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Tarquin Markel
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:42:00 -
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*sigh*
Look, man: the reason I know sidearms are freaking deadly when used right is because the SMG is already my primary weapon half the time.
My second-most-commonly used fit is a mixed-media stealth troublemaker. It involves a sniper rifle for counter-sniping and picking off targets of opportunity, AV grenades for ambushing LAV's, remote explosives for setting booby traps (I look forward to the day people start consistently spotting those at objectives so that I have to get more creative with them), and an SMG for close combat.
It works. It works much better in Skirmish than in Ambush, but that just means I use an assault suit for Ambush.
You can sneer at me for James Bonding it up all you like, but I will happily trade that sniper rifle in for the sake of being invisible when motionless and less-visible when moving, and I will count it as a major plus if that doesn't take the skill out of the thing. |
Son Down
SamsClub
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:48:00 -
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Yeah...cloaking....hope we never see that. Sounds scrubby as hell. |
Wrath Red-Feather
Foxhound Corporation
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:19:00 -
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To the ppl who say cloaking doesn't belong in an fps I laugh. Kill zone 3 pulled it off well, as did halo. Both pretty main stream games. Also didn't break them. |
Son Down
SamsClub
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Posted - 2013.04.10 19:21:00 -
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Wrath Red-Feather wrote:To the ppl who say cloaking doesn't belong in an fps I laugh. Kill zone 3 pulled it off well, as did halo. Both pretty main stream games. Also didn't break them.
Both of those games's target audience don't have pubes. |
Italian dude 93
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.04.11 01:05:00 -
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I think the only class that should get cloaking is the scout. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.04.11 01:54:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:A good cloaking device should have a long cool-down time, not work with sprinting and have a short duration - say, under ten seconds when skill is fully maxed. Even then, this level of tactical advantage is gonna hurt FPS mechanics. If ppl rage about red line snipers and tanks now, imagine what cloaking is gonna bring to the game. FPS should be about competitive shooting, not dirty tricks imo. No, just no. You are wrong on so many levels.
Do indulge and elaborate or don't post meaningless stuff. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2441
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Posted - 2013.04.11 02:39:00 -
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Yani Nabari wrote:The problem isn't that it's a niche role, it's that the niche isn't useful with the current game settings.
The cqc assassin is about as useful as the knifing heavy or a sniper specializing in 30m or shorter sniping (with a charged sniper rifle).
the James Bond stealth duelist would be good for little beyond laughs in any serious play. If the CQC Assassin is useless, then you've obviously never met any of the good ones.
I'm not as good as some, but even I can make the role work. It isn't well-suited to every situation or to every map, but with squad support, flanking or hitting form behind is AWESOME. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2013.04.11 03:03:00 -
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i got of reading around the 3rd page so if someone mentioned this im in agreence with you, but i read a lot of criticism about cloaks which lead me to believe CCP is in the process of making a insta-win item; however when i read the dev blog (or heard an interview one of the two) the way they were hoping to balance it seemed fair enough to work.
cloak takes up a equipment slot- as it should since it is a piace of equipment
scan precision still taken into play - so if your not light on your feet your still gonna glow like a christmas tree
getting hit or fireing while cloaked deactivates cloak - like every other game that has it
honestly these things make claking ok for me ,but if your still not convinced take a look at crysis 3 opeen beta. you cloak but if you ever pay atention you can still see the outlines of your enemy. So i imagine that Dust's cloak will be along that side. I see come cloaks being used to help snipers escape after theyve been discovered, aid ninja knifers traverse a battlefield (which they clearly have a disadvantage in), or help a logibro pick up his downed friend which the reds left accross the map.
sorry did this on my vita so couldnt really link source or make bullets. |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
143
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Posted - 2013.04.11 03:12:00 -
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Counter to cloak = Mass driver.... |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.11 17:04:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I can't wait for cloaking so I can finally become a full on infiltrator. Nothing like sneaking behind enemy lines, quickly hacking an objective, and then flanking the idiots engaging my squad (lol distractions). Your such a loser lol This is so ironic. Isn't it Ironic... don't you thinkBTW I think you should apply to Imperfects... 6th time is the charm I know I've succeded in pissing you off when you resort to bringing up something that never happened in the past. Nice try though.
I heard betamax was a cool corp before all the good people left. Wait aren't you still in betamax? |
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
149
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Posted - 2013.04.16 00:43:00 -
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EnIgMa99 wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:
I heard betamax was a cool corp before all the good people left. Wait aren't you still in betamax?
