined by the blue background in the icon for the equipment. Otherewise they are bought and used up. When they allow us to produce and build our own equipment like in EVE, then we will have blueprint copies. Get your games straight then talk to me about DUST 514. Until then keep your EVE lingo in EVE. It does not exist here just like 99% of the other stuff we are still waiting for.

Kilmoor Valor 514 DISTRIBUTOR OF PAIN 14	Posted - 2013.05.26 10:58:00 - [81] - Quote Ace Pendrag wrote: IamI3rian wrote: Ace Pendrag wrote: And for the first week it did state "blueprints". Blueprint COPIES genius, not BPO's. There is no such thing as a blueprint copy in Dust 514, GENIUS... This is not EVE. We have equipment and we have blueprints. Blueprints never run out, they are defined by the blue background in the icon for the equipment. Otherewise they are bought and used up. When they allow us to produce and build our own equipment like in EVE, then we will have blueprint copies. Get your games straight then talk to me about DUST 514. Until then keep your EVE lingo in EVE. It does not exist here just like 99% of the other stuff we are still waiting for. Pay attention, foo- we don't buy items in Dust, we buy BPCs that are assembled into our clone fit when we spawn from a CRU. So 50 copies of dropsuit X is 50 BPC that will be built upon spawn. There is no walk-in closet in the merc quarters for your gear.
Ace Pendrag Taiyou Corporation 5	Posted - 2013.05.30 22:51:00 - [82] - Quote Kilmoor Valor 514 wrote: Ace Pendrag wrote: IamI3rian wrote: Ace Pendrag wrote: And for the first week it did state "blueprints". Blueprint COPIES genius, not BPO's. There is no such thing as a blueprint copy in Dust 514, GENIUS... This is not EVE. We have equipment and we have blueprints. Blueprints never run out, they are defined by the blue background in the icon for the equipment. Otherewise they are bought and used up. When they allow us to produce and build our own equipment like in EVE, then we will have blueprint copies. Get your games straight then talk to me about DUST 514. Until then keep your EVE lingo in EVE. It does not exist here just like 99% of the other stuff we are still waiting for. Pay attention, foo- we don't buy items in Dust, we buy BPCs that are assembled into our clone fit when we spawn from a CRU. So 50 copies of dropsuit X is 50 BPC that will be built upon spawn. There is no walk-in closet in the merc quarters for your gear. There is also no copy machine and if it is built upon spawn it is an original assembly. Just because it uses a specific design does not make it a copy. Just like when you buy a car, if you buy an F150 it is not a blueprint copy it is original. Any way you want to look at it the statement said BLUEPRINTS, not blueprint copies. "Thank you for your support"
JONAHBENHUR New Eden's Most Wanted Gentlemen's Agreement 2	Posted - 2013.05.31 09:50:00 - [83] - Quote The cap of 1sp per wp is okay but why not remove the 1000 limit really takes the want to play out of the game


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