In my opinion, since reality is based on the subjective perception (senses) all realities are constructed within the mind, whilst we share some commonalities my reality is vastly different to anyone elses. Reality is an illusion, much like free will, and is a figment of my imagination.

No, New Eden is not real. Neither are these forums and neither are you.

We are all rays of light in the memory dust of the great snail turtle Shebulba as it travels the light regions of Utmosa on its venture to Watala for the tilling of the star fragments.

This right here. This entire discussion. This entire concept laid out in front of me on this forum. This is exactly why I keep playing EVE and Dust. I cannot weigh in, because I'm not sure where I stand on this issue as of yet, but thank you all for giving my brain something to mull over for the next few weeks as I use this thread to explain to people why video games can be considered art. Fly safe, shoot first, and keep your clones stocked. 07

Down this path lies madness. Don't stray too far into your mind, my friends. Our brain is a untameable beast which we have merely trapped in a cave of bone. It can't get out and engulf us, but if we go in...

Go in... I dare you

...chicken

I keep many of my doors firmly locked, because the things I hide behind them are grotesque beyond imagination.

GÇ£Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."

BTW: dreams are real too... All of them...

as I use this thread to explain to people why video games can be considered art.

This role is better served by Journey.

If you are a responsible PS3 owner, you should already have a copy of the game. If not, you're doing it wrong.

you sir get a +1

Journey made me cry when figured out what happened at the end. Only Ico and Shadow of the Colossus had a bigger impact.
God Damn, those games.... *sniff*

I just had a discussion about New Eden being real or not real with a co worker. I said that New Eden is real but not tangible and she says it is just a game. Yes, we play a game and it is not a possession that you can touch but does that make it less real? All of our actions in New Eden have a connection to everyone who plays and every item is unique. There may be copies but there is only that one item and if it is destroyed it is gone forever. I asked her if it is more or less real than a digital song, book, movie or even bank account. Paper money only has value if you believe it has value and other people agree. So, do we fly fake internet spaceships and shoot fake internet tanks or are they real items that have real value?

Oh God! Oh God!OhGod!OhGodOhGodOhGodOhGod!
*runs away screaming*

Played it with my daughter. We both cried at the end...

I keep many of my doors firmly locked, because the things I hide behind them are grotesque beyond imagination.

GÇ£Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."

It will be real

The Singularity is nearly upon us

Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration GÇô that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather.

Fear not Uncle Google knows everything
"In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming"
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ph'nglui_mglw'nafh_Cthulhu_R'lyeh_wgah'nagl_fhtagn

BTW: dreams are real too... All of them...

(...)I got eaten by a dragon once in one of my dreams...

I'm surprised nobody brought this up, after all it was a meme in eve for a longer while than military experts.

"Eve is Real"

No. New Eden is imaginary.



So, being fond of math. I would argue that New Eden is just as real as Imaginary numbers.

I just had a discussion about New Eden being real or not real with a co worker. I said that New Eden is real but not tangible and she says it is just a game. Yes, we play a game and it is not a possession that you can touch but does that make it less real? All of our actions in New Eden have a connection to everyone who plays and every item is unique. There may be copies but there is only that one item and if it is destroyed it is gone forever. I asked her if it is more or less real than a digital song, book, movie or even bank account. Paper money only has value if you believe it has value and other people agree. So, do we fly fake internet spaceships and shoot fake internet tanks or are they real items that have real value?

Basically sounds like a classical Plato v Aristotle argument. You being Plato.

This is going to hurt, but...

Step away from the screen.
Find the nearest door that will allow you access to the sky.
Look around.
Touch stuff.

Now debate the reality of Intergalactic Warbarges and your involvement with them.

And then go find the woman that talked nerdistic (pothead) philosophy with you and make something happen.