Jeez, you ppl are petty. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
143
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Posted - 2013.04.16 00:58:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:A good cloaking device should have a long cool-down time, not work with sprinting and have a short duration - say, under ten seconds when skill is fully maxed. Even then, this level of tactical advantage is gonna hurt FPS mechanics. If ppl rage about red line snipers and tanks now, imagine what cloaking is gonna bring to the game. FPS should be about competitive shooting, not dirty tricks imo. this isn't a shooting range, there are plenty of "dirty tricks" already in the besides the very few you listed, so go bugger off and play some civil war games those are all about shooting ranges. |
Skyhound Solbrave
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:08:00 -
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They should just do cloaking like Crysis 3 does it. It's not gamebreaking or scrubby at all. If anything, its the only answer for being redlined. Some maps are super difficult to get past a redline assault. A cloaked scout would be a good answer to that. I honestly doubt it would be anymore than a fitting a current scout would use for that very situation.
It should have a high CPU/PG cost to it. It should also either replace the stamina gauge with a battery so no sprinting, or it should spend the stamina gauge so springing + cloaking will dry up the gauge pretty fast. Shooting your weapon while cloaked should completely drain the gauge, maybe nova knives can be exempt from that. There should be a distinct cloak/decloak sound and there should be the signature warping of the environment caused by the cloak and possibly even a red/blue outline around the cloaked dropsuit. It also shouldn't effect scan profile, just a visual thing since already have a way to be near invisible to radar. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:19:00 -
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They can content stream it no problem - just like they did with whole freakin' caldari prime map. |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:41:00 -
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Being a Logibro's going to be even more expensive. If cloaking ever comes out, best believe that Shotgun scout is coming for you first. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
144
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:47:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Being a Logibro's going to be even more expensive. If cloaking ever comes out, best believe that Shotgun scout is coming for you first. last... most view the logi as the least combat effective |
Yani Nabari
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
29
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:58:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Being a Logibro's going to be even more expensive. If cloaking ever comes out, best believe that Shotgun scout is coming for you first. last... most view the logi as the least combat effective
don't forget some logi's tend to forget to save rezzing for AFTER enemies are neutralized.
Saving Logi's for the end could net a few more WP. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
141
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Posted - 2013.04.16 03:01:00 -
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You think you're getting content in a CCP expansion? oh ho ho ho ho, he he, ha ha.
Cuteness.
I am looking forward to the new grass, though. |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.04.16 03:36:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Being a Logibro's going to be even more expensive. If cloaking ever comes out, best believe that Shotgun scout is coming for you first. last... most view the logi as the least combat effective
The Logi will revive anyone you kill if you don't get him first. And how is the Logibro the least combat effective? Lack of side-arm only applies if you catch a Logi off guard/the Logi can't aim. 9/10 the fight will be over long before the Logi needs to reload. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
144
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Posted - 2013.04.16 03:48:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:ladwar wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Being a Logibro's going to be even more expensive. If cloaking ever comes out, best believe that Shotgun scout is coming for you first. last... most view the logi as the least combat effective The Logi will revive anyone you kill if you don't get him first. And how is the Logibro the least combat effective? Lack of side-arm only applies if you catch a Logi off guard with half of his ammo supply/the Logi can't aim. 9/10 the fight will be over long before the Logi needs to reload. that just adds to more kills for me so i can warpoint hoard from the logi as he revives them into the daze of shotgun madness!!! btw SMG owns at short range so if he has one i'll kill him first otherwise i'll kill the others first. |
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Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.04.16 04:16:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:ladwar wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Being a Logibro's going to be even more expensive. If cloaking ever comes out, best believe that Shotgun scout is coming for you first. last... most view the logi as the least combat effective The Logi will revive anyone you kill if you don't get him first. And how is the Logibro the least combat effective? Lack of side-arm only applies if you catch a Logi off guard with half of his ammo supply/the Logi can't aim. 9/10 the fight will be over long before the Logi needs to reload. that just adds to more kills for me so i can warpoint hoard from the logi as he revives them into the daze of shotgun madness!!! btw SMG owns at short range so if he has one i'll kill him first otherwise i'll kill the others first.
Lol MD Logi 2 shots scouts, and good Logibros will kill you before they revive. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
144
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Posted - 2013.04.16 04:59:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:ladwar wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:ladwar wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Being a Logibro's going to be even more expensive. If cloaking ever comes out, best believe that Shotgun scout is coming for you first. last... most view the logi as the least combat effective The Logi will revive anyone you kill if you don't get him first. And how is the Logibro the least combat effective? Lack of side-arm only applies if you catch a Logi off guard with half of his ammo supply/the Logi can't aim. 9/10 the fight will be over long before the Logi needs to reload. that just adds to more kills for me so i can warpoint hoard from the logi as he revives them into the daze of shotgun madness!!! btw SMG owns at short range so if he has one i'll kill him first otherwise i'll kill the others first. Lol MD Logi 2 shots scouts, and good Logibros will kill you before they revive. good logi are pretty rare, its like finding a gunner who doesn't waste the first 3minutes shooting at the MCC. i would say chance are 1 in 75,000 |
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