hi, just going to say me and a buddy just installed and started playing your game, and needless to say, we will not be playing any farther.

the 2 hours mentioned were boots on the ground on the fight time, not total time.



from the get go, we understood that you could pay to enhance your experience, however little did we know how little you could accomplish with the given equipment, in less then an hour we had a decent handle on the controls and feel of the game however we continued to come up short on our firefights, even when we had 2 on 1's in nearly every match we played we seen players with much higher experience and vastly superior weapons, everyone, not just a few, i mean everyone had "named" versions of guns, and you could see grenades being far different as well, constantly we encountered matches where we all got steamrolled and were almost always unable to simply provide any challenge or fight back in any frame or sort of the word, it was a slaughter fest with our meat on the menu, so after a few matches like that we decided we needed to look at new weapons and skills, so we took the time to have a very good look around the store in game, (load times were atrocious) and tried a few new weapons, (p*ss poor descriptions by the way) and built our own custom dropkits with enough guns to last an entire match, and again, mowed down... apparently the guns we got were just as bad because we did not have the skill points enough to get the "good" ones, so we thought "lets get into tanks or better yet, the flying things"

oh how we were mislead by those intro cutscenes....

when the vehicle section finally loaded, we looked blankly at the pricing of even some of the lower tier flyers and tanks, it's no wonder why you rarely see these on the battlefield, the "drivers license" for any of them costed 3 times the amount even to get a single unit on the field never mind a replacement for the one that gets taken out in the first 3 seconds trying to figure out how it works, both of us thought the same thing;


"what the hell, what is going to make us want to play this game for the time it takes to get anything half decent if we can't enjoy the first 2 hours of gaming?


why would we spend a week in anger trying to work up enough SP and cash dieing constantly to play in one dropship in one game for less then a quarter of the match? "


why do we, simply never have equal footing?


why even keep trying? XP system is crappy, guns are trash, and any vehicles worth their coin is out of reach...

so we came to the conclusion: this game is not fun.

Then you should play Call of Duty. This game is hard for a reason. Ever tried playing Eve?

Well said sir. It's obvious to me that we need "starter" games, with gear restricted. People will then leave these games in their own time. I can't imagine how hard this game will be to pick up in 2 years time.

For Dusts continued growth, this issue has to be addressed.

Then you should play Call of Duty. This game is hard for a reason. Ever tried playing Eve?

lol lost my 1 bill ship to a lagg spike yes EVE is hard but it's not impossible.

demon souls is hard, this game is nothing like that, when you need a mag and a half to kill a man when they only need a burst, there is something glaringly wrong there, and no i have never played EVE, i was told this was a new way to check out the experience, and everything i've seen so far seems very very bad, and you sir, are out of line mentioning that awful game.

Honestly, you'll need to grind for about 3 weeks.

Did you TRY squadding with those same guys with 5 mil+ SP? You probably won't die so much.

how could i? nobody in the lobbys chat, and nobody in game does anything else but run and gun, of course i did TRY squadding with more people then my one buddy, but you obviously seem to think i'm an imbecile, and can't think of anyway to try and improve any resemblance of a decent time with a game you can't get enough of.

You don't join a corp, did you. ...Join a corp.

how could i? nobody in the lobbys chat, and nobody in game does anything else but run and gun, of course i did TRY squadding with more people then my one buddy, but you obviously seem to think i'm an imbecile, and can't think of anyway to try and improve any resemblance of a decent time with a game you can't get enough of.

To join a corp you have to want to play the game. As the OP states, after 2 hours, most players are like "wtf is this rubbish?"
Multiple YouTube "reviews" prove this point of view. Even if you join a corp, they might not even be good, and then you're stuck with terribads game after game.

Really, we need the training/farming area.

OP has it right and also wrong :
Help us, you are a new customer. Let CCP know you troubles in a polite and balanced way. .

Buh, Bye Kitten.

Enjoy Angry Birds.

OP has it right and also wrong :

stuff a duck greefer, esad, you are killing the game. come over to MWO and i'll make you eat those words.

Don't be a try hard, just play smart.


HTFU (Harden The **** Up) & good luck.

why the hell would i enjoy getting stomped for three weeks? what would make me come back and say: " i feel like dieing 100 times in a row with nothing i can do about it" ?

as it stands right now, this game is absolutely trash, how can i ever even begin to grind anywhere near that much skill when everyone and their dog has 5 million skillpoints higher then i do, and are the only ones playing the game?

i would look like one of the dairy cows walking to get my head sliced off, over and over, you stating the fact that if you were to loose your advantage you would be angry, well news flash, nearly all players have an advantage over newcomers so far it's impossible to enjoy what this game could offer.

Okay, let me elaborate on my response. I've been playing for about 3 months and I have a little over 5 million SP- most of it is in tanks. For the most part, there aren't too many other tankers that can go toe-to-toe with me and live. However, there are still a good handful of guys with more than 8 million SP in tanks that I will never catch up with. The idea that my hard won advantage will be taken away is terrifying. Honestly, you'll need to grind for about 3 weeks and then you canstart to field your proto gear and own the noobs, yourself. Until then, join a big, organized corp that welcomes newer players (PRO, KEQ, STB, etc.) Remember, yesterdays noobs are the guys that just went 25/0 in a pub stomp.

The community DOES want a training environment, it's just not top of CCPs priority list. It should be, and you should gain active SP for training.
Noob problem = fixed
AFK farming = fixed