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Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 7	Posted - 2013.04.12 11:51:00 - [1] - Quote Hello CCP, I own a Panasonic P65ST50 (65 inch plasma 2012 model) that I play on and she's a beaut! The picture quality on the Panasonic plasmas is the connoisseurs choice in a world owerflown with cheap LED LCDs with poor black levels and overblown colors; my model was selected as the best HDTV last year by the wire cutter (http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-big-tv-is-the-panasonic-st50/). Now this is not a rant about LCDs and how awesome my TV is (there are more expensive and better models out there like the VT50 and this years new models, ST60, VT60 and ZT60) but a platform on which to build up my arguments. I'm sure you're aware of the main drawback of plasma technology: image retention (or screen burn-in as some people know it). Plasma burn-in is something of the past though, if you use pixel orbiter and set the contrast to logical levels you can't permanently damage the display; it would take days of static images on max contrast to even come close. There is however image retention which can stick around for minutes, hours, and even days! While playing Dust 514 for many hours I've noticed that the HUD can leave image retention of the bottom left and right information panels (HP & ammo) plus some slight traces of the map information at the top left. My solution so far has been to run slides after playing to get it off, this can however take hours only to get IR back the next day after playing. My question to you is if you can please add a setting to the transparency of the HUD? This would greatly diminish IR of the static parts on the screen. There are many people out there with these awesome displays and you can easily help us by adding this functionality. There is already transparency in the HUD and props for that, but we need more! Thank you
Snaps Tremor The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 61	Posted - 2013.04.12 21:41:00 - [2] - Quote Same issue, huge pain in the ass. The ammo/health circles retained so bad I had to bring my monitor through to play Dust a week ago, and they're still visible on-screen. You can temporarily get around it by changing the screen size, but it just burns the bright GUI into a different part of the screen and also further ruins the already dodgy image quality, so it's not much of a fix. Throw us a bone CCP some people like black levels.
Citpaan Hacos BetaMax. CRONOS. 32	Posted - 2013.04.12 22:06:00 - [3] - Quote Not just plasma, I'm getting some retention on on a LCD screen as well.
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 7	Posted - 2013.04.13 01:40:00 - [4] - Quote Wow, that's really strange Citpaan Hacos! Computer monitors are much better suited for these kinds of games, but since Dust 514 is a console game CCP really needs to put extra consideration into the static elements of the HUD. Transparency is the easy fix, but there are also other possibilities like displaying more info on the weapons themselves (ammo) and health status only when needed (display nothing when at full health).
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3403	Posted - 2013.04.13 09:04:00 - [5] - Quote I don't have any issues, but a HUD transparency setting would be great.
fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 10	Posted - 2013.04.13 16:05:00 - [6] - Quote Same issue hear with image retention. Posted about a transparency level for the HUD awhile back hopefully we can get some attention to this. As well mine is a Panasonic plasma, it will fade but you need 3 days of other programming playing. Let's keep this one up on the to do list, PLEASE CCP
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 4	Posted - 2013.04.14 04:26:00 - [7] - Quote Thanks for bringing this up, I have a panny plasma as well. It's come up in other games as well. It's always good to have some settings to mitigate the burn-effect..
fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 10	Posted - 2013.04.14 16:15:00 - [8] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: Thanks for bringing this up, I have a panny plasma as well. It's come up in other games as well. It's always good to have some settings to mitigate the burn-effect.. What do you usually use if I may ask? I use the pixel flipper for a few hours, then run some file I found on the internet that has different colour swirls then a checkboard fade in and out, seems to do the trick but after a 6 hour session I need to run it for a few days. Real PIA if I wanna watch a hockey game. I will notice smudging on the ice where the ammo and health are found.
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 9	Posted - 2013.04.14 16:21:00 - [9] - Quote There is a built in B&W scrolling bar on my Panasonic P65ST50, you can find it under Menu - Picture - Advanced Settings. That's all you need to get rid of IR, make sure you run it on full contrast.
James TrendalI BetaMax. CRONOS. 12	Posted - 2013.04.14 22:52:00 - [10] - Quote I have a usb stick with a video i found online of a scrolling black and white bar. It works great for IR. If CCP could add even a remove hud option (Sort of like hardcore option) where it removes all info on the screen apart from the map maybe that would be a great idea.

Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 9	Posted - 2013.04.15 14:16:00 - [11] - Quote I don't know about that, fading the HUD when not "active" would be better; once you start firing the ammo HUD should intensify, same with taking hits or getting repaired. I'm confident CCP can sit down and come up with some neat ideas.
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 11	Posted - 2013.05.04 10:10:00 - [12] - Quote Dev feedback?
Private Shep ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse 0	Posted - 2013.05.07 06:51:00 - [13] - Quote Looks like those of us that enjoy deep blacks and rich colors are still S.O.L. Please add a hud transparency setting or at least make the hud go down when running or something to that nature. It looks awesome the way it is. but would be way more beneficial for those of us with plasma television sets if you would change it, not even as a whole, a setting to change it individually would be great. I can only spend two skirmish matches at a time as of right now. then i have to turn on anti-image retention software for an hour. Which is really a hinderance to such great gameplay.
Citpaan Hacos BetaMax. CRONOS. 39	Posted - 2013.05.07 08:06:00 - [14] - Quote Yes, it's gotten much worse with this build. I was getting data from the market screen, and I very quickly noticed the ISK/AUR numbers getting shadowed into other screens. Same with the chat squares and planet info.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 4	Posted - 2013.05.07 08:41:00 - [15] - Quote After several weeks i had to downgrade to a 24" LED due to burn-in on our panasonic plasma. After 3-4 weeks the hp and ammo circles as well as the tacnet radar had gone away. Just be sure to Max your brightness and contrast before running the anti-image retention bar. It will help a lot. Fact is, that bright, stationary hud will get your panasonic plasma sooner or later.

CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 827	Posted - 2013.05.07 08:46:00 - [16] - Quote Hello, Could you please tell us which PS3 you are using? How old the PS3 is, if you have that information available. Thank you!

Citpaan Hacos BetaMax. CRONOS. 39	Posted - 2013.05.07 09:21:00 - [17] - Quote I'm using a slim model, couple of years old, I forget the exact date.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 60	Posted - 2013.05.07 10:38:00 - [18] - Quote I too Have a Plasma and would love to see this feature implemented. Long play sessions sometimes induce slight ghosting of the HUD, most notably the Shield and Armor indicator and Ammo indicator. I am playing on a 2011 model Slim, HDMI output obviously. Not to be rude but I fail to see how ps3 console model type would have anything to do with this issue. It's not a bug, it's a problem inherent to long duration standing images on a plasma display. We're asking for the option to adjust HUD opacity, not a bug fix. I understand it's not something to expect overnight but it'd be nice to have the option eventually.
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire 407	Posted - 2013.05.07 11:22:00 - [19] - Quote Citpaan Hacos wrote: I'm using a slim model, couple of years old, I forget the exact date. Look at the model number on the back of the machine. That will tell them everything they need to know about any PS3.
fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. Gentlemen's Agreement 12	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:21:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello, Could you please tell us which PS3 you are using? How old the PS3 is, if you have that information available. Thank you! Using a first gen PS3 fat, bought it when it first came out 001 model. Ammo and health leaving bad ghosting, notice it when watching Hockey or solid blue, white screen. The health bars for the MCC are starting to work in too. The plasma is a Panasonic 50u50. As well, the new build doesn't fill my screen vertically (perfect horizontally) I have about on inch or two on the top and bottom, like watching a widescreen movie. Other in my corp have noticed this as well on their tv's.

Hana-Maru Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 43	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:26:00 - [21] - Quote ^ same issues. Using 1st gen fat ps3
Snaps Tremor The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 158	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:49:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello, Could you please tell us which PS3 you are using? How old the PS3 is, if you have that information available. Thank you! The model of PS3 has nothing to do with a problem that is literally just a static, full brightness ring being displayed in the same place of the screen for hours at a time.
Private Shep Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.05.07 21:18:00 - [23] - Quote i am using a 2012 slim model. got it on black friday 2012 brand new. I got my 50 inch panasonic plasma tv the same day, also brand new. I have it hooked up with hdmi connection. I notice it most on the shield/ armor circle. But also quite noticable now on the ammo circle, and slight image retention from the minimap circle.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 94	Posted - 2013.05.07 22:40:00 - [24] - Quote I'm using a launch fat PS3 with a 55in. Panny plasma VT-series as I recall. It's mostly a brightness/contrast thing. In games that support it, you can either toggle the HUD off, or use a HUD that only lights up when you're get damaged (health pops up them) or what have you. Games that animate the HUD or have less HUD/background contrast have fewer issues too. Games with a fixed and bright HUD will leave burn-in, and sometimes have you using anti-retention features after or between sessions (or just cutting them short). Ideally we could individually toggle transparency or appearance of individual elements of the HUD. Things like the weapon/swap screen are only up for a second, and don't really matter. The ammo, etc. displays are the ones that leave a mark. Being able to toggle feedback elements would also be nice (the amount the screen lights up when the Forge Gun is charged and holding or you're taking damage) would also be nice, but that's not plasma-specific.
Citpaan Hacos BetaMax. CRONOS. 40	Posted - 2013.05.08 20:21:00 - [25] - Quote This is getting a bit ridiculous, I just switched to a blank screen and I had image retention of furniture and light fixtures from my MQ, from only about ten minutes of talking with my corp.

CCP Photon Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.05.09 05:49:00 - [26] - Quote Thanks for raising this problem - it has been noted and we will bear it in mind in future improvements to the HUD system. CCP Photon

Citpaan Hacos BetaMax. CRONOS. 40	Posted - 2013.05.09 06:06:00 - [27] - Quote Thank you. And to note, I have no complaints of what the game elements look like, the color and design you've guys have is gorgeous, and I'd hate to see it go for everyone because it's rough on some of our screens. But a IR safe mode option, there for any of those at risk, is a good one to have. (And remember, it's not just the HUD, but anything fairly static, like the ISK/AUR/SP info, and even menu box lines. In the MQ, a delayed start automatic camera rotation when idle could be an easyish fix.) I know you have a lot of things to work on, especially stuff inside matches, but the sooner this is in, the sooner I know I can rest easy about hardware that would be a bit onerous to have to replace.
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 15	Posted - 2013.05.10 12:22:00 - [28] - Quote Gotta love CCP, they have a guy named PHOTON to take care of this; we couldn't ask for anything more :) Thanks everyone for bumping this issue; the forums really do work!
Step-Away-Slowly ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse 5	Posted - 2013.05.30 05:57:00 - [29] - Quote Please fix this. At least make a color change for the HUD available. Preferably a black one to counter the bright blue that is already there. I have a new plasma tv and after only an hour i notice a slight image retention from the bright blue HUD.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 469	Posted - 2013.05.30 11:39:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Photon wrote: Thanks for raising this problem - it has been noted and we will bear it in mind in future improvements to the HUD system. CCP Photon I realize this is an accessibility/usability sort of issue, and that game mechanics ultimately come first. Thanks for looking into it.

Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 26	Posted - 2013.05.30 11:49:00 - [31] - Quote I've connected the PS3 to my iMac for the time being, I just can't take it anymore. This issue can seriously affect your display, be very careful; CCP please prioritize this.
Step-Away-Slowly ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse 5	Posted - 2013.05.30 22:11:00 - [32] - Quote Alex Smoke wrote: I've connected the PS3 to my iMac for the time being, I just can't take it anymore. This issue can seriously affect your display, be very careful; CCP please prioritize this. How did you connect the two? i have an hp and the hdmi port only works for hdmi out. :/
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 27	Posted - 2013.05.31 09:16:00 - [33] - Quote You need this adapter (only works on pre-thunderbolt iMac): http://www.tradera.com/dr-bott-digital-video-link-for-imac-macbook-xbox-ps3--auktion_170704_183649680 Send me a message ingame for more information.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.06.17 18:53:00 - [34] - Quote i'm getting this aswell and ive only been playing for around 3 weeks,its so bad the image retention lasts for days,ive had scrolling bar running all last night and you can still see it,i hope this is fixed soon,if not ill probably be moving on .shame though as i was enjoying game atm .
phakk Molon Labe. League of Infamy 42	Posted - 2013.06.17 21:08:00 - [35] - Quote My .02 isk... I'm running a 51 in. Samsung 3D capable plasma, and any IR I've had is very minimal. It does exist, but not to the extent I'm reading about here, and generally goes away in less than an hour after switching to video content. This TV is also hooked up to my gaming computer that runs the rest of the home systems. No windows OS burn in at all. Mostly gaming IR, like the Dust HUD. Got my vote for a transparency option as well. Just out of curiosity, are you Panny guys running 3D plasma sets? I've read elsewhere that 3D plasma sets are less likely to have issues, even if you're running a standard HD refresh rate.. can't remember why that was stated, or where I found that article tho.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.06.17 21:37:00 - [36] - Quote Yeah Phakk my panny is 3D,and up until now I've never really had much problem with it , I'm even playing game ATM on lower contrast and brightness settings(in game mode) just to try and cut it out a bit , but it doesn't help to be honest, 30 mins in game and retention is back , as I have already posted I had scrolling bar running all last night and it still there, it is going but will prob need another night of scrolling bar to move completely , but it will come back once I play again. I really hope this is sorted , as I'm really enjoying game ATM
fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 29	Posted - 2013.06.17 21:48:00 - [37] - Quote Mine is not 3D but have heard the same things that they are less prone (should have spend the 150 more), have reverted to an old Hitachi 51 rear projection HD TV. Its goods to see they are looking into it. As far as the others trying to get the retention out, the best luck I have had is to run the pixel flipper on the Disney WoW dvd and not play on that tv till they lessen the brightness or come up with something to dull the white. Though I do like the HUD on this game my OCD wont allow me to play on that tv knowing it will be there. Its basically all gone and can only be noticed on a dull white back ground. As well, the black bars on the top and bottom aren't going to help the image retention either. I have faith it will all be fixed in the end thanks for responding PHOTON.
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 31	Posted - 2013.06.18 12:28:00 - [38] - Quote This should be a high priority problem because it stops people from actually playing the game, status quo CCP Photon?
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.06.18 20:51:00 - [39] - Quote Any updates on this issue ? I know ccp photon replied over a month ago, but I do feel this really needs sorted Sorry to keep bumping but don't want it to get lost.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.06.19 22:57:00 - [40] - Quote Another bump to stop this getting lost, I'll stop if and when we get an update, I know there's loads of other things that need sorted, but I feel this one is important aswell

Snaps Tremor the tritan industries RISE of LEGION 287	Posted - 2013.06.20 01:59:00 - [41] - Quote If a plasma is the only display you have, a crappy temporary fix for this is resizing your screen from the options menu every now and then to change up the area affected. It doesn't move it far, the image quality suffers, and if you're hammering Dust to cap each week it's not going to be enough to stop the rings burning into your display, just slow it down some. Not really a fix at all!
PlanetSide2Bomber Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.20 03:20:00 - [42] - Quote Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year Insane Infantry Push Amazing Night Battle Night to Day Canyon Battle Intense Field Battle Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Factions Explained
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.20 21:14:00 - [43] - Quote Sorry, but another bump Is there any updates on this issue ?
Breltair Tresslan Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.21 16:15:00 - [44] - Quote Hmmmmm...the easyest way to fix the problem ist simply not playing this game till ccp solve the hud question. I can play half an hour and i see ghost huds...it happens that quick, cause the hud ist white, the plasmacells have to work on their highest levels when showing white...its deathly, and i do not wanna buy a new tv, and i do not wanna play on my lcd pc monitor with my ps3 sorry...so....i cant play actually Best option for me is to hide all the menue stuff while changing nothing, that will bring a better game expirience too, or make them clear, also very good...
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.21 17:34:00 - [45] - Quote Breltair Tresslan wrote: Hmmmmm...the easyest way to fix the problem ist simply not playing this game till ccp solve the hud question. I can play half an hour and i see ghost huds...it happens that quick, cause the hud ist white, the plasmacells have to work on their highest levels when showing white...its deathly, and i do not wanna buy a new tv, and i do not wanna play on my lcd pc monitor with my ps3 sorry...so....i cant play actually Best option for me is to hide all the menue stuff while changing nothing, that will bring a better game expirience too, or make them clear, also very good... Surely this shouldn't be so hard to fix, but until it is fixed I won't be playing again either Would be good if he could get an update on this, but I guess ccp to busy with other things
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.22 18:51:00 - [46] - Quote Another day , and still no update Another bump
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:56:00 - [47] - Quote Is anything being done about this ? Or maybe it's time just to delete this game from my ps3, I refuse to play ATM because of this, I'm no expert but surely this should take this long to fix it's been about 6 weeks since CCP Photon posted on here , and no update since guess its just easy to ignore and hope problem goes away itself. Shame though as I was enjoying this game.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.25 10:07:00 - [48] - Quote When will this be sorted (if ever) so I can start playing again ?
Mitchman 514 BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 26	Posted - 2013.06.25 12:00:00 - [49] - Quote Same issue here. I don't see what model of the PS3 matters for this image retention. Just make it possible to set it to 80-90% transparency and it should be much better.
HyperionsThunder Onslaught Initiative 11	Posted - 2013.06.26 13:44:00 - [50] - Quote I'm running a Panasonic plasma as well - same issue (and my girlfriend is going to chop off my head if the IR stays). I've messed with the TV's video settings a little bit and it might help. Turn your cell light all the way down, and change the contrast a bit. The game gets pretty dark, but it might help!

Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 31	Posted - 2013.06.29 08:36:00 - [51] - Quote My IR has lasted for a month now, only slowly getting better; play at your own risk.
fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 39	Posted - 2013.06.29 12:20:00 - [52] - Quote I haven't played on my plasma in 3 months. The IR is barely visible, its safe to say I have slight burn in. Come on ccp I enjoy your game but need a patch to play it on my good tv :(
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.30 10:56:00 - [53] - Quote Can anyone let us know if this will be fixed with next update that is due ? I want to play again but I won't until its sorted Until then I'm afk until boosters finish (sorry I hate doing this) but image retention is a big problem for me
C-A-L-C-I-F-E-R M.E.R.C. Elite 0	Posted - 2013.07.01 02:36:00 - [54] - Quote same issue. burn in hud. please give transparency settings and or use effects to make the gauges disappear or flash when health full or shield recharge initializing. Map can flash off momentarily when getting in and out of vehicles and ammo can disappear when full or reloading.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.07.01 11:58:00 - [55] - Quote I guess the silence answers my question, it won't be fixed with next update thanks for keeping us updated on this
Vavilia Lysenko Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 89	Posted - 2013.07.01 17:50:00 - [56] - Quote Alex Smoke wrote: Hello CCP, I own a Panasonic P65ST50 (65 inch plasma 2012 model) that I play on and she's a beaut! The picture quality on the Panasonic plasmas is the connoisseurs choice in a world owerflown with cheap LED LCDs with poor black levels and overblown colors; my model was selected as the best HDTV last year by the wire cutter (http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-big-tv-is-the-panasonic-st50/). Now this is not a rant about LCDs and how awesome my TV is (there are more expensive and better models out there like the VT50 and this years new models, ST60, VT60 and ZT60) but a platform on which to build up my arguments. I'm sure you're aware of the main drawback of plasma technology: image retention (or screen burn-in as some people know it). Plasma burn-in is something of the past though, if you use pixel orbiter and set the contrast to logical levels you can't permanently damage the display; it would take days of static images on max contrast to even come close. There is however image retention which can stick around for minutes, hours, and even days! While playing Dust 514 for many hours I've noticed that the HUD can leave image retention of the bottom left and right information panels (HP & ammo) plus some slight traces of the map information at the top left. My solution so far has been to run slides after playing to get it off, this can however take hours only to get IR back the next day after playing. My question to you is if you can please add a setting to the transparency of the HUD? This would greatly diminish IR of the static parts on the screen. There are many people out there with these awesome displays and you can easily help us by adding this functionality. There is already transparency in the HUD and props for that, but we need more! Thank you Set the pixel orbiter to "On" not "Auto" this should reduce the IR
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.07.01 20:34:00 - [57] - Quote Vavilia Lysenko wrote: Alex Smoke wrote: Hello CCP, I own a Panasonic P65ST50 (65 inch plasma 2012 model) that I play on and she's a beaut! The picture quality on the Panasonic plasmas is the connoisseurs choice in a world owerflown with cheap LED LCDs with poor black levels and overblown colors; my model was selected as the best HDTV last year by the wire cutter (http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-big-tv-is-the-panasonic-st50/). Now this is not a rant about LCDs and how awesome my TV is (there are more expensive and better models out there like the VT50 and this years new models, ST60, VT60 and ZT60) but a platform on which to build up my arguments. I'm sure you're aware of the main drawback of plasma technology: image retention (or screen burn-in as some people know it). Plasma burn-in is something of the past though, if you use pixel orbiter and set the contrast to logical levels you can't permanently damage the display; it would take days of static images on max contrast to even come close. There is however image retention which can stick around for minutes, hours, and even days! While playing Dust 514 for many hours I've noticed that the HUD can leave image retention of the bottom left and right information panels (HP & ammo) plus some slight traces of the map information at the top left. My solution so far has been to run slides after playing to get it off, this can however take hours only to get IR back the next day after playing. My question to you is if you can please add a setting to the transparency of the HUD? This would greatly diminish IR of the static parts on the screen. There are many people out there with these awesome displays and you can easily help us by adding this functionality. There is already transparency in the HUD and props for that, but we need more! Thank you Set the pixel orbiter to "On" not "Auto" this should reduce the IR This was first thing I done when I started getting image retention , it didn't help
fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 40	Posted - 2013.07.01 21:47:00 - [58] - Quote It makes ir blurry lol
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.07.02 17:54:00 - [59] - Quote Has this been fixed in this update ? I won't be home for few hrs to check myself , maybe someone could post to let us know
fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 40	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:24:00 - [60] - Quote Checked this morning, did not see anything in options. Maybe 1.3

apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:43:00 - [61] - Quote fixitgd wrote: Checked this morning, did not see anything in options. Maybe 1.3 Thanks, guess I won't be playing properly until fixed(if I wait that long) meantime ill use up my boosters afk This can't be to hard to fix, but guess ignoring the problem is easier.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.07.03 07:03:00 - [62] - Quote Any chance of an update on this CCP ? I want to play again , but won't risk burn in on my TV , surely this is one of the easiest problems to fix, so why taking so long , Even give us an update and timescale of when expect to fix this
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.07.03 10:37:00 - [63] - Quote Anyone from CCP want to give us some sort of update ? I won't stop asking until we get some answer on this ,
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:22:00 - [64] - Quote This thread is nearly 3 months old, nearly 2 months ago CCC Photon said problem has been noted for any future improvements to the HUD system, so why has it not been fixed by now ? this might not be high up in CCP list of priority s , but this is a big issue and should have been sorted by now. As this can cause long term problems for anyone playing on a plasma TV. Anyone who is playing on a plasma TV be very careful as image retention ,could turn to burn in playing this game for even short periods of time. But CCP don't seem to be worried about that, otherwise this would have been fixed by now
St Evilsbitch HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 104	Posted - 2013.07.04 01:32:00 - [65] - Quote Bumped this thread here, as it has been a problem for me since I started playing this game... on the E3 build.

CCP Photon C C P C C P Alliance 15	Posted - 2013.07.04 05:02:00 - [66] - Quote Here is an update: The requested HUD transparency feature has been planned and the work divided between 2 internal teams. Unfortunately this feature didn't make it into the latest release because of other critical fixes and feature work that was placed at a higher priority. However, we will endeavour to deliver it as soon as we can. CCP Photon

fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 41	Posted - 2013.07.04 06:15:00 - [67] - Quote Thanks for the response photon. Hopefully it makes 1.3, any lead on this being looked after is great. Unfortunately my plasma will never forget dust as I have burn in where the ammo and health can be found. Havent played dust on the plasma in 3 months. The radar was starting too, but I stopped playing on my plasma to avoid it. No other game has ever done this to my tv. I am still surprised no one at ccp noticed this from
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 7	Posted - 2013.07.04 07:10:00 - [68] - Quote Thank you Photon, sorry about all posts I kept making, but as I said from the start I was enjoying playing Dust, but this problem is stopping me playing properly,I don't like playing afk but I refuse to waste boosters I purchased , hopefully it's sorted soon Again thank you for update
St Evilsbitch HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 104	Posted - 2013.07.04 07:59:00 - [69] - Quote CCP Photon wrote: Here is an update: The requested HUD transparency feature has been planned and the work divided between 2 internal teams. Unfortunately this feature didn't make it into the latest release because of other critical fixes and feature work that was placed at a higher priority. However, we will endeavour to deliver it as soon as we can. CCP Photon Thank you for replying. Good to hear we will finally be able to resolve this problem.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 7	Posted - 2013.07.16 12:24:00 - [70] - Quote Come on , why hasn't this been fixed yet ? 2 teams to fix this and we still waiting, I know you have other problems aswell as this one, but surely this should have been sorted before now I'm close to just deleting this game, as it is unplayable for me , I just log on and play afk to use my boosters I have, if its taken this long to fix this , what hope we got for other issues in game, I've said before be careful when playing this game on a plasma tv, it can do long term damage image retention/ perm screen burn

fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. Top Men. 45	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:47:00 - [71] - Quote I have slight burn in now. Only played on that tv for 2 months havent since (4/5 months). A blueprint something could ease the pain :p. But all seriousness 1.3 will hopefully carry the fix.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 7	Posted - 2013.07.21 11:51:00 - [72] - Quote Bump Just to remind people with plasma TV's be careful this game can cause image retention or screen burn Why is it taken this long to put fix in place ?
Mitchman 514 BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 31	Posted - 2013.07.23 10:08:00 - [73] - Quote I value my Panasonic plasma too much to play DUST much these days.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.07.23 13:26:00 - [74] - Quote I'm no expert but they can update their store every week to sell items , but they can't make a simple change to the HUD, how hard can it be to make it transparent ? Even a temp fix that would allow us to play without doing damage to our TV's, I'm sure an adjustment could be made without disrupting the game to long, But sure they make money out of updating the store, so that gets priority!
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.07.23 21:03:00 - [75] - Quote It's a good job they have 2 teams working on this , otherwise it could take forever to fix Oh wait it is taking forever !
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.07.24 07:53:00 - [76] - Quote I've just seen the 1.3 patch notes, I didn't see any fix for this issue on there maybe I missed it, has this problem been ignored again? I hope not, might not be important to CCP but its a major problem for anyone playing on a plasma TV and Should have been fixed long before now,this game can and will cause screen burn or image retention if played more than 10 mins
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.07.26 18:14:00 - [77] - Quote I think these two teams have gone missing,or maybe this was just posted to make us think it was going to be fixed
HyperionsThunder Onslaught Initiative 22	Posted - 2013.07.29 21:14:00 - [78] - Quote apollo amor wrote: I think these two teams have gone missing,or maybe this was just posted to make us think it was going to be fixed Think it would violate the EULA if we tried to write a fix for this ourselves? I bet that would make em red in the face X-D "Hackers break into Dust 514 and rather than steal anything, they have improved the code!"
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.07.30 09:38:00 - [79] - Quote Will this be fixed in today's update ?
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 49	Posted - 2013.07.30 13:31:00 - [80] - Quote No.

apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.07.30 14:48:00 - [81] - Quote Nearly 4 months since this thread was started, and still waiting for what should be a simple fix to the HUD, what chance has this game got really when they can't make a simple adjustment to the HUD to stop screen burn / image retention to plasma TVs
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 49	Posted - 2013.07.30 22:32:00 - [82] - Quote CCP delivers but often slowly, it's a love/hate relationship.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.07.31 13:06:00 - [83] - Quote Why is it taking so long to put a simple fix in place? They not being asked to change anything major, it should be a slight adjustment to the HUD , surely these 2 teams should have managed this over past few months, how much longer do we have to wait , this is stopping me playing the game properly, instead I afk while I still have boosters left, sadly I was stupid to spend money on this game , I'm sure the adjustment needed could be done during 1 of the daily downtimes , so why isn't it being done ?
Mitchman 514 BetaMax Beta 31	Posted - 2013.08.02 10:24:00 - [84] - Quote I'm amazed they don't prioritize a bug that can cause damage to a very expensive physical item.
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 49	Posted - 2013.08.02 16:46:00 - [85] - Quote It's not technically a bug, but yeah :)
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.08.02 19:28:00 - [86] - Quote Maybe CCP should put a warning on this game for those with plasma tv's about the damage the HUD can cause, they are aware of the problem but have failed to do anything about it, least they can do is warn new players before they damage their TV's Guess its easier to ignore, and hope it goes away , 4 months on this thread and we still waiting,this is a sign of how things gonna be on here, can't see me hanging around much longer
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:30:00 - [87] - Quote So is CCP going to fix this anytime soon ?
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.08.06 19:48:00 - [88] - Quote Come on CCP get this sorted, I want to play this game properly instead of being afk just to use my boosters
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.08.09 21:12:00 - [89] - Quote Still waiting for this to be fixed
HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 28	Posted - 2013.08.10 14:46:00 - [90] - Quote Don't hold your breath :-(

Maffia- Thug 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 62	Posted - 2013.08.11 21:19:00 - [91] - Quote fixitgd wrote: Mine is not 3D but have heard the same things that they are less prone (should have spend the 150 more), have reverted to an old Hitachi 51 rear projection HD TV. Its goods to see they are looking into it. As far as the others trying to get the retention out, the best luck I have had is to run the pixel flipper on the Disney WoW dvd and not play on that tv till they lessen the brightness or come up with something to dull the white. Though I do like the HUD on this game my OCD wont allow me to play on that tv knowing it will be there. Its basically all gone and can only be noticed on a dull white back ground. As well, the black bars on the top and bottom aren't going to help the image retention either. I have faith it will all be fixed in the end thanks for responding PHOTON. Sir what is the Disney WoW? I would like to try that.
Maffia- Thug 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 62	Posted - 2013.08.11 21:25:00 - [92] - Quote Wow. I thought I was the only one with the problem. Glad I used the search feature. Well, first off. I believe I may have burn in. I cannot get the huds to go away even after several months. I really wish CCP would do something, I really love playing but I cannot because of this issue. I have to play on the bedroom tv which is uncomfortable and if my wife is playing then I cannot play, unless I want to subject my beautiful plasma to the harsh conditions of the hud. Even an option to remove it would be nice. The map and objective indicators are also a problem. We need to make it near transpearent or like I said, completely remove them.
fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 72	Posted - 2013.08.11 22:14:00 - [93] - Quote Maffia- Thug wrote: fixitgd wrote: Mine is not 3D but have heard the same things that they are less prone (should have spend the 150 more), have reverted to an old Hitachi 51 rear projection HD TV. Its goods to see they are looking into it. As far as the others trying to get the retention out, the best luck I have had is to run the pixel flipper on the Disney WoW dvd and not play on that tv till they lessen the brightness or come up with something to dull the white. Though I do like the HUD on this game my OCD wont allow me to play on that tv knowing it will be there. Its basically all gone and can only be noticed on a dull white back ground. As well, the black bars on the top and bottom aren't going to help the image retention either. I have faith it will all be fixed in the end thanks for responding PHOTON. Sir what is the Disney WoW? I would like to try that. Its a calibration disc. Can get them off ebay about $25
fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 72	Posted - 2013.08.11 22:30:00 - [94] - Quote Maffia- Thug wrote: fixitgd wrote: Mine is not 3D but have heard the same things that they are less prone (should have spend the 150 more), have reverted to an old Hitachi 51 rear projection HD TV. Its goods to see they are looking into it. As far as the others trying to get the retention out, the best luck I have had is to run the pixel flipper on the Disney WoW dvd and not play on that tv till they lessen the brightness or come up with something to dull the white. Though I do like the HUD on this game my OCD wont allow me to play on that tv knowing it will be there. Its basically all gone and can only be noticed on a dull white back ground. As well, the black bars on the top and bottom aren't going to help the image retention either. I have faith it will all be fixed in the end thanks for responding PHOTON. Sir what is the Disney WoW? I would like to try that. Its a calibration disc. Can get them off ebay about $25. It also has a pixel flipper and slides. Worked well on mine can barely notice it now while watching hockey.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.08.11 23:34:00 - [95] - Quote Maffia- Thug wrote: fixitgd wrote: Mine is not 3D but have heard the same things that they are less prone (should have spend the 150 more), have reverted to an old Hitachi 51 rear projection HD TV. Its goods to see they are looking into it. As far as the others trying to get the retention out, the best luck I have had is to run the pixel flipper on the Disney WoW dvd and not play on that tv till they lessen the brightness or come up with something to dull the white. Though I do like the HUD on this game my OCD wont allow me to play on that tv knowing it will be there. Its basically all gone and can only be noticed on a dull white back ground. As well, the black bars on the top and bottom aren't going to help the image retention either. I have faith it will all be fixed in the end thanks for responding PHOTON. Sir what is the Disney WoW? I would like to try that. You shouldn't have to do this, if CCP had fixed the HUD issue , I've said before this should have been fixed long before now, it's a major issue as it can do perm damage to ur plasma TV , they have known about this for at least 4 months but still seem to ignore Their game can and does cause image retention or screen burn ,so be warned as CCP don't seem to care about this, best way to play ATM is AFK .or just don't play at all
fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 72	Posted - 2013.08.12 00:08:00 - [96] - Quote apollo amor wrote: Maffia- Thug wrote: fixitgd wrote: Mine is not 3D but have heard the same things that they are less prone (should have spend the 150 more), have reverted to an old Hitachi 51 rear projection HD TV. Its goods to see they are looking into it. As far as the others trying to get the retention out, the best luck I have had is to run the pixel flipper on the Disney WoW dvd and not play on that tv till they lessen the brightness or come up with something to dull the white. Though I do like the HUD on this game my OCD wont allow me to play on that tv knowing it will be there. Its basically all gone and can only be noticed on a dull white back ground. As well, the black bars on the top and bottom aren't going to help the image retention either. I have faith it will all be fixed in the end thanks for responding PHOTON. Sir what is the Disney WoW? I would like to try that. You shouldn't have to do this, if CCP had fixed the HUD issue , I've said before this should have been fixed long before now, it's a major issue as it can do perm damage to ur plasma TV , they have known about this for at least 4 months but still seem to ignore Their game can and does cause image retention or screen burn ,so be warned as CCP don't seem to care about this, best way to play ATM is AFK .or just don't play at all Maybe I should post a link to this thread on CPM statement they want transparency, well this thread wants transparency to the HUD to allow us to play the game You are right. Hopefully it won't be another 4 months want to play on my tv again
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 49	Posted - 2013.08.12 02:37:00 - [97] - Quote I'm willing to take that bet.
fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 72	Posted - 2013.08.12 03:52:00 - [98] - Quote I dont feel like losing
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.08.12 19:52:00 - [99] - Quote CCP Photon wrote: Here is an update: The requested HUD transparency feature has been planned and the work divided between 2 internal teams. Unfortunately this feature didn't make it into the latest release because of other critical fixes and feature work that was placed at a higher priority. However, we will endeavour to deliver it as soon as we can. CCP Photon How much longer are we expected to wait for this fix ?
Maffia- Thug 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 62	Posted - 2013.08.12 23:57:00 - [100] - Quote fixitgd wrote: Maffia- Thug wrote: fixitgd wrote: Mine is not 3D but have heard the same things that they are less prone (should have spend the 150 more), have reverted to an old Hitachi 51 rear projection HD TV. Its goods to see they are looking into it. As far as the others trying to get the retention out, the best luck I have had is to run the pixel flipper on the Disney WoW dvd and not play on that tv till they lessen the brightness or come up with something to dull the white. Though I do like the HUD on this game my OCD wont allow me to play on that tv knowing it will be there. Its basically all gone and can only be noticed on a dull white back ground. As well, the black bars on the top and bottom aren't going to help the image retention either. I have faith it will all be fixed in the end thanks for responding PHOTON. Sir what is the Disney WoW? I would like to try that. Its a calibration disc. Can get them off ebay about $25. It also has a pixel flipper and slides. Worked well on mine can barely notice it now while watching hockey. I think I am going to grab this and see if it helps. I could probably run it overnight and should notice a difference. Thank you.

fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 72	Posted - 2013.08.13 00:43:00 - [101] - Quote You will notice a small one over night. I ran it for 30 hrs on the pixel flipper and never played dust on it again. It is very insignificant now. Good luck and let's go ccp. We only ask cause we like the game.
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 49	Posted - 2013.08.13 01:13:00 - [102] - Quote We only ask because we're evil trolls :)
Eklipsch Raven Accord Black Core Alliance 6	Posted - 2013.08.13 05:06:00 - [103] - Quote phakk wrote: My .02 isk... I'm running a 51 in. Samsung 3D capable plasma, and any IR I've had is very minimal. It does exist, but not to the extent I'm reading about here, and generally goes away in less than an hour after switching to video content. This TV is also hooked up to my gaming computer that runs the rest of the home systems. No windows OS burn in at all. Mostly gaming IR, like the Dust HUD. Got my vote for a transparency option as well. Just out of curiosity, are you Panny guys running 3D plasma sets? I've read elsewhere that 3D plasma sets are less likely to have issues, even if you're running a standard HD refresh rate.. can't remember why that was stated, or where I found that article tho. I have a newish Pani 3d plasma and there is some light retention after a steady hour, goes away fairly fast though. Back to back BF3 leaves a little burn to, but less than Dust. This Tv has a screen wipe and shuts itself off. Also movies dont burn that I've noticed.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.08.17 08:09:00 - [104] - Quote Bump This really needs sorted , we not asking for the HUD to be completely resigned, we just asking for a simple change to it so it stops screen burn on our TV's , so why is it taken this long without a fix put in place ?
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.08.18 10:18:00 - [105] - Quote What chance has this game got when they can't even put a simple fix in place after 4 months, doesn't look good for the future , I know this game has other issues but to ignore this one just doesn't make sense, I'm sure I'm not the only one its stopping from playing this game,surely this should have been given urgent attention, as it can damage its players base's plasma s TV's CCP knows this problems exists but still put off fixing it, they don't care if their game damages ours TVs ,so be warned if you play on plasma TV.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.08.21 19:30:00 - [106] - Quote Will this be fixed in 1.4 ? If not no point me hanging around any longer, think I've waited long enough So CCP please answer let us know one way or another .
Alex Smoke The Nommo Insurance Fraud. 55	Posted - 2013.08.23 17:16:00 - [107] - Quote Patch notes for 1.4: "Added HUD translucency option".
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.08.23 19:22:00 - [108] - Quote At last, can't wait so ill be able to play properly
HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 28	Posted - 2013.08.26 18:08:00 - [109] - Quote YAY!!!! Finally!
Maffia- Thug 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 62	Posted - 2013.09.03 15:39:00 - [110] - Quote It's live guys!!! I tested it. It is more transparent but, I think it needs more. Hard for me to tell though, as I already have a little IR already from before. By the way that WOW disc works awesome though, it did reduce it a large amount.

HyperionsThunder Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 29	Posted - 2013.09.04 03:03:00 - [111] - Quote FINALLY...(it's happened to me, right in front of my...Dust?)
The Robot Devil Echo Galactic Industries 893	Posted - 2013.09.04 03:42:00 - [112] - Quote Go OLED. Better than plasma and cost less to run. OLED has the same contrast ratio capabilities as plasma but the burn in is less severe. Electrical fatigue wears on all screens whom have element sized lights but the OLEDs show it less. More expensive but probably better life so it works out. Well, if you are paying to cool your room then they aren't that much cheaper. DLPs offer great pictures but they use bulbs that need replacing. Gotta love those mirrors.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.09.04 11:56:00 - [113] - Quote I played a game last night , yes it's a bit better but still not good enough , so looks like I won't be playing again until fixed properly, sadly I won't be playing while it can still cause screen burn, but it's a start so hopefully they will make it more transparent and do it soon, otherwise I'll be gone. Think we have waited long enough for this to be fixed properly

CCP Photon C C P C C P Alliance 18	Posted - 2013.09.06 06:45:00 - [114] - Quote As mentioned above, a HUD Tranlucency option was added in 1.4 - this new option is best used in combination with the other video options to get optimal results. CCP Photon

apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.09.06 07:26:00 - [115] - Quote I have made other adjustments to the settings, I've even turned brightness and contrast down on my tv to the extent that the picture is so dark making the game unplayable. I still have slight retention from 2 months ago it is fading but slowly , the new tranlucency option is a start but still not good enough to stop this happing again, so please look at this again It's taken 2 months for this to fade but not disappear completely , so I won't be playing until its fixed so this won't happen again
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2286	Posted - 2013.09.06 10:46:00 - [116] - Quote I'd like to add that I appreciate that time was put into this.
Maffia- Thug 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 67	Posted - 2013.09.06 16:15:00 - [117] - Quote CCP Photon wrote: As mentioned above, a HUD Tranlucency option was added in 1.4 - this new option is best used in combination with the other video options to get optimal results. CCP Photon In all due respect sir. I have adjusted my ingame options as well as my tv options. I die A LOT because my screen is so dark I cannot see the enemy. It would be nice if we had the option to make the HUD more transparent or......maybe an option to remove it all together. Or maybe even and option to change the colors of the HUD. <------That might be too much but at least let us have the option to remove it or make it near invisible. Kind of like the Aero on WIndows 7 taskbar.
Snaps Tremor Tritan's Onslaught 325	Posted - 2013.09.06 18:25:00 - [118] - Quote Thanks for adding this. Not sure why these guys are still complaining, though. For anyone with a plasma TV, just whack the new transparency option up as far as you can while still being able to read the display and that's all you need. It won't magically remove any existing retention, but if it's a decent TV that'll fade away over time and other content.
apollo amor Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.09.06 19:14:00 - [119] - Quote Snaps Tremor wrote: Thanks for adding this. Not sure why these guys are still complaining, though. For anyone with a plasma TV, just whack the new transparency option up as far as you can while still being able to read the display and that's all you need. It won't magically remove any existing retention, but if it's a decent TV that'll fade away over time and other content. i have done this,and sadly its still not enough,i dont expect it to fix the existing retention that this game has already caused,but i do expect it to cut down the risk of it happening again but it doesnt i have tried, im complaining because i want to be able to play this game without doing damage to my expensive plasma TV which is a decent one btw, but the retention that has been caused over 2 months ago is still there,yes it is fading ,this is with running the scrolling bar over night on a lot of occasions,and also running slides, so if this is best we going to get then ,thank you CCP for the effort,but ill pass on this game.
Dominus Fatali Nox Aeterna Security 124	Posted - 2013.09.06 21:43:00 - [120] - Quote Incidentally, 100 Transparency does not eliminate the HUD as I though it might.

fixitgd S.e.V.e.N. 72	Posted - 2013.09.06 23:37:00 - [121] - Quote Worked for myself, the transparency option is great. But once there is burn in even slight. There will always be burn in.


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